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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 17:38:00 GMT
William Wragg, vice Chair of the 1922 committee executive is now calling for Johnson to resign. Barbara, I think close of play tomorrow is possible if the rest of the grey suits concur. Excellent. The lovely (and v talented) Liz Truss next in the “Have a go at being PM” Tory Party lottery. |
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Post by graham on Jan 12, 2022 17:38:13 GMT
I don’t know the answer to this one ,were the rules that applied to meeting people on the 20th of March 2020 against the law and a criminal offence or were they under the heading of goverment guidance which was not a criminal offence. And is the garden of number 10 a public outdoor space or private. I was only wondering as I understand the Met were looking into what happened. And it was around that time government advice was changing. Having watch parts of the Johnson at PMQ’s I was struck by whenever you hear those words you must apologise in the media or from opposition parties and a apology is given ,its never accepted or it’s the wrong apology . That doesn’t just apply to politicians but to almost everybody who has done something wrong makes the effort to say sorry, but it’s never good enough if they happen to be in the the public eye. The other thing that struck me is how much Starmers fortunes are tied into Johnson, every advancement Labour have made is due solely to what Johnson does and even then Starmers personal ratings are still way behind his party and barely above Johnson’s who let’s face it hasn’t had the best of press lately. Still on the up side just a few more months of Boris ,although you can never write him off, then hopefully the Tories will begin the selection of either Sunak or Truss either one will won’t have much trouble with the leader of the opposition. It was ever thus that the opposition only tends to prosper when the government is perceived to be failing and found wanting. |
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Post by graham on Jan 12, 2022 17:40:30 GMT
William Wragg, vice Chair of the 1922 committee executive is now calling for Johnson to resign. Barbara, I think close of play tomorrow is possible if the rest of the grey suits concur. Excellent. The lovely (and v talented) Liz Truss next in the “Have a go at being PM” Tory Party lottery. The 'Tory Trollop' rides to the rescue?
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Post by barbara on Jan 12, 2022 17:40:36 GMT
William Wragg, vice Chair of the 1922 committee executive is now calling for Johnson to resign. Barbara, I think close of play tomorrow is possible if the rest of the grey suits concur. Excellent. The lovely (and v talented) Liz Truss next in the “Have a go at being PM” Tory Party lottery. Its' a bit like 1936 when we had 3 kings in one year. We could go for 4 PMs in 6 years. Is that a record? |
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Post by mandolinist on Jan 12, 2022 17:43:09 GMT
I particularly enjoyed Wragg suggesting that this would be "for the good of the country", nothing to do with fear of losing the next election or anything crass like that of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 17:43:17 GMT
Just on 400 covid deaths today. <<<<<<<<<<<<<< (That was written with political relevance so it doesn’t have to go in the covid thread-bin.:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 17:44:58 GMT
Excellent. The lovely (and v talented) Liz Truss next in the “Have a go at being PM” Tory Party lottery. The 'Tory Trollop' rides to the rescue?
Wash your mouth out with soap and water. (and don’t say “Tory” again.” |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 17:46:36 GMT
I suppose that if we have an early general election carfrew won’t know who to not vote for most.
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Post by tancred on Jan 12, 2022 17:48:50 GMT
Excellent. The lovely (and v talented) Liz Truss next in the “Have a go at being PM” Tory Party lottery. Its' a bit like 1936 when we had 3 kings in one year. We could go for 4 PMs in 6 years. Is that a record? We are getting to have as many PMs as Italy at this rate!! Don't they change one every six months? |
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Post by tancred on Jan 12, 2022 17:50:00 GMT
Just on 400 covid deaths today. <<<<<<<<<<<<<< (That was written with political relevance so it doesn’t have to go in the covid thread-bin.: Which type of Covid? And how many of the deaths are vaccinated people? |
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Post by jimjam on Jan 12, 2022 17:53:58 GMT
Turk,
''Starmers personal ratings are still way behind his party'
Monday's R&W which has the leading 'at the moment' introduction Starmer was on 37%
The headline Lab number was 39%.
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Post by jib on Jan 12, 2022 17:59:08 GMT
crossbat11"Wise counsel from the grandees will not be heeded." Indeed. He'll probably threaten to expel them! All those sworn enemies aren't enemies for no good reason. I'm afraid the Tories first elected a rogue, followed by the UK.
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Post by robbiealive on Jan 12, 2022 18:09:13 GMT
"We could go for 4 PMs in 6 years. Is that a record?"
There were four from 1916-23, Asquith, Lloyd G, Bonar-Law, Baldwin.
Four from 1937-45, BaLdwin Chamberlain, Churchill, Attlee;
Also from 1951-57, Atlee, Churchill, Eden, Macmillan.
That record was beaten more than once in the 18th & 19th centuries.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 18:09:40 GMT
Just on 400 covid deaths today. <<<<<<<<<<<<<< (That was written with political relevance so it doesn’t have to go in the covid thread-bin.: Which type of Covid? And how many of the deaths are vaccinated people? You’ll need to toddle off to the covid section if you seriously want to ask questions. All comments there will leave you clocking up minus posts and also leave you vulnerable to the very latest strain of covid (for which there is no known cure.) |
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Post by neilj on Jan 12, 2022 18:18:10 GMT
More evidence that the party could not be described as a works event
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Post by steve on Jan 12, 2022 18:19:55 GMT
robbiealive There were four prime ministers in five years at the commencement of the 19th century. To be fair the departure of Spencer Percival was a surprise to Spencer as he was assassinated.
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Jan 12, 2022 18:22:19 GMT
Re: who to vote for:
I might consider voting for the Don’t Knows, who sometimes do quite well in polling, but somehow they never seem to be on the ballot.
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Post by neilj on Jan 12, 2022 18:24:59 GMT
Rees-mogg really does think there is one rule for them and a different one for us
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 18:27:16 GMT
Re: who to vote for: I might consider voting for the Don’t Knows, who sometimes do well in polling, yet somehow they never seem to be on the ballot. You could set up that party and stand - as it’s leader - for election. You could then answer “don’t know mate” to all questions from pundits and public. People like nifty catchphrases so you would almost certainly win and become PM. Continue with your main policy and I don’t see why the country shouldn’t thrive - certainly wouldn’t do any worse. |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Jan 12, 2022 18:31:48 GMT
Stop dragging me into stuff, I’m busy.
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Post by graham on Jan 12, 2022 18:31:58 GMT
"We could go for 4 PMs in 6 years. Is that a record?" There were four from 1916-23, Asquith, Lloyd G, Bonar-Law, Baldwin. Four from 1937-45, BaLdwin Chamberlain, Churchill, Attlee; Also from 1951-57, Atlee, Churchill, Eden, Macmillan. That record was beaten more than once in the 18th & 19th centuries. 1916 - end of 1924 saw 6 PMs - Asquith , Lloyd George, Bonar Law, Baldwin, Macdonald, Baldwin(again). |
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Post by barbara on Jan 12, 2022 18:36:13 GMT
Rees-mogg really does think there is one rule for them and a different one for us The irony of this is that even if the polls showed Boris Johnson only has the confidence of 10% of the population, only Tory MPs can remove him, just as only they and the 90,000 Conservative Party Members could elect him. And apart from that we get a say only once every 5 years. And they call this democracy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 18:40:03 GMT
barbara The good thing about the current system is that we get leaders who can do jokes in Latin for the benefit of the hoi polloi.* (*Whoever tf they are.)
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Post by statgeek on Jan 12, 2022 18:46:56 GMT
I am a bit concerned that, as my post count closes on 300, I might not be rewarded suitably. Why not create a thread for it? That way, you and others can spam the hell out of that and not this one. |
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Post by statgeek on Jan 12, 2022 18:49:58 GMT
Since I'm in forum etiquette mode, if replying to someone, just add their name, and not quote them. If quoting them, it's bad form to include the entire post if it's not applicable. And it's especially bad form to quote an entire embedded visual in a quote. Double reading for all, and not necessary. Nuff said.  |
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Post by hireton on Jan 12, 2022 18:51:14 GMT
A majority of Tory MSPs in Scotland have now called for Johnson to resign. I have not seen any reports about other Scottish Tory MP following Ross.
This seems to be a big bet by the Scotland branch of the party that Johnson will go.
If he doesn't, they will have to
A. Fight the local elections in May and the next UK General Election ( if it applies to Scotland) as part of the UK party whose leadership they have no confidence in
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B. Setting up an independent Scottish Tory Party.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 18:56:19 GMT
Why not create a thread for it? That way, you and others can spam the hell out of that and not this one. They're excited statgeek . Bless Haven't been so excited since 1992 . Its 48 years since their Labour Party won a GE. They'll calm down soon. |
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Post by neilj on Jan 12, 2022 18:57:24 GMT
Since I'm in forum etiquette mode, if replying to someone, just add their name, and not quote them. If quoting them, it's bad form to include the entire post if it's not applicable. And it's especially bad form to quote an entire embedded visual in a quote. Double reading for all, and not necessary. Nuff said. Not sure I agree 😀 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 18:57:56 GMT
barbara The good thing about the current system is that we get leaders who can do jokes in Latin for the benefit of the hoi polloi.* (*Whoever tf they are.) Point of information - "hoi polloi" is Greek |
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Post by leftieliberal on Jan 12, 2022 18:58:16 GMT
Don't think Johnson does bloodless coups. Expect blood on the carpet. Lots of it.  |
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