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Post by robbiealive on Aug 20, 2022 15:41:06 GMT
I-am-determined-to-win-the-hyphen-count.This-is-because-I-want-my-gold-star. have hyphenated my name, that way I get half-a-dozen hyphens in every post without any bother. (And it therefore retrospectively adds hyphens to all the old posts) (So that’s 1302 posts, times 6 hyphens each. So far…) 🥂 Is there a technical term for a mathematical manipulation which raises the value of an array of cases (1,302) from zero (0) & in some cases a minus value (-0) to a known & equal value (6).
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Post by steve on Aug 20, 2022 16:00:32 GMT
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Aug 20, 2022 16:08:06 GMT
have hyphenated my name, that way I get half-a-dozen hyphens in every post without any bother. (And it therefore retrospectively adds hyphens to all the old posts) (So that’s 1302 posts, times 6 hyphens each. So far…) 🥂 Is there a technical term for a mathematical manipulation which raises the value of an array of cases (1,302) from zero (0) & in some cases a minus value (-0) to a known & equal value (6). Is it a most-hyphen-rich term though
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Post by ladyvalerie on Aug 20, 2022 16:21:29 GMT
I-am-determined-to-win-the-hyphen-count.This-is-because-I-want-my-gold-star. I’m afraid you’re disqualified because you didn’t spot the deliberate mistake. gold star does not need a hyphen ⭐️
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 16:45:39 GMT
Eagles due a comfy home win I think (hope) 3-1 despite letting in a very early goal ...what used to be called a "facile" win
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Post by jimjam on Aug 20, 2022 16:51:58 GMT
As per LL 19 polls out of 20 will be within 3% of the 'real' picture for values 30%+.
An Outlier would be a one of those 19 but at the edges of moe so the YG 43/28 YG could be one such varying from 40/31.
There is a 1 in 20 (roughly) chance that the 43/28 could be a rogue poll; as indeed could the 1% YG lead a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by steve on Aug 20, 2022 17:27:59 GMT
Reports that care homes face a shortage of 160000 staff primarily because the caring European union citizens who worked there decided that the hostile xenophobia of brexitania wasn't for them , left during covid and won't be returning.
The regime seemingly want to cover the shortfall from India and the Philippines.
Shame jib's apparently done a bunk as I would be interested how he thinks it's an advantage to entice staff from half way around the world from low income countries with a ludicrously complex and expensive visa system , rather than simply putting up a help wanted advert and use freedom of movement to fill the posts from within Europe.
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Post by Danny on Aug 20, 2022 18:03:48 GMT
Remarkable lack of movement considering their previous poll was 6/7 weeks ago. Perhaps suggesting a hardening of the LAB lead at a slightly higher level than was the case a couple of months ago? The long leadership contest might have seemed a good idea with free publicity, but maybe the candidates are being ridiculed for their crazy statements. Plus the loss of rump johnson suporters. There have been quite a few nice things said about him since he agreed to go, which makes it look like they just railroaded a good chap.
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Post by Danny on Aug 20, 2022 18:24:42 GMT
c-a-r-f-r-e-w - when I last checked in July, the NHS was around 4% down on staffing due to long covid and current covid sick leave. That takes a toll even before the elevated pressures from high community infections and ward isolations etc. I also saw data showing that more school days were lost due to covid year than in the same period last year - but those advocating against the massive impacts of lockdown were silent on this. some all time record absences were recorded in schools early 2020 with symptoms identical to covid. Before it was supposed to have artived in the uk. And then there was total absence from schools while they were shut for lockdown. When schools reopened in the autumn those in northern england which caught covid later, spreading from the south, had a resumed wave. Those in the south did not- indicating they were already immune because they had already had it. .Total bollocks closing the schools, which was way too late in the south and never did any good in the north because it just resumed where it had left off. There is a very easy way to get things back to normal, which has always been for safe groups to treat covid as just another cold/flu and carry on working if they can. As to the efficacy of locknown, kids were one if the best protected groups in the country because they had no reason to go out. Adults still needed to attend to living necessities or work. Was it about ten million people still working much as normal because there are so many essential jobs? Maybe 1/3 of people still out and about or socialising at work or having office parties as per normal?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 18:29:59 GMT
Reports that care homes face a shortage of 160000 staff primarily because the caring European union citizens who worked there decided that the hostile xenophobia of brexitania wasn't for them , left during covid and won't be returning. The regime seemingly want to cover the shortfall from India and the Philippines. Shame jib's apparently done a bunk as I would be interested how he thinks it's an advantage to entice staff from half way around the world from low income countries with a ludicrously complex and expensive visa system , rather than simply putting up a help wanted advert and use freedom of movement to fill the posts from within Europe. He thinks you should get over it Steve. We’re a free country now, no longer shackled to ……. sorry, I’ve lost my thread.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 18:31:23 GMT
Eagles due a comfy home win I think (hope) 3-1 despite letting in a very early goal ...what used to be called a "facile" win I’ve got no internet, tv, radio or friends Nick - dunno how the Arse did, do you?
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Post by pjw1961 on Aug 20, 2022 18:53:11 GMT
3-1 despite letting in a very early goal ...what used to be called a "facile" win I’ve got no internet, tv, radio or friends Nick - dunno how the Arse did, do you? They are continuing to pretend to be quite good - same as Spurs are. Can't last.
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Post by Mark on Aug 20, 2022 18:56:15 GMT
Last night's tory leadership hustings...both candidates pledged to "scrap the remaining EU rules" - IE, those that were copied as-is into UK law and could then be amended on an as-and-when needed basis.
Sunak givig an 18 month timeframe, Truss pledging to do it "by 2023". In other words, in less than 100 days of parliament sitting.
Assuming that "scrap" actually means "amend" as, if they're talking about simply scrapping them with no replacement, we're deep into la-la land...
Certainly in Truss's case, there simply won't be enough parliamentry time - or is it the case that these rules that her and others got into such a lather about and are so, so, so important, are amended on the hoof, just for the sake of it, without even any parliamentary scrutiny?
Jesus.
You know what this feels like? It feels like when you played shop as a little kid, lining up various things to "sell" and cut out some cardboard coins...and your Nan didn't have the right cardboard money...but, ultimately it didn't matter as you were only playing.
That's what it feels like.
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Post by hireton on Aug 20, 2022 19:08:19 GMT
Opinium:
12 pt lead or more in Opinium old money?
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Post by hireton on Aug 20, 2022 19:09:43 GMT
Truss not scoring well in comparison to Starmer:
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Post by shevii on Aug 20, 2022 19:45:20 GMT
Truss not scoring well in comparison to Starmer: "None of these" still performing best! Those are different figures to R&W where Truss is ahead of Starmer and R&W shows more differentials between Sunak and Truss than Opinium is showing, although R&W may have moved this week as that seems to have been what has happened with other polling. Blindingly obvious that Labour saying no to further energy price increases and Tories chunnering on about tax cuts or something is what is moving the polls. Truss will have a very small window to come up with policy. I think Labour policy is so so and avoiding the elephant in the room of long term bringing energy producers under control either by nationalisation or legislation that achieves the same ends. But Labour are in opposition so they don't need to do that sort of detail and their policy does cover the short term fix. Voters will remember Labour had policy that would have kept their bills down so unless Truss follows suit then that's what voters will take from this.
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Post by pjw1961 on Aug 20, 2022 19:57:24 GMT
Opinium: 12 pt lead or more in Opinium old money? Earlier today I suggested confirmation of the YouGov might be found if Opinium showed a six to seven point lead. It's worth remembering this is their prediction after presumed swing-back. Starting to get interesting.
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Post by jimjam on Aug 20, 2022 19:58:41 GMT
Shevii, remember the 'at the moment' wording in the R&W best PM has produced better results for Tory leaders and possible leaders compared to the more conventional 'best PM' wording.
My take is that a few % of people think a Labour PM with a Tory HOC is not possible.
I think that too but were I on the R&W panel and chosen I would probably say Starmer anyhow to signal support; so perhaps many respondents recognise the wording dilemma but only 3%ish (so 6% swing) say a Tory when they would say Starmer for best PM.
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Post by shevii on Aug 20, 2022 20:01:54 GMT
I’ve got no internet, tv, radio or friends Nick - dunno how the Arse did, do you? You won't have seen that Wigan beat Birmingham City despite playing with 10 men for 80 minutes. I mean if City are meant to be the best team in the Birmingham area makes you wonder what the worst team is like.
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Post by crossbat11 on Aug 20, 2022 20:05:31 GMT
ladyvalerie Just dawned on me who the young Keir Starmer in your avatar reminds me of. The late Stuart Adamson, founder of the Skids and later lead guitarist/vocalist with Big Country. Born in Manchester but an adopted Scot. Saw Big Country at the NEC in the mid 80s. Adamson was superb. Sadly missed.
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Post by hireton on Aug 20, 2022 20:06:06 GMT
It seems incredible that this must have been briefed to the press as a serious idea but so it appears:
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Post by pjw1961 on Aug 20, 2022 20:13:43 GMT
The GP energy bill prescription thing won't do anyone much good in Braintree since it is close to impossible to get an appointment.
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Post by RAF on Aug 20, 2022 20:16:55 GMT
It seems incredible that this must have been briefed to the press as a serious idea but so it appears: It sounds like panic. This is not a serious idea, even to brief to the papers as one of a range of options.
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Post by hireton on Aug 20, 2022 20:22:12 GMT
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Post by alurqa on Aug 20, 2022 20:23:51 GMT
Reports that care homes face a shortage of 160000 staff primarily because the caring European union citizens who worked there decided that the hostile xenophobia of brexitania wasn't for them , left during covid and won't be returning. The regime seemingly want to cover the shortfall from India and the Philippines. Shame jib's apparently done a bunk as I would be interested how he thinks it's an advantage to entice staff from half way around the world from low income countries with a ludicrously complex and expensive visa system , rather than simply putting up a help wanted advert and use freedom of movement to fill the posts from within Europe. I thought we weren't going to let any more in, because that would force the care homes to put up their wages and make us a high wage economy. Didn't the brexiters say we may have to wait for things to get better? Are they now realising that it is their feet that they shot -- if they (as most of them were older) need a care home and the wages have to go up, they'll have to pay more?
Don't tell me, let me guess. Because we are a 'free country' we can do things like let lots of non-European foreigners in; but we can't do that if it's the Europeans telling us to. Still their party (I know there are some brexiters here who won't vote Tory) is doing a damned good job at now killing them off, because removing the NHS will mean they won't have to pay as much tax. 90 years old with a broken hip and the lady in Cornwall had to wait 40 hours for an ambulance. It is not a disgrace. It. Is. Disgusting.
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Post by crossbat11 on Aug 20, 2022 20:24:00 GMT
Eagles due a comfy home win I think (hope) 3-1 despite letting in a very early goal ...what used to be called a "facile" win It was looking good for 7 minutes as well. Despite my best efforts to only periodically check the Villa score via my transistor radio whilst watching the Forest Green game, aided thankfully by a non-existent network signal on my phone, I had a couple of talkative young Villa supporters sitting behind me, with a phone that mysteriously was working, giving everyone within earshot all the Premiership scores as they came in. "Olly has scored" was the best it got. There really is no escape these days although I did manage to avoid the final score. However, as soon as I exited the ground, my phone started pinging with delayed distraught messages from a number of Villa supporting mates. The first read "wtf is going on at Palace, we're getting battered". This was timed at 4.28pm. I feared the worst as I tuned in for the final scores! Anyway, well done to your boys. We were well beaten by all accounts. Impressed with Argyle today. Frustratingly, another promising Villa youngster currently on loan at Argyle, Finn Azaz, scored their first and set up their second. We've got about six or seven other academy products on loan in the Championship too. A couple are currently turning Norwich's form around. Another is tearing it up at Cardiff, scoring the winner against the Blues last week too! Stevie G take note. You meet some characters in the lower league footballing fraternity. I got chatting to the fellow next to me, as you do. A Derby County fan. I asked him where he lived. He replied, "The Turks and Caicos Islands." A convoluted tale ensued, but we ended up reminiscing about Clough and the old Baseball Ground. A good day.
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Post by oldnat on Aug 20, 2022 20:29:48 GMT
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"Looking at the polls on independence, there seems to be a shift from yes to DK"
Assuming that you are referring to Scots indy, are you being influence by the Techne poll of 30 June? They hadn't done a previous indy poll, so no shift can be measured.
Of the others with a recent poll -
MORI (29 May) shows Yes 45 (-7) : No 46 (+3) : DK 8 (+4) - brackets showing change since 29 Nov ComRes (28 June) shows Yes 44 (-1) : No 46 (-1) : DK 10 (+3) - brackets showing change since 3 May Panelbase (1 July) shows Yes 48 (+1) : No 47 (-2) : DK 5 (=) - brackets showing change since 6 May
I can't see consistent evidence for what you suggest. Of course, any party - on any side of any political divide - that is out of touch with voter opinion is likely to suffer as a consequence.
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Post by Mark on Aug 20, 2022 20:42:37 GMT
GP's to give out prescriptions for money off leccy bills?
Has Gove been passing his £20 note around?
As an aside...."Tin Lizzy" made me laugh...
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Post by pjw1961 on Aug 20, 2022 20:58:59 GMT
Truss not scoring well in comparison to Starmer: Compared to the previous Opinium on this question Starmer is +3 and Truss -6, converting a 1 point lead for Truss into a 8 point lead for Starmer. It seems the more people see of Truss the less they like her. Is that a "Bring Back Boris" campaign I hear?
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