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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Jan 12, 2022 15:13:35 GMT
I should have said - they didn't like synthesizers either. Sorry c-a-r-f-r-e-w . They didn’t know about the sonic virtues (or the elegance of the design) of the Moog ladder filter, and its potential impact on music. www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sAq0FjRUI4 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 15:26:42 GMT
I presume Con MPs will be watching like hawks. a few are likely watching like 'vultures', circling at a safe distance for now  |
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Post by neilj on Jan 12, 2022 15:27:14 GMT
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Post by steve on Jan 12, 2022 15:29:36 GMT
Spaffer
From hero (to some), to Nero in two gruesomely long years.
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Post by mercian on Jan 12, 2022 15:31:07 GMT
(I had to go back to 1974 for my last major trophy. A bit like the Villa. 1957 in our case!). Forgot the League Division 1 and European Cup in the early 80s! |
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Post by oldnat on Jan 12, 2022 15:32:01 GMT
A little known verse of the Ball o' Kirriemuir -
"Four and twenty virgins,
Met the Earl of Inverness,
And when he didn't meet them,
There were four and twenty less"
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Post by mandolinist on Jan 12, 2022 15:33:52 GMT
steamdrivenandy - "Surely the feminine of mandolinist is a mandolinista" No, a 'mandolinista' is 19th Century Italian radical, common around the time of the Italian unification struggle. The Mandolinistas saw it as their patriotic duty to eradicate the new fangled guitar, which they saw as a foreign cultural object and as part of efforts by the Austro-Hungarian empire to subjugate the new Italian national identify and weaken the unification cause. The Mandolinistas became famous for their revolutionary violence, including the assassination of numerous 'fancy pluckers', as they called them, cutting their fingers off and stringing their bodies up from trees using only traditional cat gut, an Italian tradition reprised by both the Fascists and Partisans in the WWII era. They were known to rampage at night through the streets of Rome and elsewhere, chanting "Il mio mandolino perseguiterà le tombe dei vostri figli", which roughly translates as "my mandolin will haunt your children's graves", as they hunted down guitar players in their merciless pursuit of cultural purity. By the late 1860s the movement had largely been superseded by the Guerrieri Salsiccia movement, (the Sausage Warriors) who believed Teutonic sausages were polluting Italian cuisine and ... [OK - that's enough - Ed.] I cannot believe that my rather innocent name choice has resulted in this fantastical flight of invention. Can I borrow (steal) it? |
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Post by neilj on Jan 12, 2022 15:38:18 GMT
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Post by neilj on Jan 12, 2022 15:40:21 GMT
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Post by neilj on Jan 12, 2022 15:41:19 GMT
Not looking good for the Tories, the economy must be particularly worrying
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Post by alec on Jan 12, 2022 15:51:28 GMT
mandolinist - "I cannot believe that my rather innocent name choice has resulted in this fantastical flight of invention. Can I borrow (steal) it?" How dare you accuse me of invention! Next you'll be accusing me of making things up!! Of course - use it as you will, but do please credit any extracts: 'Mandolins, Sausages and Extreme Violence - An Alternative History of Italy' by A. R. Seitch, 2021, published by Hodder & Staunton,London. Part of the Alternative History of the World series, currently being adapted for the BBC.
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Post by hireton on Jan 12, 2022 15:52:10 GMT
Douglas Ross calls on Johnson to resign.
Sir Roger Gale says that Johndon has listed Parliament and shod resign and if he doesn't the 1922 Committee should intervene.
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Post by tancred on Jan 12, 2022 15:56:50 GMT
My bet is on Boris resisting fiercely. He is not a quitter by nature. I could be wrong, but I don't think he will go quietly. Expect some fireworks and possibly, more embarrassing revelations from Cummings or another source.
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Post by oldnat on Jan 12, 2022 15:56:58 GMT
Hireton
Of all the Scots politicians calling for Johnson to resign, Ross is probably the only one who genuinely believes that such would improve their party's potential ratings.
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 12, 2022 16:09:18 GMT
Just some musings about Johnson. Firstly, he's finished, I think. His goose was probably cooked with the public when the first revelations about Downing Street parties emerged a month or more ago. Not a question of "if" any longer, but more one of when and how he goes.
Secondly, and this is the one that intrigues me; will he go quietly? What grief might he be prepared to wreak on his party as a price for what he may well think to be betrayal and ingratitude? Narcissists don't like accepting either defeat or blame and I doubt he's the sort of Tory politician, like Cameron or May, who willingly fall on their sword for the sake of the party. Johnson doesn't strike me as a party man (no jokes please). He eschews the rubber chicken circuit and party networking and I don't think he's one for spending his weekends opening Tory fund raising fetes in the shires gladhanding the faithful.
Accordingly, I think he'll try and tough it out and, if challenged formally, will fight it vigorously and, probably, viciously. I think he'd be quite prepared to take quite a bit of his party down with him. Wise counsel from the grandees will not be heeded.
Don't think Johnson does bloodless coups. Expect blood on the carpet. Lots of it.
Of course, no drama Starmer wants him to swing in the wind for as long as possible and I have a feeling that his wish may well come true.
Johnson will swing in the wind for some time yet is my hunch.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 16:09:23 GMT
I am sure that there will be appropriate, country-wide celebrations on the occasion of the 100th Anniversary of the founding of the illustrious 1922 committee*** but, more importantly, will there be a day off for all the street parties? Especially in Scotland where the “1922” are much revered.
Not that I’m that bothered - I haven’t had a day off since I retired.
*** Only a few original members left standing - well... sitting really.
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Post by hireton on Jan 12, 2022 16:12:29 GMT
Hireton Of all the Scots politicians calling for Johnson to resign, Ross is probably the only one who genuinely believes that such would improve their party's potential ratings. It also exposes the other 6 Tory Scottish MPs to the question whether they agree with Ross and whether they too have written to the 1922 Committee to express no confidence in Johnson as Ross has. Not surprisingly, the SNP has asked them! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 16:14:01 GMT
Agree with your prognosis Battmeister.
Have contacted some posh dailies to see if they are looking for a slightly LOC leader writer.
Mr and Mrs Boris will be furious at the thought of being humiliated and will fight back or, as my Dad used to say, my name’s Gunga Din.
Gunga x (hedging my bests.)
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Post by alec on Jan 12, 2022 16:15:38 GMT
crossbat11 - a bigger question if how do the Tory tribes sort themselves out, I think. Johnosn is a total liar, and that has been his downfall, but it was also the reason for his success. He persuaded very opposite parts of his party that he was 'their man', and such is his gift for rootlass evasion, they all believed him. Even the ERG repeatedly backed him, as he rolled over to the EU in the Brexit talks. I don't think anyone who follows has that chutzpah, which I guess is a metropolitan elite way of describing dishonesty, to carry off such a balancing act. They won't be able to reconcle the factions. That's when the carpets get really bloody.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 16:16:34 GMT
Oh jolly good... “Prince” Andrew to the rescue taking headlines away from Johnson.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 16:19:32 GMT
crossbat11 - a bigger question if how do the Tory tribes sort themselves out, I think. Johnosn is a total liar, and that has been his downfall, but it was also the reason for his success. He persuaded very opposite parts of his party that he was 'their man', and such is his gift for rootlass evasion, they all believed him. Even the ERG repeatedly backed him, as he rolled over to the EU in the Brexit talks. I don't think anyone who follows has that chutzpah, which I guess is a metropolitan elite way of describing dishonesty, to carry off such a balancing act. They won't be able to reconcle the factions. That's when the carpets get really bloody. I think that most of us are looking forward to that and booking front of house seats. Of course, they could choose Captain Sensible and the voters would think: “ Ooooolook! New government, jolly good!! And we didn’t even have to vote.” |
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Post by mercian on Jan 12, 2022 16:20:11 GMT
Even the ERG repeatedly backed him, as he rolled over to the EU in the Brexit talks. Didn't you say in an earlier post that we had a hard Brexit? If so, how can those two statements be reconciled? |
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Post by paulnish on Jan 12, 2022 16:20:19 GMT
Officer, I only burgled the house for 25 minutes, so it doesn't really count as a crime, does it? That is the thing that annoys me. People talking about rules being broken. At that stage the regulations had been made in to laws. Everyone who attended those parties have broken the law. |
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Post by tancred on Jan 12, 2022 16:22:08 GMT
Officer, I only burgled the house for 25 minutes, so it doesn't really count as a crime, does it? That is the thing that annoys me. People talking about rules being broken. At that stage the regulations had been made in to laws. Everyone who attended those parties have broken the law. Well, there is breaking and entering and there is burglary. Both are crimes, the latter being more serious because it adds theft to the former. |
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Post by domjg on Jan 12, 2022 16:36:44 GMT
Even the ERG repeatedly backed him, as he rolled over to the EU in the Brexit talks. Didn't you say in an earlier post that we had a hard Brexit? If so, how can those two statements be reconciled? ERG Speak: "rolled over to the EU" translation: "minimum concession to economic and regulatory reality". Ie a hard brexit to humans. I suspect a Brexit that the ERG themselves described as 'hard' would be something akin to moving Britain to an alternate universe where the European continent doesn't exist.. |
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Post by neilj on Jan 12, 2022 16:38:32 GMT
tancred 'well, there is breaking and entering and there is burglary. Both are crimes, the latter being more serious because it adds theft to the former'[/quote] Actually you do not need to steal anything to commit burglary, all they need is to enter as a trespasser with intent to steal, amongst other things
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 16:42:47 GMT
mandolinist - "I cannot believe that my rather innocent name choice has resulted in this fantastical flight of invention. Can I borrow (steal) it?" How dare you accuse me of invention! Next you'll be accusing me of making things up!! Of course - use it as you will, but do please credit any extracts: 'Mandolins, Sausages and Extreme Violence - An Alternative History of Italy' by A. R. Seitch, 2021, published by Hodder & Staunton,London. Part of the Alternative History of the World series, currently being adapted for the BBC. In reality mandolinista were Czech nationals who emptied their parliament in 1618. |
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Post by oldnat on Jan 12, 2022 16:43:37 GMT
"Full scale revolt among Scottish Tories, nine [MSPs} so far backing Douglas Ross's call for PM to quit:"
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Post by barbara on Jan 12, 2022 16:50:38 GMT
alec Maybe Sue will report that it WAS a party but that the PM understandably thought it wasn’t because people were wearing suits, there were no wimmin in attendance and everybody was talking bollocks. Hence it seemed like a normal day at the office, but sensibly taking place outside where social distancing is so much easier. Ergo he is innocent and was busy working hard in the interest of the whole country. As long as taking your wife to a work meeting and watching her drink gin counts. |
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Post by steve on Jan 12, 2022 16:54:58 GMT
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