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Post by colin on Nov 16, 2024 8:54:49 GMT
"“But I have found it disappointing that some members of the cabinet have spoken out very vocally on the issue, and others have done as instructed and not expressed their views. I’ve found that quite disappointing and quite upsetting.”
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It won't be long Wes before they tell you to stop repeating stuff from the Daily Mail
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Post by pete on Nov 16, 2024 8:55:01 GMT
Sounds like the right's obsession with trans issues continues on here. Live & let live, and let's leave the terribly minor issues that are only designed to inflame behind. Men have been dressing up as women and vice versa for as long as history. Who really gives a f***? Let's get on with the important stuff, and let people be whoever they wish to be. It's one giant yawn for man/womankind. Well put. We all sit somewhere on a scale, and what a dull place it would be otherwise! You 2 pair of freaks can speak for yourselves. disgraceful attitude you both have. Anyway I'm saying no more on the subject as I'm off to town to buy a dres *cough* Sorry .I mean some really hard man looking combat trousers |
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Post by Danny on Nov 16, 2024 9:07:23 GMT
Can only see 4 of the 10 by elections so far with 4 Labour holds and mostly smaller drops in their support than they have been getting recently. Two in London where their vote share was down a tiny amount. Not so good outside of London and this one was close: Election Maps UK @electionmapsuk The Nedge (Telford & Wrekin) Council By-Election Result: 🌹 LAB: 33.8% (-20.6) 🌳 CON: 33.0% (+7.0) ➡️ RFM: 22.7% (New) 🌍 GRN: 4.5% (New) 🙋 IND: 3.2% (-6.6) 🔶 LDM: 2.8% (-7.0) So that was a formerly strong labour seat on 54%, with a con challenger on 26% plus a lib on 10% and an independant on 10%. Presumably not a labour inclined independant or they wouldnt be challenging the incumbent?. Con raised their vote share and nearly beat lab, but the real winner was reform. That sort of showing could see them win some parliamentary elections if matters are the same in 4 years time. Also shows people dont look upon con as the obvious alternative. You could view this as the lib vote collapsing and going home to con, but lab losing a chunk of traditional supporters to reform. While that is unlikely to be what happened, labor maybe ought to think of it like that and consider a strategy to stop reform stealing their disaffected working class vote. Lots of evidence of that happening. Im not sure what greens stand for. And some debate about what they do support is either inconsistent or not relevant to the big issues like EU membership and immigration. |
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Post by neilj on Nov 16, 2024 9:17:50 GMT
Blusky still gaining lots of users, another million in the last 24 hours, now at 17.5 million
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Post by Danny on Nov 16, 2024 9:17:52 GMT
The article had some questionable statistics, ie asserting a particular candidate had better policies because they performed 5% better than average, whereas it isnt obvious they maybe just had a constituency naturally a bit more dem than average. However assuming their success was real, they seem to have achieved it by adopting trumpian policies themselves. They criticised typical liberal middle class values, just as Trump, but which is maybe the core of remaining democrat support. labour has exactly the same problem, lab and dem have both abandoned the traditional working class which used to vote for them. |
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Post by Danny on Nov 16, 2024 9:19:31 GMT
Anyway I'm saying no more on the subject as I'm off to town to buy a dres *cough* Sorry .I mean some really hard man looking combat trousers Ah, trying to attract the gay gaze? |
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Post by colin on Nov 16, 2024 9:24:38 GMT
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Post by Danny on Nov 16, 2024 9:32:20 GMT
.. But hospitality has been hit repeatedly with rising rents, energy prices, food prices etc… which means having to raise prices, And no other industry has? How does that merit special treatment? Well not when there are sharp increases in minimum wage. The labour budget is starting to look much more well thought out than its critics claim. Their problem is probably that there is a goal behind the budget to raise wages, increase wealth redistribution and close the income gap between rich and poor. Which obviously in anathema to conservatives. |
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Post by birdseye on Nov 16, 2024 9:36:38 GMT
The article had some questionable statistics, ie asserting a particular candidate had better policies because they performed 5% better than average, whereas it isnt obvious they maybe just had a constituency naturally a bit more dem than average. However assuming their success was real, they seem to have achieved it by adopting trumpian policies themselves. They criticised typical liberal middle class values, just as Trump, but which is maybe the core of remaining democrat support. labour has exactly the same problem, lab and dem have both abandoned the traditional working class which used to vote for them. True. Champagne Socialist might be a derogatory description but it hides a lot of truth. As Orwell described in Animal Farm, control of the Labour and Union movements has fallen often to the educated middle class, many with public school education and little understanding of the real lives of people at the bottom of the heap. Hence episodes like the White Van Man , and Bigot comments. And Blair allowing uncontrolled E European immigration to damage the job prospects of blue collar workers . Leaving aside areas like academia, and the law, many Labour voters are essentially conservative with a small c and their views on subjects such as immigration dont necesarily gel with a liberal elite running Labour in the UK or the Democrats in the US. The old style right / left division in politics no longer really applies |
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Post by birdseye on Nov 16, 2024 9:45:47 GMT
National self interest rules as always in the EU. The German manufacturing industries are suffering from the loss of business in Russia and their government is happy to dump the Ukraine if doing so will shift more German cars in Moscow. The French for their part are worried about their agricultural lobbies and even if the agreement gets passed, will sabotage its implementation in France as they have done before now. "Free Trade" as envisioned by the liberal left rarely if ever exists and neither does trade solidarity. |
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Post by Danny on Nov 16, 2024 9:49:49 GMT
whilst I'm in favour of closing tax loopholes for those very rich who buy land/farms as a way of minimising tax, I would not want to see genuine family farms who are under pressure from purchasers/supermarkets who have the upper hand unduly penalised. I think Farmers and farm labourers should be considered as essential workers in the same way as we characterise Health Workers, Firefighters , The Police etc. But we dont give those others tax breaks? So farmers should get early retirement? I'm not actually convinced about that, the issue with police and firemen is presumaby that they may be in extreme situations where being fit might mean the difference between life and death or serious injury. While farm work does need strength, its largely mechanised and theres plenty of scope for experience to be as much use as strength. The issue seems to be about farmers NOT wanting to retire and pass on the farm. All of which seem why people arent very keen to become farmers, and its increasingly unlikely a farmers chldren will actually want to take on the farm. Whereas its more likely new people will come from the general non-farming population, who are just inclined to an outdoors life. So then the problem is how to match people to farms. But there are colleges which specialise in teaching agriculture, and have long been. My father went to one. |
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Post by Danny on Nov 16, 2024 9:58:36 GMT
And Blair allowing uncontrolled E European immigration to damage the job prospects of blue collar workers . Um. Poland was the biggest of the new accession states, significantly outnumbering in population all the others put together. Although there was no formal arrangement for Poles to be allowed to work in the Uk pre accession, they were granted long visas and no one was tracking what they did. So in reality thousands of them were already here working (illegally) in the Uk before accession. The calculation in government was likely that it was better to have them here legally than illegally. In part this blind eye to Poles seems to have reflected support for the country as a breakaway from the USSR, and as a repayment of the historic debt allowing Russia to seize Poland after Ww2. |
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Post by colin on Nov 16, 2024 10:01:53 GMT
National self interest rules as always in the EU. The German manufacturing industries are suffering from the loss of business in Russia and their government is happy to dump the Ukraine if doing so will shift more German cars in Moscow. The French for their part are worried about their agricultural lobbies and even if the agreement gets passed, will sabotage its implementation in France as they have done before now. "Free Trade" as envisioned by the liberal left rarely if ever exists and neither does trade solidarity. The German situation is extraordinary and according to this book the result of some really long standing luddite attitudes:- www.thetimes.com/culture/books/article/kaput-end-german-miracle-wolfgang-munchau-review-52gfdlvxwI think the idea of a FTA for 20+ counbtries with different languages retaining fiscal sovereignty and many national laws and regulations is fraught with problems. |
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Post by Danny on Nov 16, 2024 10:15:31 GMT
I think the idea of a FTA for 20+ counbtries with different languages retaining fiscal sovereignty and many national laws and regulations is fraught with problems. But the dangers for a small single language state are even worse. Even for a medium sized developed state like the UK. Which also itself extolls the benefits of small countries uniting despite not having common languages. |
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Post by steve on Nov 16, 2024 12:02:58 GMT
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I suppose it's conceivable a school could allocate a room for a schools liaison officer, but given that the schools only open around 8 hours a day five days a week for around 38 weeks a year there won't be a full time assignment, even if the officer did nothing else.
Mind you sounds like a doss I would have loved 12 weeks annual leave and every weekend off.
I think your contact might be confusing space allocated and staff allocation.
There have been fairly recent moves towards " job shares" in the police this is particularly helpful if the officer has young children .
Its conceivable that a "part time " officer could be assigned to a post in a school but can't say I've ever heard of it happening.
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Post by steve on Nov 16, 2024 12:59:59 GMT
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Post by neilj on Nov 16, 2024 13:16:24 GMT
I am having trouble to replying to posts
Can only reply to a new post, otherwise I just get a box asking me to report the post
Has anyone else had this problem and or possible solutions?
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Post by steve on Nov 16, 2024 13:19:27 GMT
Gareth Wyn Jones has just been on Sky news bemoaning the lot of small farmers as a result of iht changes implying he's one of them.
Just as a fact check Mr Jones earns millions from his YouTube activities and other media outlets has a net worth estimated at £25'million and farms over 2000 acres with access to 27000 more, with 4000+ sheep.
His family have owned estates in Wales for 375 years.
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Post by neilj on Nov 16, 2024 13:32:00 GMT
Okay I deleted all cookies, logged out and back in again, but still can only respond to new posts Not sure what the answer is, doesn't happen on other sites I'm on |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 16, 2024 14:09:48 GMT
neilj Think it's just you Okay I deleted all cookies, logged out and back in again, but still can only respond to new posts Not sure what the answer is, doesn't happen on other sites I'm on It’s not so bad, at least people can still report your posts Neil, which is the main thing 👍 |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 16, 2024 14:16:14 GMT
.. But hospitality has been hit repeatedly with rising rents, energy prices, food prices etc… which means having to raise prices, And no other industry has? How does that merit special treatment? Well not when there are sharp increases in minimum wage. The labour budget is starting to look much more well thought out than its critics claim. Their problem is probably that there is a goal behind the budget to raise wages, increase wealth redistribution and close the income gap between rich and poor. Which obviously in anathema to conservatives. Yes, lots of business has had insane economic policy thrust upon them, with insane rents and energy prices etc., so yes maybe some other business might be due some respite too. It’s not just about business surviving but also people being able to socialise more, more cheaply. Loneliness epidemic etc. But there might be some seiectivity, where you might favour some things over others. So that a café doesn’t have to be turned into a betting shop or maybe result in premises being left idle. And an increase in the minimum wage doesn’t solve the costs problem as if other costs are too much as they may just ditch jobs or even close the business but we know you know that |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 16, 2024 14:26:12 GMT
I saw that yesterday and thought of posting it for the board but then we had a meal out and I forgot. Maybe this will make it up: (I don’t think leafleting is one of the ten things 👎👎) Attachments:
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 16, 2024 15:02:45 GMT
Rock & Hard Place :- "Stephen Moore, who is supporting Trump as he prepares for government, said the president-elect had a mandate to push ahead with tariffs and was likely to do so in an effort to bolster American industry and create more jobs. Speaking from Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s residence in Palm Beach, Florida, Moore said the US would be “less interested” in a free trade deal with the UK if it moved into closer alignment with the European Union." Times Presumably the EU would similarly be less interested in a trade deal with the Uk if it moved to closer alignment to the US. But we are going for growth under Starmer and if we also continue high immigration levels we can greatly grow our economy and become an attractive economic prize that will cause a bidding war over us. (Possibly not in this universe though) |
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Post by neilj on Nov 16, 2024 15:17:02 GMT
I'm back, had to use bing instead of chrome, but now working, so much to post 😀
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Post by neilj on Nov 16, 2024 15:42:30 GMT
In a push to open Argentina’s economy,
Milei is cutting import taxes to give consumers access to more affordable goods
Musk says this is a good move, not sure he's even aware of Trump's plan to put 20% duty on all imports or if he is he doesn't believe him
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 16, 2024 15:51:11 GMT
Yes, this is one of the things I wanted to flag up. That the next step is to see that some of the illness you might put down to Covid, might be due to the vaccine.
For example, something else I added for you a year ago, was the possible link with long Covid. How could the vaccine trigger long Covid one might ask? One idea is that the body is supposed to stop making spike protein a few weeks after taking the vaccine. But in some people, they may not stop making spike protein… But covid spike protein only mimicks human cell spike protein Particularly if you take the blue pill |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 16, 2024 15:53:00 GMT
In a push to open Argentina’s economy, Milei is cutting import taxes to give consumers access to more affordable goods Musk says this is a good move, not sure he's even aware of Trump's plan to put 20% duty on all imports or if he is he doesn't believe him Musk is planning to live on Mars tho’, where Trump doesn’t set the tariffs |
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