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Post by moby on Sept 3, 2022 9:00:12 GMT
Not at lunchtime today though  |
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Post by crossbat11 on Sept 3, 2022 9:02:36 GMT
Jeez, Col. The wrath of Carfers awaits you. Not. 🤣👍 Of course not. I think Corbyn should be open to criticism, same as Starmer, Tories, Wasps, public school liberals posing as lefties etc. Preferably fair criticism of course. Maybe even some data! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Or rather, in UKPR vernacular, the day satire really did well and truly die. |
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Post by crossbat11 on Sept 3, 2022 9:05:32 GMT
Not at lunchtime today though Toffeemen to get a point in my weekly prediction competition with my elder brother 1-1. You heard it here first. |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Sept 3, 2022 9:14:36 GMT
Of course not. I think Corbyn should be open to criticism, same as Starmer, Tories, Wasps, public school liberals posing as lefties etc. Preferably fair criticism of course. Maybe even some data! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Or rather, in UKPR vernacular, the day satire really did due. It will never die while you are still around! Too much material… |
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Post by crossbat11 on Sept 3, 2022 9:19:01 GMT
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Or rather, in UKPR vernacular, the day satire really did due. It will never die while you are still around! Too much material… Carfers, you old dog, you got in too quickly and before I amended my typo. Not like you to miss a microsecond of UKPR activity. I trust you will amend your archives accordingly for future reference. 😁🤔 |
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Post by moby on Sept 3, 2022 9:30:57 GMT
It will never die while you are still around! Too much material… Carfers, you old dog, you got in too quickly and before I amended my typo. Not like you to miss a microsecond of UKPR activity. I trust you will amend your archives accordingly for future reference. 😁🤔 |
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Post by domjg on Sept 3, 2022 9:33:28 GMT
c-a-r-f-r-e-w Just for the avoidance of any doubt, I went to a decidedly rubbish comprehensive so I guess that means I can be a real leftie as it seems people who went to public schools are not allowed to choose to be in your book.
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Sept 3, 2022 9:35:18 GMT
It will never die while you are still around! Too much material… Carfers, you old dog, you got in too quickly and before I amended my typo. Not like you to miss a microsecond of UKPR activity. I trust you will amend your archives accordingly for future reference. 😁🤔 Well of course I don’t miss it while I’m sat here posting. But I’m not sat here nearly all day every day like some people of a towpath-cruising disposition. |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Sept 3, 2022 9:36:48 GMT
c-a-r-f-r-e-w Just for the avoidance of any doubt, I went to a decidedly rubbish comprehensive so I guess that means I can be a real leftie as it seems people who went to public schools are not allowed to choose to be in your book. Nah, you didn’t read it right, again. |
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Post by somerjohn on Sept 3, 2022 9:41:20 GMT
Colin: "I don't think we understand the gravity of the situation yet"Well, it's coming up to a year since I first flagged the gas issue up on UKPR1. A prophet before my time...
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"It’s interesting to see what stories make the news in different countries.
For instance, for several weeks the rising price of electricity, reflecting the price of natural gas, has made front page headlines in Spain and been a pressure-point on government.
The same price pressures exist here, with the wholesale price of natural gas currently 155 p/therm, compared with 28 p/therm a year ago. That’s a 453% rise in a year.
True, compared with Spain our pricing system for retail energy has a much bigger lag, but that just means we’re in for not only mega increases in gas and electricity bills (think 100%, not just 2 or 3%) but a potential crisis of bust energy suppliers unable to recoup these costs fast enough.
Maybe we’ll be saved by a sudden collapse in gas prices, but that seems unlikely as demand ramps up towards winter.
And yet this isn’t a story. One day a paper will twig what’s happening, the herd will follow and it will be a hot issue, endlessly debated on UKPR.
September 13th, 2021 at 3:21 pm"
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The only response was Alec's, " somerjohn – watching that one with interest. The British media is, as you say, terribly slow on the uptake. " |
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Post by jib on Sept 3, 2022 9:45:37 GMT
Jeez, Col. The wrath of Carfers awaits you. Not. 🤣👍 Of course not. I think Corbyn should be open to criticism, same as Starmer, Tories, Wasps, public school liberals posing as lefties, or even as “centrists” etc. Preferably fair criticism of course. Maybe even some data! Isn't comrade Corbyn the archetypal public school boy who discovered socialism? Corbyn went to Castle House School; an independent preparatory day school for boys and girls, first established in 1944, at Chetwynd End, Newport, Shropshire. |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Sept 3, 2022 9:50:09 GMT
Of course not. I think Corbyn should be open to criticism, same as Starmer, Tories, Wasps, public school liberals posing as lefties, or even as “centrists” etc. Preferably fair criticism of course. Maybe even some data! Isn't comrade Corbyn the archetypal public school boy who discovered socialism? Corbyn went to Castle House School; an independent preparatory day school for boys and girls, first established in 1944, at Chetwynd End, Newport, Shropshire. To point out that some public school liberals might pose as lefties (or even centrists), is not the same as saying no public school folk can be left wing. Quite a few lefties went to public school. Tony Benn went to Westminster I think. |
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Post by robbiealive on Sept 3, 2022 9:58:41 GMT
Colin: "I don't think we understand the gravity of the situation yet"Well, it's coming up to a year since I first flagged the gas issue up on UKPR1. A prophet before my time...
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The only response was Alec's, " somerjohn – watching that one with interest. The British media is, as you say, terribly slow on the uptake. " Congatulations. Evidence that knowledge of the EU broadens the mind or at least its content. UKPR1 had as number of regulars who prohesised events after they had occurred. Someone also was quick to spot food price inflation as a big issue. Was that you? Has the football season started yet? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2022 10:03:25 GMT
Colin: "I don't think we understand the gravity of the situation yet"Well, it's coming up to a year since I first flagged the gas issue up on UKPR1. A prophet before my time...
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"It’s interesting to see what stories make the news in different countries.
For instance, for several weeks the rising price of electricity, reflecting the price of natural gas, has made front page headlines in Spain and been a pressure-point on government.
The same price pressures exist here, with the wholesale price of natural gas currently 155 p/therm, compared with 28 p/therm a year ago. That’s a 453% rise in a year.
True, compared with Spain our pricing system for retail energy has a much bigger lag, but that just means we’re in for not only mega increases in gas and electricity bills (think 100%, not just 2 or 3%) but a potential crisis of bust energy suppliers unable to recoup these costs fast enough.
Maybe we’ll be saved by a sudden collapse in gas prices, but that seems unlikely as demand ramps up towards winter.
And yet this isn’t a story. One day a paper will twig what’s happening, the herd will follow and it will be a hot issue, endlessly debated on UKPR.
September 13th, 2021 at 3:21 pm"
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The only response was Alec's, " somerjohn – watching that one with interest. The British media is, as you say, terribly slow on the uptake. " Do you think that the reality and consequences of Putin's subsequent actions in Germany and Ukraine could have been imagined then ? Or fully understood now ? chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.oxfordenergy.org/wpcms/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Surging-2021-European-Gas-Prices-%E2%80%93-Why-and-How.pdf ( copy and paste into Google if not clickable) |
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Post by leftieliberal on Sept 3, 2022 10:05:18 GMT
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Post by davem on Sept 3, 2022 10:26:26 GMT
Well, shiver me timbers. Mrs Starmer, get measuring those Downing Street curtains! Looking at the tables on this poll there are some very sobering numbers, Tories still have a big lead with the over 65’s, but that is before they feel the hit of energy prices. The under 24’s show only 9% support for the Tories. The south outside London, is almost as strong for Labour as the north! While this is one poll from a polling company which doesn’t have a long history and it is probably an outlier the underlying data looks very concerning for the Toriesand if this is the direction of travel there could be several surprises come the GE. |
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Post by somerjohn on Sept 3, 2022 10:58:03 GMT
Colin: "Do you think that the reality and consequences of Putin's subsequent actions in Germany and Ukraine could have been imagined then ?"
No.
But I was talking about the clearly evident, but ignored in UK discourse, surge in gas prices in Autumn '21. And the looming crisis in energy bills when the lagged UK system caught up with market prices. The great flood of failures amongst energy suppliers had nothing to do with events that would transpire in Ukraine 6 months later.
My other point was that by focussing so much on intra-UK navel-gazing, and dismissing developments in our neighbours as irrelevant or uninteresting, we (as in media, but also the collective running of the country) risk missing a trick in spotting hazards in timely fashion.
The combination of narrow, self-absorbed media focus and a government that acts largely on the basis of reacting to media pressure is a dangerous one. That was my wider point back then.
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Post by robbiealive on Sept 3, 2022 11:08:29 GMT
Well said. You were observibg trends here and abroad not pretending to be a soothsaying Nostredamus. Im sure most posters realised that.
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Post by jib on Sept 3, 2022 11:10:41 GMT
Isn't comrade Corbyn the archetypal public school boy who discovered socialism? Corbyn went to Castle House School; an independent preparatory day school for boys and girls, first established in 1944, at Chetwynd End, Newport, Shropshire. To point out that some public school liberals might pose as lefties (or even centrists), is not the same as saying no public school folk can be left wing. Quite a few lefties went to public school. Tony Benn went to Westminster I think. Maybe not. But likely to be of the prescriptive variety rather than someone who has lived through poverty. |
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Post by crossbat11 on Sept 3, 2022 11:28:53 GMT
Well of course I don’t miss it while I’m sat here posting. But I’m not sat here nearly all day every day like some people of a towpath-cruising disposition. Lol. P.S. Before I disappear for the afternoon's sporting shenanigans, I must commend you for what I think is the most hilarious piece of irony, intended or unintended, it doesn't matter, that I've ever read, even by your standards. "The Telegraph isn't much cop for poverty alleviation". Well, obvs Carfers, obvs. |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Sept 3, 2022 12:00:42 GMT
P.S. Before I disappear for the afternoon's sporting shenanigans, I must commend you for what I think is the most hilarious piece of irony, intended or unintended, it doesn't matter, that I've ever read, even by your standards. "The Telegraph isn't much cop for poverty alleviation". Well, obvs Carfers, obvs. Well, in your rush to try and drum up something from almost my every post, you are overreaching again. The irony, if that’s what you want to call it, had its source in Domjg, who commented on the Telegraph re: poverty. I was just acknowledging it. |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Sept 3, 2022 12:02:18 GMT
To point out that some public school liberals might pose as lefties (or even centrists), is not the same as saying no public school folk can be left wing. Quite a few lefties went to public school. Tony Benn went to Westminster I think. Maybe not. But likely to be of the prescriptive variety rather than someone who has lived through poverty. Ah, I see what you mean. In fact it may go further than that, because at some private schools, mixing with locals was rather discouraged, so they could be kind of screened off from a lot. |
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Post by alec on Sept 3, 2022 12:52:06 GMT
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Post by oldnat on Sept 3, 2022 13:31:56 GMT
Celtic 4 - 0 Rangers
As an Aberdeen supporter, I am dispassionate about a game involving Glasgow teams - I don't care who wins, as long as Rangers lose.
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Post by RAF on Sept 3, 2022 13:37:34 GMT
Celtic 4 - 0 Rangers
As an Aberdeen supporter, I am dispassionate about a game involving Glasgow teams - I don't care who wins, as long as Rangers lose. So not entirely dispassionate... |
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Post by oldnat on Sept 3, 2022 13:54:21 GMT
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Post by steve on Sept 3, 2022 13:56:52 GMT
c-a-r-f-r-e-w I'm about as lefty as liberals get ( i.e. not very), went to a comprehensive and quite like wasps and Kier Starmer! Spoilt it a tad by doing a law masters at the LSE So I get to be a lefty liberal or a liberal lefty?
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Post by davwel on Sept 3, 2022 14:35:17 GMT
It looked to me that the Southern English who refer to private schools as public schools had taken over this thread today, and even ON has given up on the pressure for using terms clear to all.
And there has been no interest in Trump`s absence from our country, and his reasons for it. So I am chipping in with my observations on Menie, which I visited this morning.
At the golf course, I couldn`t spot any player on the course at 11.30 am, and the car park at the clubhouse was at most 20% filled. The whole place, entrance drive, and Macleod House, looked immaculately managed in its gardening, mowing, trimming. This must cost heavily and cause the large financial loss.
I also drove down rough tracks in the South of the estate, unchanged since I did some assessments pre the Golf and Hotel applications, and updated some plant recording. I spoke to a resident - no knowledge on when Trump might pay a visit.
But significantly between the posh golf course entrance and the track I went down east, half mile to the south, there is another track off that has a large sign up on the "main road": Construction HGVs Only. But its entrance gate was barred up, and the track beyond overgrown with weeds and bushes; so no recent use. Hence the second golf course is on hold.
I suspect that Trump is only keeping on this losing Aberdeenshire investment for his prestige and possibly US tax reasons. It was a rash purchase, and his money would have been better spent in Ayrshire. This northern course appears half surrounded by urbanism, rubbish tips, and very visible wind turbines, besides being plagued by overhead helicopters. And it can be cold
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Post by jimjam on Sept 3, 2022 14:59:01 GMT
ON - thanks for the panelbase.
Those constituency numbers are clearly within MOE of what other polling evidence (even the albeit flawed aggregated cross-breaks) is showing for Westminster.
SNP mid 40s, Lab early 20s and Tories late teens, LDs don't know tbh but must be close as the other are.
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Post by steve on Sept 3, 2022 15:37:54 GMT
In Spain train journeys under 300kms are free until the end of 2022
In France energy price rises are capped at 4%
In Germany public transport is a flat rate charge of €9 a month.
In brexitania the regime urges the inmates to buy a new kettle.
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