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Post by Danny on Jun 13, 2024 9:01:53 GMT
I suspect or at least hope the refuker max is around 20% which might win them 5 seats. However as their fuhrer refuses to be held to personal account and the legacy media aren't prepared to call out this traitors links with the Putin regime and Trump cult robustly , if at all , those who vote for his party, overwhelmingly because they intrinsically don't like foreigners, or thinking, won't actually have a diddly about what they are voting for. Hmm. Im not convinced farage is a russian plant so much as someone coming from nowhere has to accept support where he can. Even though I seem to remember the conservatives had to quietly disband its own 'friends of Russia' group, Farage certainly wants no good for the conservatives as no doubt nor does Putin. Its again rather reminiscent of the situation before ww1 where there were several countries all vying for greater power who had temporary alliances subject to change. And again someone recently branding Dennis healey as a communist presumably because he liked their conceptual ideas and joined the communist part pre ww2, but then seems to have spent the rest of his life fighting the totalitarian way the Russian regime put this into practice. Its always been something of an irony that the US has been more true to the spirit of communism than russia. Was just listening to the Guardian analysis of the latest debate, and what i come away with is that fundamentally either politicians lie, or they have such bad memories they cannot remember what they said yeasterday, never mind a year ago. Thatcher made the concept of a U turn anathema, whereas obviously U turns may make sense. As an example, doctors used to recommend smoking to improve your health. So it makes perfect sense for a politicians to say we used to think x, but now we think Y. But some things are just too fundamental, its impossible to believe our now retiring local MP used to believe being in the EU was right, but then because of the referendum result he suddenly changed his mind. He might have accepted it, its impossible to believe he suddenly thinks its right and yet he switched to saying it was (and became a minister). Sunak claims he was sorry for leaving the D-Day ceremony, and I'm sure he is, but not because he now thinks it was important to be there, but because he now realises it looked bad. I dont think farage is a traitor. He is an outsider. If he really is a paid russian spy, that ought to be ferreted out and publicised. But as an independant voice, there should be a way he could have got a few MPs in parliament. Brexit might have been avoided if he had because then the leave vote would not have been conflated with the tribal tory europhile vote. It would have been good for politics for him to be able to call out con and lab as liars withing the chamber of the commons by stating clearly their absolute record of seeking higher immigration not lower as they pretend. Better for all these issues to have been aired than allowed to fester. I suspect macron thinks the same. Farage is willing to say things lab and con will not because they are both guilty of them. neither wants to end immigration. Neither is willing to come clean on how the Uk government budget is not balance, has not been balanced since 2008 and neither has a clue how to fix it. (though its obvious con have dismally failed, whereas last time of office lab were doing pretty well allowing they never had a chance to try to fix it post the 2008 world banking recession) |
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Post by wb61 on Jun 13, 2024 9:02:05 GMT
Sunak cannot catch a break:
yesterday stagnant growth, today
"Hospital waiting list figure for England rises for first time in 7 months, to 7.57m, figures show"
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Post by crossbat11 on Jun 13, 2024 9:06:23 GMT
If you want to get a different perspective on last night's Grimsby event try the Guardian podcast. I don't mean to defend the perfidious Guardian but I didn't see the this 'broken man' others are seeing. Some of the questioners seemed to have very anti-Tory agenda, so I think there was a bit of resignation that they weren't really interested in his answer but when he was talking to the young lad at the end he seemed to have a better connection. I didn't see all of it though, just clips and some of Sunak's questions live. Starmer was a bit hesitant but who wouldn't be. Maybe I had low expectations. I'm like you a bit here, and going on a mixture of received wisdom, anecdotal feedback and edited highlights in terms of judging Sunak's performance, but I think the caveat we should consider here is how difficult it is to differentiate between performance and inner state of mind. The two can be inextricably dependent on each other, but not always. Politicians are often actors, and consummate ones too in many cases. I don't think Sunak will throw in the towel in terms of battling on and seeing out the full campaigning gig. He'll have good days and bad ones but I thought I saw evidence last night, particularly in the Rigby set piece interview, that the inner light was fading. Flickering, but no longer glowing. Imperceptibly almost, but I think I saw it in the bits I've watched. Of course, being the performer and actor he essentially is, the tiggerish bounce and presentational skills returned a bit during the audience questions, but I wasn't convinced it was more than a resort to a core skill and a going through of the motions. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2024 9:06:58 GMT
Election Maps UK @electionmapsuk Westminster Voting Intention: LAB: 39% (-7) CON: 19% (-1) RFM: 17% (+3) LDM: 10% (+2) Via @peoplepolling , 11-12 Jun. Changes w/ 16 May. Do you (or anyone else) by any chance know if Election Maps have altered their methodology recently? If not, that's a chunky old reduction in LAB VI, along with several others recently. At least CON don't seem to be benefiting. |
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Post by Danny on Jun 13, 2024 9:07:13 GMT
Bringing back Cameron was a pretty panicy start TBH Probably best leader they have had in the recent spate of them to try to look competent. And those between Major and cameron were also disastrous. Cameron has that upper class self confidence that he deserves his position and you should automatically obey. Sunak always looks like he cant quite believe he blagged his way in. |
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Post by leftieliberal on Jun 13, 2024 9:10:38 GMT
A good article about MRP polling in The ConversationThis is the election of MRP polls – but what are they and why are they showing such different results? The author concludes with: The limitations of MRPs
As statistical models, MRPs have limitations and need careful interpretation. They are based on probabilities and therefore produce a range of possible outcomes. While a central estimate of each party’s representation is reported, there is a margin of error around each of these.
There are also factors MRPs cannot take into account. Some constituency results will be influenced by locally specific issues that statistical models can’t capture. For example, adjustments cannot be made for who the candidates are in each constituency and whether any have a profile that could enhance, or detract from, their party’s chance of winning. Think Nigel Farage standing for Reform UK in Clacton.
And competing MRPs produce contrasting outcomes because each model uses specific assumptions and data. Different inputs produce different outputs. This election has seen more MRPs produced than ever before, and from various organisations. In the early hours of July 5, we’ll know which one came closest to getting the result correct.Think of Electoral Calculus and their 90% confidence interval which they call "high seats" and "low seats" in their monthly GE prediction based on poll of polls. The confidence intervals of the various MRP pollsters don't usually get published and this gives an artificial sense of certainty in them. |
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Post by neilj on Jun 13, 2024 9:14:26 GMT
Election Maps UK @electionmapsuk Westminster Voting Intention: LAB: 39% (-7) CON: 19% (-1) RFM: 17% (+3) LDM: 10% (+2) Via @peoplepolling , 11-12 Jun. Changes w/ 16 May. Do you (or anyone else) by any chance know if Election Maps have altered their methodology recently? If not, that's a chunky old reduction in LAB VI, along with several others recently. At least CON don't seem to be benefiting. That poll is from People's polling, run by Matt Goodwin a committed Farage/Reform supporter It's methodology is a little opaque Saying that it doesn't now seem that different to some other polls, it's earlier polls showing huge Labour leads were certainly outliers |
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Post by Danny on Jun 13, 2024 9:16:37 GMT
For this election it is very good news for Labour with a split ROC vote, but as we are seeing with France and USA this Far/Farish right vote isn't going away and while there's been ebbs and flows based on events the Far right seems to be becoming more mainstream and respectable. Of course they are. immigration seems to be a huge deal for a certain group of the population. I dont care about peoples race so long as they are friendly to get along with, but even so it becomes ridiculous if your country changes so much because of the sheer numbers of immigrants with different cultural traditions. And if climate change gets going, this will become worse not better. The EU provided a pool of labour with traditions closer to our own than encouraging people to come here from all over the world as we are now doing. Obviously this is going to create a voting block. Any middle ground parties who want to prevent that need to figure a solution which pretty much does what farage is campaigning for, net zero immigration. Though I noticed Scotland has had a longstanding desire for more immigration, its significanlty under populated compared to the rest of the UK. The Scots want more devolved powers and allowing them to create their own immigration rules would be a good idea. Far better to send the boat people to Scotland if they want them. Let them have the millions paid to Rwanda. |
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Post by crossbat11 on Jun 13, 2024 9:19:18 GMT
Do you (or anyone else) by any chance know if Election Maps have altered their methodology recently? If not, that's a chunky old reduction in LAB VI, along with several others recently. At least CON don't seem to be benefiting. That poll is from People's polling, run by Matt Goodwin a committed Farage/Reform supporter It's methodology is a little opaque Saying that it doesn't now seem that different to some other polls, it's earlier polls showing huge Labour leads were certainly outliers Goodwin is a classic example of a fake independent analyst from the academic world and pseudo-impartial observer of the political scene. A sort of Clare Fox without the Far Left background. Beware the fake Professors when they come bearing independent thoughts. He's a Toby Young fan too, isn't he? |
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Post by Danny on Jun 13, 2024 9:25:33 GMT
Sunak cannot catch a break: yesterday stagnant growth, today "Hospital waiting list figure for England rises for first time in 7 months, to 7.57m, figures show" Yesterday I heard a GP arguing that more of the NHS budget should be diverted to GPs because they see the great majority of patients and are in the best position to head off illness before it gets so bad a patient ends up in hospital. I heard something similar last year. It may be entirely true that the greater good would be served by doing this, but presumably taking money away from hospitals would put up the hospital waiting lists even further. I never hear published figures for the difficulty in getting to see a GP, maybe thats why they arent getting the money? |
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Post by Old Southendian on Jun 13, 2024 9:29:35 GMT
Sunak cannot catch a break: yesterday stagnant growth, today "Hospital waiting list figure for England rises for first time in 7 months, to 7.57m, figures show" Not so much of the 'cannot catch a break'. This one's got nothing to do with luck, and far more to do with the policies and priorities of the government for the last 10+ years.
Sorry to be so picky, but I'm not really getting this 'feeling sorry for Sunak' business. I'm enjoying the fact that after years of blaming someone else, just for once, the Tories are reaping the 'reward' for their poor governance.
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Post by wb61 on Jun 13, 2024 9:34:09 GMT
Sunak cannot catch a break: Sorry to be so picky, but I'm not really getting this 'feeling sorry for Sunak' business. I'm enjoying the fact that after years of blaming someone else, just for once, the Tories are reaping the 'reward' for their poor governance.
Do not think for a moment I feel sorry for him or any of the Tories, they are reaping what they sewed, I was just trying to be amusing about the timing and thinking what a gift to Labour on manifesto launch day  |
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Post by alberto on Jun 13, 2024 9:38:54 GMT
For this election it is very good news for Labour with a split ROC vote, but as we are seeing with France and USA this Far/Farish right vote isn't going away and while there's been ebbs and flows based on events the Far right seems to be becoming more mainstream and respectable. I think we've been heading towards a France-like situation for a while with three poles (Liberals, Socialists and Nationalists) instead of a left-right split. Like in France the socialists are the weakest and forced to side, often reluctantly, with the liberals to keep the nationalists from power. The bitterness between the socialists and liberals here probably demonstrates the point. |
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Post by steve on Jun 13, 2024 9:39:14 GMT
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Post by steve on Jun 13, 2024 9:43:13 GMT
"Sunak cannot catch a break:" sorry I thought you said catch a brick  |
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Post by dodger on Jun 13, 2024 9:44:55 GMT
Where are we at with the "Don't Knows"? Are they coming down % yet?
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Post by Old Southendian on Jun 13, 2024 9:45:57 GMT
Sorry to be so picky, but I'm not really getting this 'feeling sorry for Sunak' business. I'm enjoying the fact that after years of blaming someone else, just for once, the Tories are reaping the 'reward' for their poor governance.
Do not think for a moment I feel sorry for him or any of the Tories, they are reaping what they sewed, I was just trying to be amusing about the timing and thinking what a gift to Labour on manifesto launch day Don't worry, tone is so difficult online. I'm definitely feeling happy about the situation and amused by your comment, but I'm not very good with the smiley objects. I'm always worried I'll use the wrong one as I believe some have very speicific and unexpected meanings. Who was it who made the "Laugh Out Loud" vs "Lots of Love" blunder? |
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Post by alec on Jun 13, 2024 9:46:32 GMT
wb61 - "Sunak cannot catch a break: yesterday stagnant growth, today "Hospital waiting list figure for England rises for first time in 7 months, to 7.57m, figures show" " This isn't remotely surprising. Strikes will have had an impact to a degree, but we've also seen a lengthy period last year where covid was a more minor influence as we went through a relative quiet period in terms of variant evolution. This changed last autumn, and since then we have had a period of constant, rapid variant production which has seen significant waves of infection. While the acute stage of the waves has caused some pressure on the NHS, through both demand and increased staff absence, the fact that mild cases are creating subsequent longer term health impacts even after mild acute infections, we can expect more pressure on health systems. Globally, it looks like the KP.3 variant is starting to do some real damage. The Madrid region in Spain currently has the highest levels of covid hospitalisations for 15 months, with unseasonal waves reported elsewhere in Spain. Parts of Claifornia are reporting the highest ever wastewater readings, with pressure growing on healthcare facilities, particularly in the bay area. Australia is in the middle of a substantial wave, with some hospitals in Adelaide & elsewhere forced to close for new admissions because they've been crippled by high levels of staff sickness. Ireland is reporting sharply rising cases. In the UK, figures are hard to come by as we've gone from having some of the best surveillance systems in the world to probably the worst, in western countries at least, so it's very difficult to know what the score is here. There are reported ward closures in several hospitals due to covid outbreaks, in June, which is a bit bizarre for a virus that is meant to be 'endemic' and 'like a normal seasonal virus'. School absence data released this morning provides a telling picture. In the last available week (up to May 20th, England only) just under 10% of lessons were missed. That's worse than last year, and striking, for the pre exam period. There has been a very marginal decline in year to date overall absence this year compared to last (7.1% compared to 7.5%) but remarkably the unauthorised absence rate year to date is *exactly the same* as it was this time last year, at 2.3%. All the effort that has gone into chasing unauthorised absence has led to zero improvement, which rather suggests the reasons why children are missing school are far more related to actual sickness, rather than some invented 'culture change' from a few weeks of partial school closures four years ago. And of course, we had figures yesterday sowing the continued acceleration of the number of working age people unfit to work, adding perhaps £1.3bn to the benefits bill. There are effective ways to tackle these issues, but pretending covid isn't real is not one of them. The longer this goes on, the more damaging it will become, but once in power Labour are going to have to address this of face their education and health ambitions collapse. Dealing with the impact of preventable infections is one of the quickest and easiest ways to both boost the economy, save the NHS and repair the damage to the education system.
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Post by patrickbrian on Jun 13, 2024 9:50:12 GMT
In terms of story, the "who will win?" line is dead. Some sub-plots - Farage, Lib Dems, local stuff, will keep going till polling day - but the main storyline now is "will the Tories be annihilated?" Most Tories have realised that too - hence all the kerfuffle about supermajorities, Starmer as dictator, etc.
Everybody wants rid of this useless bunch, and most people think Starmer and co will be all right, so we can all have a laugh at Rishi, while mainly watching the footie.... (not me - sports leave me luke warm, tho I'm not bothered by other people's obsession with them. A relatively harmless opioid) The country seems rather united for once.
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Jun 13, 2024 9:54:54 GMT
For this election it is very good news for Labour with a split ROC vote, but as we are seeing with France and USA this Far/Farish right vote isn't going away and while there's been ebbs and flows based on events the Far right seems to be becoming more mainstream and respectable. I think we've been heading towards a France-like situation for a while with three poles (Liberals, Socialists and Nationalists) instead of a left-right split. Like in France the socialists are the weakest and forced to side, often reluctantly, with the liberals to keep the nationalists from power. The bitterness between the socialists and liberals here probably demonstrates the point. liberals and socialists tend to have more that divides them than unites them. They are opposed on key things. If you take the Guardian and Telegraph for example, readers of one might not care for the other and vice versa. But they may have more in common with each other than with the socialists. For example, economically, they both like trade deals. They both like free movement of goods, services, and capital. They differ on free movement of people, whereas the left might differ on all of it. Also, unlike many on the left, both Telegraph and Guardian and often their readers, tend to be for a smaller state. They differ on how you would have a smaller state: Telegraph readers might prefer to hand more power to capital and the private sector, Guardian readers might prefer to hand more and more power upwards to a supernational body like the EU (they have been keen on some privatisations as well). This is why they both have hostility to the left and rather see each other in power than the left. there is some commonality between liberals and the left: they both like more spent on public services, for example, and that is what liberals tend to stress when trying to win over the left. But on other things, that affect economic equality, there can be big differences. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2024 10:01:29 GMT
I'd like to report the sighting of something very rare today. Tory election posters. Both on the outskirts of Winchester, a one time LD stronghold and almost nailed on gain for them. One was the old fashioned farmer's field poster on a main road and the other was a small one outside the gate of a rural house. Both un-mistakabely tory blue, none of the design of the current election leaflets that seeks to make candidates appear almost as independents. Seen plenty of those around the farmland near Winchester and Romsey constituencies going back to 2001. Thankfully just a few votes from a few crusty tweed-wearers. |
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Post by thylacine on Jun 13, 2024 10:02:16 GMT
Do not think for a moment I feel sorry for him or any of the Tories, they are reaping what they sewed, I was just trying to be amusing about the timing and thinking what a gift to Labour on manifesto launch day Don't worry, tone is so difficult online. I'm definitely feeling happy about the situation and amused by your comment, but I'm not very good with the smiley objects. I'm always worried I'll use the wrong one as I believe some have very speicific and unexpected meanings. Who was it who made the "Laugh Out Loud" vs "Lots of Love" blunder? Well Tay Tay made Loml Loss of my life rather than Love of my life. |
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Post by wb61 on Jun 13, 2024 10:07:46 GMT
Well Tay Tay made Loml Loss of my life rather than Love of my life. For a, brief and surreal, moment I thought that was the start of the lyrics of a Mel & Kim song  |
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Post by robbiealive on Jun 13, 2024 10:12:56 GMT
Fuck feeling sorry for politicians. Victoria Derbyshire wouldn't agree with you. I’ve spent a lifetime interviewing politicians – trust me, they’re not all the sameTherefore can I make an appeal for a little tolerance? It’s mildly irritating when I see all that all members of one profession – say social workers, or bus drivers or even journalists are generally dismissed as worthless, so shall we stop doing it with politicians?Oh for God's sake. My comment arose from reading expressions of sympathy for Sunak: e.g. crossbat11 : He looks an utterly broken man to me. This already elongated campaign, with three weeks still left to run, has the potential to get increasingly painful for Sunak. I fear this thing could become a horrible spectacle and we may witness a personal ordeal so excruciating that anyone with a shred of humanity would want it to stop.Let's fast forward it to when we can vote and end it all. For Sunak's sake.Sunak made hundreds of millions doing what exactly. He is not only v right-wing economically but also socially. He made a grubby deal with the appalling Braverman so he could gain the leadership. He made Badenoch equalities minister, yes equalities!, who is obsessed with toilets & conducts the silliest of anti-woke campaigns. He was quite happy to persecute Angela Rayner on the basis she evaded CGT, which arose from Ashcroft's smear, who has avoided £X00 Mill in tax & condescends to give a few mill back to the Tory party. Etc, etc. Besides the length of the campaign was his decision, which he took for purely tactical reasons. If the decision has backfired tough. Show me one shred of humanity is his policies & I'll weep out of one eye. As for persecutinbg occupation groups. The anti-BBC cabal on here, just about everybody, obsessively criticise individual BBC journalists in a campaign which is as boring & vindictive as it is one-sided. Posters grub around finding examples to confirm their "theory", in total disregard of any rules of proper debate; in tirades which are as unbalanced as they claim BBC journalism to be! White Swans are everywhere. Sundays on here are are Laura Kuenssberg Hate Days. The venom displayed towards her & other BBC journalists is ever present. (I shall return to this subject). The only place you see more slagging of the BBC is the D. Telegraph. I don't despise journalists only those who pump out anti-Labour lies in the gutter press, who don't deserve the title anyway. As for V. Derbyshire: lots of MPs from all parties cosy up to her because the poor woman had breast cancer. That include MPs who have voted for tax cuts over adequate NHS provision. Don't make me laugh. Plus the logic of her argument which leaps from disparaging politicians to killing them is defective. I thought it was a feeble magazine piece which cost me a few seconds of my life. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2024 10:14:56 GMT
Again I've had a suspicious file download when I've clicked between pages on this forum - it's called m9kAT3_N.htm. Happened yesterday too. Needless to say I'm not opening it, just deleting it and running a virus check.
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Post by graham on Jun 13, 2024 10:15:40 GMT
It's interesting how recent polls have seen Labour floating down significantly from what I always thought were unrealistic mid to high 40 levels. No party has ever achieved those sorts of vote share figures in recent times, not even landslide winners like Thatcher, Blair and Johnson. , so rather depressingly, Johnson in '19, received the largest vote share, 43.6%, since 1979 (Thatcher 43.9%).Those are UK figures - most pollsters give us GB data. On a GB basis the Tories polled 44.7% in 2019 and 44.8% in 1979. |
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Post by James E on Jun 13, 2024 10:15:57 GMT
Election Maps UK @electionmapsuk Westminster Voting Intention: LAB: 39% (-7) CON: 19% (-1) RFM: 17% (+3) LDM: 10% (+2) Via @peoplepolling , 11-12 Jun. Changes w/ 16 May. Do you (or anyone else) by any chance know if Election Maps have altered their methodology recently? If not, that's a chunky old reduction in LAB VI, along with several others recently. At least CON don't seem to be benefiting. This one seems to be an outlier, but there is a clear trend of a reduction in the Lab VI. I prefer, wherever possible to compare current polls to the pollsters' long term averages, and to factor in changes in methodology. So for me, YouGov's Lab 38% using their MRP approach needs to be compared to their two large pre-election MRPs which showed an average Lab VI of 40%. There is the additional factor of pollsters now prompting for parties according to the declared candidates for each seat, which does seem to have had some effect. Looking at the seven most recent polls by fieldwork, the Lab VI has done this: PP -6.5 (compared to 4 pre-election polls averaged) MiC -1.5 (compared to many pre-election polls, averaged) Norstat -4 (compared to their one other recent poll, as that's all we have from them) YouGov -2 (compared to 2 large pre-election MRPs) Focaldata -1.5 (compared to their 2 other election polls, as we have none from earlier in 2024) Survation -2 (compared to their most recent poll, as a change to their prompt prior to that has also clearly had an impact for smaller parties VI) Verian -0 (compared to their one previous poll a week earlier) That's an average loss of 2.5%, an a slightly reduced lead across these 7 polls of 19% ( Lab 40.4, Con 21.4, Ref 15, LD 11 ) |
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Post by crossbat11 on Jun 13, 2024 10:22:52 GMT
robbiealive Is the rather self important "I shall return to this later" a threat or promise, Robbie? I unreservedly welcome your return to this forum, but that was a disappointingly weird rant of a post, I have to say.
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Post by robbiealive on Jun 13, 2024 10:25:31 GMT
Do you (or anyone else) by any chance know if Election Maps have altered their methodology recently? If not, that's a chunky old reduction in LAB VI, along with several others recently. At least CON don't seem to be benefiting. This one seems to be an outlier, but there is a clear trend of a reduction in the Lab VI. I prefer, wherever possible to compare current polls to the pollsters' long term averages, and so factor in changes in methodology. So for me, YouGov's lab 38% using their MRP approach needs to be compared to their two large pre-election MRPs which showed an average Lab VI of 40%. There is the additional factor of pollsters now prompting for parties according to the declared candidates for each seat, which does seem to have had some effect. Looking at the seven most recent polls by fieldwork, the Lab VI has done this: PP -6.5 (compared to 4 pre-election polls averaged) MiC -1.5 (compared to many pre-election polls, averaged) Norstat -4 (compared to their one other recent poll, as that's all we have from them) YouGov -2 (compared to 2 large pre-election MRPs) Focaldata -1.5 (compared to their 2 other election polls, as we have none from earlier in 2024) Survation -2 (compared to their most recent poll, as a change to their prompt prior to that has also clearly had an impact for smaller parties VI) Verian -0 (compared to their one previous poll a week earlier) That's an average loss of 2.5%, an a slightly reduced lead across these 7 polls of 19% ( Lab 40.4, Con 21.4, Ref 15, LD 11 ) Sorry St James to trouble you: I know how busy you are. The pollster who never sleeps. (How do you keep maintain yr temperate tone.) But who are this mob. This lot? " ElectionMapsUK is run by myself, a 22-year-old student. Obviously this means it’s run on a tight budget, and thus relies on donations to keep going in order to cover the costs of website hosting, software etc. Donations of any size are hugely appreciated, and you can do so on the buttons below. You can also support ElectionMapsUK by purchasing posters from our RedBubble store, which I will also link to below.
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Post by thylacine on Jun 13, 2024 10:28:47 GMT
Really like the idea of having "real" people as speakers at the labour party manifesto launch.
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