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Post by steve on May 4, 2024 14:03:38 GMT
"Sir John on the BBC has just confirmed your analysis, EmCat. LDEM have come second overall."
But surely as I am repeatedly told here no one but a few of us obsessive remainers now vote lib dem.
Almost as if they might be talking total cobblers.
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Post by steve on May 4, 2024 14:07:46 GMT
Andy Burnham, giving a victory speech with thanks to those from other parties for lending him their support.
Shame he never got to be party leader. Still time he's only 54
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Post by RAF on May 4, 2024 14:08:47 GMT
Andy Burnham, giving a victory speech with thanks to those from other parties for lending him their support. Shame he never got to be party leader. Still time he's only 54 Still time for sure. A very interesting speech too.
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Post by shevii on May 4, 2024 14:18:02 GMT
Only two seats declared for London assembly so far and no votes declared for the (sort of) PR section of the assembly.
Interesting that despite still being FPTP the London assembly constituency vote is less solid for Labour than it is for Khan.
I suppose this reflects the relative importance of mayor compared to assembly. Will be interesting to see the PR element where you vote for preferred party without worrying about it letting Tories in.
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Post by steve on May 4, 2024 14:26:56 GMT
Laura happy to announce the news. No political agenda at the BBC
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Post by steve on May 4, 2024 14:28:54 GMT
sheviiThere are limits to the help we'll give you☺
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Post by mercian on May 4, 2024 14:36:38 GMT
@danny My anecdotal evidence is that many Muslims will still vote for Khan, but will vote Green in the Assembly votes. Their biggest gripe is with how Starner is directing the Party nationally on the issue. There has also been some nonsense on social media about mosques advising Muslims not to vote. That simply isn't true. I'm intrigued to know how you know that.
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Post by neilj on May 4, 2024 14:43:12 GMT
After the drama of the Uxbridge by-election, Sadiq Khan's vote in the area actually went up Seems as expected ULEZ is no longer a salient issue. Once people actually live with it, the fear factor goes away
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Post by mercian on May 4, 2024 14:47:00 GMT
I wonder if crossbat11 will consider the Brexit referendum to be in a bygone age in 2035? If he's still here.
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Post by steve on May 4, 2024 14:47:09 GMT
Gbeebies respond with a measured take on the London mayoralty election.
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Post by pjw1961 on May 4, 2024 14:48:37 GMT
Beginning to sound like it may be close in West Midlands. Solihull showed a swing to Labour of 5% - which if replicated elsewhere would be enough. However, Solihull won't have the Gaza issue to the same extent as other parts of the mayoralty.
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Post by steve on May 4, 2024 14:49:56 GMT
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Post by graham on May 4, 2024 14:50:21 GMT
Rumours that Street has lost by 2-3,000 votes. A recount would mean that the votes right across the West Midlands have to be counted again - the fact that a candidate has comfortably carried a particular authority would not be relevant.
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Post by pjw1961 on May 4, 2024 14:51:58 GMT
If by some chance Labour did take West Midlands then the next Conservative party political broadcast is going to consist of Rishi Sunak wandering up and down Middlesbrough high street muttering "Ben Houchen, Ben Houchen, Ben Houchen," in a low monotone.
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Post by RAF on May 4, 2024 14:52:46 GMT
@danny My anecdotal evidence is that many Muslims will still vote for Khan, but will vote Green in the Assembly votes. Their biggest gripe is with how Starner is directing the Party nationally on the issue. There has also been some nonsense on social media about mosques advising Muslims not to vote. That simply isn't true. I'm intrigued to know how you know that. Well, firstly, I'm a Muslim. Secondly, the comment was about major mosques, which in Lomdon at least would mean London Central Mosque and East London Mosque. Both stream their Friday sermons on You Tube, so its a matter of public record they encouraged people to vote. Thirdly, and most obviously, Muslims clearly have voted all over the country- with some effect in some areas.
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Post by James E on May 4, 2024 14:53:37 GMT
from the BBC
"Khan on course for comfortable win Professor Sir John Curtice
With 11 of the 14 mayoral constituencies in London declared, we are now estimating that Sadiq Khan will win 44% of the vote and Susan Hall 33%."
If that is the outcome, it looks like there has not been a great amount of squeeze on the LD, Green and other parties votes. overall Lab + Lab share is up by 2 points, with Lab up 4 and Con down by 2, compared to the first round result in 2021.
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Post by mercian on May 4, 2024 14:54:48 GMT
2005 is 'a few years ago'. 1905 would be 'a bygone age.' Careful, I'm sure Mercian remembers 1905 as if were yesterday Of course. Stanley Jackson's great year in the Tests.
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Post by hireton on May 4, 2024 14:56:22 GMT
After the drama of the Uxbridge by-election, Sadiq Khan's vote in the area actually went up Seems as expected ULEZ is no longer a salient issue. Once people actually live with it, the fear factor goes away And it makes UK Labour's and Starmer's reaction to the Uxbridge and S Ruislip by-election result all the more ill-judged
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Post by mercian on May 4, 2024 15:04:40 GMT
I'm intrigued to know how you know that. Well, firstly, I'm a Muslim. Secondly, the comment was about major mosques, which in Lomdon at least would mean London Central Mosque and East London Mosque. Both stream their Friday sermons on You Tube, so its a matter of public record they encouraged people to vote. Thirdly, and most obviously, Muslims clearly have voted all over the country- with some effect in some areas. Thanks for that. I suppose because of your moniker I'd imagined a handlebar-moustached chap in a Spitfire and wondered how you could have inside knowledge about what mosques were saying. Also I don't use social media (unless this place counts) so I'm not usually aware of what goes on there.
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Post by pjw1961 on May 4, 2024 15:07:13 GMT
After the drama of the Uxbridge by-election, Sadiq Khan's vote in the area actually went up Seems as expected ULEZ is no longer a salient issue. Once people actually live with it, the fear factor goes away And it makes UK Labour's and Starmer's reaction to the Uxbridge and S Ruislip by-election result all the more ill-judged Fair, but Starmer has reverse ferreted somewhat on that since. He has made things up with "my friend" Sadiq Khan (and that seems to be genuine) and I think Labour are back to supporting ULEZ again although I will concede it can be hard to keep track. It should also be noted that Sunak's "friend of the car" policy announcements after Uxbridge haven't exactly worked.
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Post by RAF on May 4, 2024 15:10:11 GMT
Well, firstly, I'm a Muslim. Secondly, the comment was about major mosques, which in Lomdon at least would mean London Central Mosque and East London Mosque. Both stream their Friday sermons on You Tube, so its a matter of public record they encouraged people to vote. Thirdly, and most obviously, Muslims clearly have voted all over the country- with some effect in some areas. Thanks for that. I suppose because of your moniker I'd imagined a handlebar-moustached chap in a Spitfire and wondered how you could have inside knowledge about what mosques were saying. Also I don't use social media (unless this place counts) so I'm not usually aware of what goes on there. Perhaps I should grow one? As for the Spitfire, I do live close to Biggin Hill Airport where classic military aircraft are stored, so the moniker may not quite be that misleading!
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Post by thylacine on May 4, 2024 15:13:34 GMT
BBC supporting Graham's suggestions re Birmingham count in that it is Andy Street that has requested the bundle checks.
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Post by Danny on May 4, 2024 15:15:14 GMT
Update on the water shortage in Hastings.
Southern water advises that their lorries delivering bottled water to be distributed at the advertised sites are stuck in the traffic jams caused by the people trying to collect the water which is stuck in said traffic.
Seems it wasnt enough for southern water to trash the bank holiday celebrations by turning off the water, they also felt the need to turn the town into a giant traffic jam.
Their latest update on the damage is that the pipe has been repaired, but it will take a while to get the water running through again.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 15:22:05 GMT
BBC supporting Graham's suggestions re Birmingham count in that it is Andy Street that has requested the bundle checks. Certainly looking good for Labour. I’m missing Colin…
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Post by thylacine on May 4, 2024 15:22:28 GMT
Sky news is reporting that Street has asked for a recount in the West Midlands mayoral race
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Post by moby on May 4, 2024 15:25:42 GMT
Kate Ferguson @kateferguson4 BREAKING:
Sources from the West Mids count suggesting Andy Street has lost by around 2,000 to 3,000 votes
This is around the same number he won by in 2017.
V close race
Please note - this is not yet confirmed ! 3:31 PM · May 4, 2024 · 20.3K Views
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Post by thylacine on May 4, 2024 15:25:42 GMT
BBC supporting Graham's suggestions re Birmingham count in that it is Andy Street that has requested the bundle checks. Certainly looking good for Labour. I’m missing Colin… Have you taken your meds?
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Post by thylacine on May 4, 2024 15:27:33 GMT
BBC supporting Graham's suggestions re Birmingham count in that it is Andy Street that has requested the bundle checks. Certainly looking good for Labour. I’m missing Colin… Colin will be sorry to miss out on all our celebrations.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 15:33:31 GMT
Certainly looking good for Labour. I’m missing Colin… Colin will be sorry to miss out on all our celebrations. I think he knew the game was up. Amazing to think that five years ago Johnson was assumed to be at least a two term Prime Minister. All his own fault that he fucked it all up so badly.
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Post by pjw1961 on May 4, 2024 15:51:23 GMT
Certainly looking good for Labour. I’m missing Colin… Have you taken your meds? I would agree with you if he had said he was missing Trevor.
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