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Post by leftieliberal on Oct 2, 2023 9:41:50 GMT
The last time Trevor started a new thread didn't Mark say that it was OK for anyone to start a new thread when required and allowed that thread to stand? I must admit I was rather surprised as if we can all start new threads whenever we like surely anarchy will ensue. I suggest that we all adopt a self-denying ordinance, ignore Mr Poppy and neilj 's new threads and continue posting on here. There is no need to create a new thread every month.
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Post by steve on Oct 2, 2023 9:45:47 GMT
With current and soon to be ex Tory mps interviewing for jobs at Gbeebies it might be worth looking at some of the utter bollocks stated about its " huge" viewer base. Gbeebies managed a monthly viewing figure of 2.6 million in August it's highest , BBC news at six has 3.6 million viewers a day news at ten 3.4 million a day Itv evening news 2.5 million a day Channel 4 news averages around 9 million a month. BBC news Channel 12.1 million a month and Sky news 9.3 million. Sky sports news , a separate channel on its own has nearly double the audience of GBeebies. But the anonymous backers behind the hedge fund that owns GBeebies have deep pockets and a love for right wing loons. Here's right wing wacko Priti Patel using the Tory conference to stream her claim for GBeebies wonga. youtu.be/WSYJUtHgTgY?si=AtEjaFTblG6ys6QM
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Post by pete on Oct 2, 2023 9:46:36 GMT
Sounds like (just stop Colin crying)Hunt is going to cut benefits if people won't work. Listen to JOB on LBC and some of his callers and you've a lot of ill people calling in petrified the Tories are coming after them.
Anecdote. I know a man whose had 2 heart attacks whose consultant has told him he can no longer work but DWP have said he must continue working...guess who wins that one?
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Post by steve on Oct 2, 2023 9:57:21 GMT
somerjohnNo need to apologise it matches our experience way back in the 1990's when we lived there and ever since on return visits. Back in the 90's we employed a cleaner as we were both working long hours I found her outside the house regularly cleaning the pavement, asked why she was doing this she replied "porque es nuestro pueblo" People take pride in their communities and this is reflected to a significant extent in the priorities of local government.
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Post by domjg on Oct 2, 2023 9:57:41 GMT
The last time Trevor started a new thread didn't Mark say that it was OK for anyone to start a new thread when required and allowed that thread to stand? I must admit I was rather surprised as if we can all start new threads whenever we like surely anarchy will ensue. I suggest that we all adopt a self-denying ordinance, ignore Mr Poppy and neilj 's new threads and continue posting on here. There is no need to create a new thread every month. I understand neilj being tempted to counter Trev's opening a new thread on the Opinium poll as Trev clearly did it simply because it was less Lab friendly than the rest but come on, one person needs to be responsible for this or at least it needs to be clear when and how a new thread should be started. At least last time @mark gave the green light to use Trev's new thread. Opening new threads left, right and centre isn't going to work, @mark should clarify this.
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Post by steve on Oct 2, 2023 9:58:30 GMT
peteI think you have a typo there it should read Jeremy C***
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Post by lululemonmustdobetter on Oct 2, 2023 9:59:37 GMT
All, neil has started a new thread for poll on 2nd October.
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Post by steve on Oct 2, 2023 10:01:08 GMT
colinWho do you think is Cuthbert Cringeworthy careful!☺
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 10:01:18 GMT
I think poor old Mark 's in a difficult situation. If he endorses the rogue new thread I'll use it, but if he doesn't I'll stay here until he starts a new one. I don't know what a moderator's powers are. For instance is it possible to stop someone starting a new thread in 'General Discussion' without also stopping them from starting a thread in 'Issue Specific'. If not, and a member was prevented from starting any new threads it could be seen to be unfair. I expect he's waiting to see where majority sympathy lies. I'm glad I'm not the moderator but will abide by whatever he says. He seems to be a good egg (if I'm still allowed to say that in case it offends bad eggs). 🤣 Mark seems relaxed about it. I think Trevor only does it to wind up the Bash Street Kids. Never fails-their obsession with him is bizarre. Actually it would be refreshing to have some threads to choose from rather than one never ending Groundhog Day
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Post by steve on Oct 2, 2023 10:03:36 GMT
Can we have a guidance from Mark on which post should be primary happy to use Neil's
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 10:04:08 GMT
Sounds like Cunt is going to cut benefits if people won't work. When you grow up you will be able to converse without shouting female genitalia words in the street.
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Post by domjg on Oct 2, 2023 10:07:37 GMT
Can we have a guidance from Mark on which post should be primary happy to use Neil's How do you '@' Mark? It doesn't seem to work for me with or without an upper case M. As admin he ought to be easier to tag!
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Post by johntel on Oct 2, 2023 10:09:43 GMT
Danny: "Living as I do in a seaside town, I wondered what is the situation regarding parking in Spain?"The seaside town where we have our flat in Spain, which like many has grown enormously since it was a fishing harbour with nearby hill town back in the 1960s, has an absolutely thriving town centre. I think there are several reasons for this. The first and most important is that residential and commercial space is integrated. The typicaL pattern is of medium-rise (7 or 8 stories) apartment blocks with shops and offices on the ground floor, underground parking below, and flats above. There are large supermarkets in the town centre as well as on the periphery, and they too have underground parking (and sometimes above the sales floor too). There is on-street parking which is metered but low cost (20c for 20 minutes) but discounted for residents and free afternoons and overnight). That set-up supports hundreds of independent shops, restaurants and bars, and just outside the central area there's a surprising amount of small-scale manufacturing and hands-on stuff in mixed residential areas - carpentry, window-making, laundries, repair shops etc. There are virtually no empty premises and few 'fill-ins' like charity shops. A few vape stores, though. Despite the huge disparity in peak seasonal population (maybe a 20,000 winter core, swelling to 100k in summer), the town remains busy off-season with most shops etc open year-round, helped by the town's usefulness as a commercial hub for surrounding villages and urbanizaciones.Summer visitor peak parking is rationed by charging for Jul-Aug on-street parking behind the sea front and the availability of several large, free overspill surface carparks further back (unsurfaced and unmarked) for those who prefer to walk a few hundred metres to the beach. All in all, it works remarkably well. Of course, it helps that all this activity generates plenty of council income. And it's abundantly clear how this revenue is spent - not only loads of street cleaners, gardeners and refuse collectors, but constant pro-active maintenance. For instance, last year the entire road network in the town centre was resurfaced. Not just surface-dressed, but scoured to the base, thickly re-tarmacked, kerbs repaired and re-aligned, manhole covers re-levelled. It took about six weeks, with a large workforce, loads of specialised equipment and immaculate planning of street-by-street work. Not only must the costs of doing it that way, averaged over the years, be much lower than UK-style minimal patch-up, but the result is a town that looks and feels on top of things. In short, it's the antithesis of austerity. Which is why I wish our brexit apologists could come, see and learn. (Apologies for what is probably my longest ever post). I've enjoyed living and working in places like that in Spain myself. It's the revenue from rich foreign retirees, people from Madrid with 2nd homes and tourists that generates the revenue that pays for it all to be so nice - you're privileged to be able to choose to live there. There are lots of equally nice places on the coast around the UK - it's got nothing to do with Brexit.
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Post by pete on Oct 2, 2023 10:10:25 GMT
Sounds like Cunt is going to cut benefits if people won't work. When you grow up you will be able to converse without shouting female genitalia words in the street. See, I knew the caring Colin would come out on show. Sod those that are going to suffer, they deserve it hey? You'd rather act like child about the use of the ' c' word. A that you can hear on nearly every TV show after the watershed. You really are a snide nasty little man. The Tories suite you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 10:11:11 GMT
Can we have a guidance from Mark on which post should be primary happy to use Neil's How do you '@' Mark? It doesn't seem to work for me with or without an upper case M. As admin he ought to be easier to tag! hover over his name -its "admin" with @ infront. Going to have a nice complain about Trevor ?
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Post by pete on Oct 2, 2023 10:12:43 GMT
Anyway, I apologise for offending anyone by my use of the 'c' word. Tories can apologise for their attacks on the weakest in society.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 10:12:55 GMT
I've enjoyed living and working in places like that in Spain myself. It's the revenue from rich foreign retirees, people from Madrid with 2nd homes and tourists that generates the revenue that pays for it all to be so nice - you're privileged to be able to choose to live there. There are lots of equally nice places on the coast around the UK - it's got nothing to do with Brexit. I refrained from that observation and await the tirade coming your way from the Freedom of Movement fans.
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Post by lululemonmustdobetter on Oct 2, 2023 10:14:32 GMT
Can we have a guidance from Mark on which post should be primary happy to use Neil's As trev posted on the thread he started - Mark's guidance was to use the most recent, which is Neil's.
Suggest we all start acting a bit more sensibly and follow what Mark intended.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 10:15:07 GMT
See, I knew the caring Colin would come out on show. Sod those that are going to suffer, they deserve it hey? Don't be ridiculous. You know nothing about me .
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Post by pete on Oct 2, 2023 10:16:52 GMT
Danny: "Living as I do in a seaside town, I wondered what is the situation regarding parking in Spain?"The seaside town where we have our flat in Spain, which like many has grown enormously since it was a fishing harbour with nearby hill town back in the 1960s, has an absolutely thriving town centre. I think there are several reasons for this. The first and most important is that residential and commercial space is integrated. The typicaL pattern is of medium-rise (7 or 8 stories) apartment blocks with shops and offices on the ground floor, underground parking below, and flats above. There are large supermarkets in the town centre as well as on the periphery, and they too have underground parking (and sometimes above the sales floor too). There is on-street parking which is metered but low cost (20c for 20 minutes) but discounted for residents and free afternoons and overnight). That set-up supports hundreds of independent shops, restaurants and bars, and just outside the central area there's a surprising amount of small-scale manufacturing and hands-on stuff in mixed residential areas - carpentry, window-making, laundries, repair shops etc. There are virtually no empty premises and few 'fill-ins' like charity shops. A few vape stores, though. Despite the huge disparity in peak seasonal population (maybe a 20,000 winter core, swelling to 100k in summer), the town remains busy off-season with most shops etc open year-round, helped by the town's usefulness as a commercial hub for surrounding villages and urbanizaciones.Summer visitor peak parking is rationed by charging for Jul-Aug on-street parking behind the sea front and the availability of several large, free overspill surface carparks further back (unsurfaced and unmarked) for those who prefer to walk a few hundred metres to the beach. All in all, it works remarkably well. Of course, it helps that all this activity generates plenty of council income. And it's abundantly clear how this revenue is spent - not only loads of street cleaners, gardeners and refuse collectors, but constant pro-active maintenance. For instance, last year the entire road network in the town centre was resurfaced. Not just surface-dressed, but scoured to the base, thickly re-tarmacked, kerbs repaired and re-aligned, manhole covers re-levelled. It took about six weeks, with a large workforce, loads of specialised equipment and immaculate planning of street-by-street work. Not only must the costs of doing it that way, averaged over the years, be much lower than UK-style minimal patch-up, but the result is a town that looks and feels on top of things. In short, it's the antithesis of austerity. Which is why I wish our brexit apologists could come, see and learn. (Apologies for what is probably my longest ever post). I've enjoyed living and working in places like that in Spain myself. It's the revenue from rich foreign retirees, people from Madrid with 2nd homes and tourists that generates the revenue that pays for it all to be so nice - you're privileged to be able to choose to live there. There are lots of equally nice places on the coast around the UK - it's got nothing to do with Brexit. But if you wish to live abroad it should be allowed, surely? brexit has made that extremely harder, yes?
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Post by domjg on Oct 2, 2023 10:17:06 GMT
Danny: "Living as I do in a seaside town, I wondered what is the situation regarding parking in Spain?"The seaside town where we have our flat in Spain, which like many has grown enormously since it was a fishing harbour with nearby hill town back in the 1960s, has an absolutely thriving town centre. I think there are several reasons for this. The first and most important is that residential and commercial space is integrated. The typicaL pattern is of medium-rise (7 or 8 stories) apartment blocks with shops and offices on the ground floor, underground parking below, and flats above. There are large supermarkets in the town centre as well as on the periphery, and they too have underground parking (and sometimes above the sales floor too). There is on-street parking which is metered but low cost (20c for 20 minutes) but discounted for residents and free afternoons and overnight). That set-up supports hundreds of independent shops, restaurants and bars, and just outside the central area there's a surprising amount of small-scale manufacturing and hands-on stuff in mixed residential areas - carpentry, window-making, laundries, repair shops etc. There are virtually no empty premises and few 'fill-ins' like charity shops. A few vape stores, though. Despite the huge disparity in peak seasonal population (maybe a 20,000 winter core, swelling to 100k in summer), the town remains busy off-season with most shops etc open year-round, helped by the town's usefulness as a commercial hub for surrounding villages and urbanizaciones.Summer visitor peak parking is rationed by charging for Jul-Aug on-street parking behind the sea front and the availability of several large, free overspill surface carparks further back (unsurfaced and unmarked) for those who prefer to walk a few hundred metres to the beach. All in all, it works remarkably well. Of course, it helps that all this activity generates plenty of council income. And it's abundantly clear how this revenue is spent - not only loads of street cleaners, gardeners and refuse collectors, but constant pro-active maintenance. For instance, last year the entire road network in the town centre was resurfaced. Not just surface-dressed, but scoured to the base, thickly re-tarmacked, kerbs repaired and re-aligned, manhole covers re-levelled. It took about six weeks, with a large workforce, loads of specialised equipment and immaculate planning of street-by-street work. Not only must the costs of doing it that way, averaged over the years, be much lower than UK-style minimal patch-up, but the result is a town that looks and feels on top of things. In short, it's the antithesis of austerity. Which is why I wish our brexit apologists could come, see and learn. (Apologies for what is probably my longest ever post). I've enjoyed living and working in places like that in Spain myself. It's the revenue from rich foreign retirees, people from Madrid with 2nd homes and tourists that generates the revenue that pays for it all to be so nice - you're privileged to be able to choose to live there. There are lots of equally nice places on the coast around the UK - it's got nothing to do with Brexit. "There are lots of equally nice places on the coast around the UK" - Where in England, except Devon/Cornwall and Brighton? Of course brexit will have had a significant impact on on-going austerity and will continue to over time as simply put less investment over time means less tax take over time.
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Post by pete on Oct 2, 2023 10:18:32 GMT
See, I knew the caring Colin would come out on show. Sod those that are going to suffer, they deserve it hey? Don't be ridiculous. You know nothing about me . But you think you know me? You certainly seem to think you can insult without getting it back.
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Post by domjg on Oct 2, 2023 10:19:37 GMT
Can we have a guidance from Mark on which post should be primary happy to use Neil's As trev posted on the thread he started - Mark's guidance was to use the most recent, which is Neil's.
Suggest we all start acting a bit more sensibly and follow what Mark intended.What happens if one of us decides to open a new thread every few days?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 10:20:38 GMT
Don't be ridiculous. You know nothing about me . But you think you know me? You certainly seem to think you can insult without getting it back. Yours was the insult. I helpfully explained that your childish vocabulary will not last forever.
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Post by pete on Oct 2, 2023 10:21:25 GMT
Can we have a guidance from Mark on which post should be primary happy to use Neil's As trev posted on the thread he started - Mark's guidance was to use the most recent, which is Neil's.
Suggest we all start acting a bit more sensibly and follow what Mark intended.Hang on, there's now 3 threads going? Can't people just let Mark start the main general discussion thread and start their own issue only threads,so much easier, you know like the old days...last week.
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Post by lululemonmustdobetter on Oct 2, 2023 10:23:38 GMT
As trev posted on the thread he started - Mark's guidance was to use the most recent, which is Neil's.
Suggest we all start acting a bit more sensibly and follow what Mark intended. What happens if one of us decides to open a new thread every few days? Well if people act as adults and ignore people being childish it shouldn't happen, and ultimately if it gets out of hand Mark can intervene.
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Post by pete on Oct 2, 2023 10:25:20 GMT
But you think you know me? You certainly seem to think you can insult without getting it back. Yours was the insult. I helpfully explained that your childish vocabulary will not last forever. Yes, I noted you got upset by that particular word but nothing about people going to be made to suffer. Hope you don't watch TV after 9. Personally, if I was you I wouldn't go down the childish route, you've no self awareness, son. Anyway, leaving you in the play ground now. Run to teacher if anyone upsets you.
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Post by thylacine on Oct 2, 2023 10:25:43 GMT
Mark moderates with an extremely light touch and it has worked for the most part to keep the group cohesive and alive. The current situation does however need sorting. It is interesting though that Trevor has self excluded himself from the main group in almost a self banning manoeuvre. I suggest we keep posting here until Mark arrives.
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Post by thylacine on Oct 2, 2023 10:29:01 GMT
As trev posted on the thread he started - Mark's guidance was to use the most recent, which is Neil's.
Suggest we all start acting a bit more sensibly and follow what Mark intended. Hang on, there's now 3 threads going? Can't people just let Mark start the main general discussion thread and start their own issue only threads,so much easier, you know like the old days...last week. Colin has also posted a new new thread. Possibly to segregate the use of swear words associated with body parts. It could get rather unpleasant in there!
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Post by domjg on Oct 2, 2023 10:31:05 GMT
What happens if one of us decides to open a new thread every few days? Well if people act as adults and ignore people being childish it shouldn't happen, and ultimately if it gets out of hand Mark can intervene.Indeed. So most of us ignored the new trev thread and continued to use Mark's 11 August one. The question esp the rocs might then ask is why should we then use neilj's and not trev's? Is it just a partisan thing?
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