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Post by alec on Aug 14, 2022 13:19:10 GMT
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Post by alec on Aug 14, 2022 13:21:43 GMT
Mark - this things about not commenting on people's relationships etc. Does this also relate to dogs? Asking for a friend. [Quite a few friends, by the sound of it. It's a worry. I blame isa]
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Post by moby on Aug 14, 2022 13:28:29 GMT
I gather the Villa did OK today. All is well in Aston for now. The faithful ushered in yet another season. My 59th. All's well in my world, wherever I may be when the Villa win. Hmmm.
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Post by davwel on Aug 14, 2022 13:37:07 GMT
@ carfrew Yesterday you were approving the satellite launcher being developed in Cornwall and the links that go to the facility were making claims on its uniqueness and being Britain`s first. I just wonder if they are forgetting the Scottish launchers being developed in Moray and Sutherland: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-61379577Or is there a race going on?
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Post by moby on Aug 14, 2022 13:41:14 GMT
And "Loose Women" has been a popular and successful TV discussion programme for over 20 years. Time moves on. As for Truss... I've read several accounts from people who worked with/for her that suggest she might be a bit mad, or a liability, or an ideologue. All of those concern me to various degrees. Whether she thinks other people's personal vows are theirs to worry about, really quite likes sex, or just does whatever not being "a lady" involves in your mind, I couldn't care less about. I agree that had the Currie affair come out in 1990 then Major might not have become leader. But a decade later, post-Clinton, post "IT'S PADDY PANTSDOWN!", I doubt any similar revelation would have particularly affected say William Hague in 2001. It feels positively archaic that we're even talking about it a further 20 years on, and I do wonder if you'd express this degree of concern over a male politician with a similar past. Personally I am appalled by politicians such as Johnson re- his philandering. I would never knowingly vote for an adulterer - nor indeed for a candidate who I knew to be cohabiting - or who had had kids out of wedlock.I have to seriously question whether Truss would not face very serious obstacles to becoming Tory leader were she to have Johnson's past - ie several kids out of wedlock with different partners plus rumoured abortions etc. Can you explain why you included 'cohabiting' above; I have cohabited with my partner for over 30 years. What's your problem with that?
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Post by JohnC on Aug 14, 2022 13:47:30 GMT
Re smart meters. I don't have one, I have an older gizmo, an owl, attached to my meter with a reader in my living room. It gives live usage information to me, rather than the supply company. Until the problems with smart meters are worked through, especially the difficulties if you are in a mobile blackspot and the non-transferability of the smart functions, it will remain a no from me. A friend agreed to have one fitted, but when they came to fit it, it was discovered that it could not work in the underground garage of his block of flats where the meters were situated. It hasn't stopped his supply company regularly harassing him to have one fitted. There continue to be regular articles in the Guardian and elsewhere where consumers are charged huge amounts for incorrect information being sent to the supplier by the smart meters. How can such a disfunctional system be made mandatory? I don't have a smart meter but was prompted to do some research on the issues which currently make them 'dysfunctional'. That's by the by but I came across a reference to the Priority Services Register. Previously unknown to me, the purpose is to provide assistance to the elderly and the vulnerable in the event for example of an interruption to their power supply. Here is a link www.switchcraft.co.uk/energy/understanding-energy/priority-services-register/. Doesn't help with paying the bills but may give some peace of mind to the vulnerable.
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Post by pjw1961 on Aug 14, 2022 13:47:33 GMT
The idea that we all have to run with the crowd is itself an authoritarian view of the world in terms of the pressure placed on minority dissenters to conform to the new reality. I disagreed with Mary Whitehouse on many issues - though not all - but always felt she was entitled to express her minority - held opinions in the face of much lampooning by her critics.The suggestion that we must all change our 1970s view of an issue because so many others have done so is pretty illiberal. I don't recall Whitehouse having much difficulty expressing her opinions, in fact she did so at length and with great frequency. You make her sound like she was oppressed.
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Post by alurqa on Aug 14, 2022 13:55:36 GMT
@ carfrew Yesterday you were approving the satellite launcher being developed in Cornwall and the links that go to the facility were making claims on its uniqueness and being Britain`s first. I just wonder if they are forgetting the Scottish launchers being developed in Moray and Sutherland: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-61379577Or is there a race going on? Astra (referenced in the article) have very recently announced they have cancelled their version 3 system, and are focusing on version 4, which is much larger and is being designed to launch 600kg to LEO (low Earth orbit). The larger rocket may preclude them from using the Scottish site. The idea around version 3 was you could put it in a shipping container and launch from anywhere. I think version 4 will be far too big and may need more dedicated infrastructure. Anyway early days. As I said in a previous post, this is a fast moving industry; and SpaceX's Starship, which may debut its first orbital launch attempt before the end of September, could dramatically change everything because it is designed to be fully reusable.
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Post by neilj on Aug 14, 2022 14:05:41 GMT
grahamI assume you would never vote for Jeremy Corbyn because of his affair with Diane Abbot?
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Post by RAF on Aug 14, 2022 14:07:20 GMT
Most of the 22M people on variable tariffs don't have smart meters. I don't have a smart meter. I do, however, have a smart meter reader -- me! I don't know what a smart meter is, but I know how to read my meters and have weekly meter readings going back to May 2009, when I was curious as to my daily usage. Now I know (ca 20kwh for the leccy, currently 1.5 gas units and 700 ltrs per day for water). It's not rocket science, just a spreadsheet. Take today's readings, next week do the same, subtract and divide by 7. (Ok, I wrote a Lisp script to work it out for me so I can take the readings at any time.) I just don't see the point of a smart meter, especially if you have to have some propriety tool to read them; my kids had one and then changed suppliers, and the crappy tool ceased working.
So what is the point of a smart meter? I suspect it is so the utilities can cut the cost of the dude who comes round from time to time to make a company reading -- ie it is purely a long-term cost-cutting measure for the utilities, for their benefit only. I have ignored all the (sometimes quite vociferous) request to get one installed. I have used my system for 13 years, and am quite happy, thank you very much.
[Written within a smart meter-free zone.]
I guess that's another way of doing it, if you can work out the formula for the charges and how that equates to practical usage (which you have clearly mastered). The purpose of smart meters is, at least ostensibly, to show the user the cost of energy being used in near real time, so that they can adjust their usage accordingly. Whether we yet have the technology to do that accurately is debatable, but if we can get there it would significantly assist people with their energy usage and bills.
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Post by davwel on Aug 14, 2022 14:08:46 GMT
Crossbat on Aug 12th 7.41 pm reported on a farmer happily harvesting his grain crop and believing it would yield well. But later Lakeland Lass responded with a Guardian article claiming likely poor grain yields.
I thought this article was very South-of-England in having a limited perspective, and certainly was not a proper assessment of the UK position - more info is needed covering all our grain-growing areas.
But I can report from NE Scotland that many fields look fine, and some have already been harvested. Indeed ploughing for sowing soon was going on, on some farms.
There is a serious problem now with our weather forecasters on national media having their time so shortened that they cannot give details. On Friday we were out in the NE - Peterhead, St Fergus and inland, and I took a flask of cold limejuice to combat the heat. On getting home 7 hours later, I realised it was still untouched. Our car thermometer had never passed 14 deg C (I reckon it is 2 deg low). So about half a million folk up here, an often forgotten region of the forecasters, had been warned of a 25 to 30 deg roasting but if they dressed for that, they would have been shivering. It was only in the last 10 miles going west up Deeside did we emerge from the thick cloud and the thermometer soared at 1 deg C per mile.
Memo to self - check more widely before setting out. And second, doubt stories of "national" disaster, like the i saying there will be no brussel sprouts for our Xmas dinners since the soil is too dry for them to be planted now. Are not sprouts planted in the spring doing well?- our garden looks fine.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 14:11:08 GMT
The idea that we all have to run with the crowd is itself an authoritarian view of the world in terms of the pressure placed on minority dissenters to conform to the new reality. I disagreed with Mary Whitehouse on many issues - though not all - but always felt she was entitled to express her minority - held opinions in the face of much lampooning by her critics.The suggestion that we must all change our 1970s view of an issue because so many others have done so is pretty illiberal. I don't recall Whitehouse having much difficulty expressing her opinions, in fact she did so at length and with great frequency. You make her sound like she was oppressed. I don’t think “lampooning” is permitted in his narrow world view so doesn’t count as offering an “opinion”.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 14:15:04 GMT
Personally I am appalled by politicians such as Johnson re- his philandering. I would never knowingly vote for an adulterer - nor indeed for a candidate who I knew to be cohabiting - or who had had kids out of wedlock.I have to seriously question whether Truss would not face very serious obstacles to becoming Tory leader were she to have Johnson's past - ie several kids out of wedlock with different partners plus rumoured abortions etc. Can you explain why you included 'cohabiting' above; I have cohabited with my partner for over 30 years. What's your problem with that? Blimey! Strike me off your chums list. (Must say I’m curious as to what methods should used to uncover the various “sins” that apparently preclude people from high office. And how far down the chain would it operate? Town Councillors? Teachers? Social Workers? Bus drivers?)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 14:18:23 GMT
Click on the BBCode tab at the bottom of the editor, then type after the last [ /quote] tag. I always use the BBCode tab as that way you can see what you are doing (and the wysiwyg editor has too many bugs, especially if you want to use square brackets...).
Well I didn't know that . I just ensure my cursor is outside the quotes box ! ?? I also try to cut and not paste superfluous stuff inside the quote box.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 14:22:52 GMT
Can you explain why you included 'cohabiting' above; I have cohabited with my partner for over 30 years. What's your problem with that? Don't encourage him. He is a Prig. A word you don't hear much in use these days-the old ones are sometimes the best ones.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 14:24:02 GMT
“ The reason why there are no marriage ceremonies in the Bible is because marriage did not involve a ceremony. Marriage in the Bible simply consists of a man and woman, with the consent of the woman's father or guardian, living together and attempting procreation.” Looks like you’re okay - provided you followed those two rules.
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Post by alurqa on Aug 14, 2022 14:25:47 GMT
The purpose of smart meters is, at least ostensibly, to show the user the cost of energy being used in near real time, so that they can adjust their usage accordingly. 'Oh god, I'm using too much leccy. Turn the fire off!' 'Brrr, it's freezing. Turn the fire on!' 'Oh god, I'm using too much leccy. Turn the fire off!' ... :-)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 14:26:02 GMT
Click on the BBCode tab at the bottom of the editor, then type after the last [ /quote] tag. I always use the BBCode tab as that way you can see what you are doing (and the wysiwyg editor has too many bugs, especially if you want to use square brackets...).
Well I didn't know that . I just ensure my cursor is outside the quotes box ! ?? I also try to cut and not paste superfluous stuff inside the quote box. Mois aussi. C’est tres simple.* French for “simple”. Sometimes they’re just too lazy to invent their own words.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 14:29:29 GMT
£50Bn in this context is seen as unaffordable whereas Liz is prepared to borrow £50Bn to pay for tax cuts that would predominantly benefit the wealthy. Actually she is assuming that the last OBR report is still relevant & there is £30bn ish "headroom" in Sunak's forecasts. But according to ST today, that is disappearing fast. So you are right-she may have to borrow. But I think if Starmer does adopt the two year cap/price freeze idea , and proposes a sensible funding package , then Sunak's targeted help approach and Truss' vague tax cuts + unspecified help will both come under pressure.
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Post by graham on Aug 14, 2022 14:36:58 GMT
graham I assume you would never vote for Jeremy Corbyn because of his affair with Diane Abbot? Did he have an affair? Was he married at the time?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 14:43:26 GMT
graham I assume you would never vote for Jeremy Corbyn because of his affair with Diane Abbot? Did he have an affair? Was he married at the time? We’ll bring him in for questioning.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 14:54:12 GMT
In a country with such a significant farming sector of global significance , and remembering what happened in Sri Lanka, this story is incredible. I particularly enjoyed the WEF/Davos criticism and accusation-not to mention Van der Plas' comments on the EU :- "Van der Plas said she would act to reduce the EU’s scope of work. “I would like the EU to go back to how it was when it was formed. Cooperation between a few countries on trade and transportation and economics. It’s too big right now. We are a sovereign country. Let's keep it to trade and economics." www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/08/11/in_netherlands_and_globally_greens_face_trouble_keeping_farmers_down_on_the_farm_847232.htmlThere could be major political upset in Holland over this issue . One suspects , not the last of the tensions between our established way of life and standard of living across Europe ; and the forces of change from Climate and Putin.
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Post by neilj on Aug 14, 2022 15:02:43 GMT
graham I assume you would never vote for Jeremy Corbyn because of his affair with Diane Abbot? Did he have an affair? Was he married at the time? Yes separated, but still married
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Post by steve on Aug 14, 2022 15:17:06 GMT
colin My mother was married to someone who at least had a mathematical possibility of being my father, on their divorce after a period of additional shopping around she settled for her partner and they managed 40+ years together until his death. In a leafy suburb in Hertfordshire in houses now valued at £1 million+ I can't recall more than two families with married parents, this was around 1970 Cohabitation has a long tradition in the ' burbs as did extra marital activity. Faith and I daft old sentimentalists that we were were engaged within two weeks and are still ticking along having been married and kept our vows for 35 years.
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Post by catmanjeff on Aug 14, 2022 15:26:24 GMT
Politics is much better when people's personal relationships are left out of it.
I've read heavy prejudgements today that I hoped were consigned to the dustbin of history.
OTT moralising really stinks.
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Post by crossbat11 on Aug 14, 2022 15:37:06 GMT
grahamI assume you would never vote for Jeremy Corbyn because of his affair with Diane Abbot? Might have been just about the only truly interesting thing about either of them.
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Post by EmCat on Aug 14, 2022 15:40:01 GMT
I just don't see the point of a smart meter, especially if you have to have some propriety tool to read them; my kids had one and then changed suppliers, and the crappy tool ceased working.
So what is the point of a smart meter? I suspect it is so the utilities can cut the cost of the dude who comes round from time to time to make a company reading -- ie it is purely a long-term cost-cutting measure for the utilities, for their benefit only.
The purpose of smart meters is, at least ostensibly, to show the user the cost of energy being used in near real time, so that they can adjust their usage accordingly. Whether we yet have the technology to do that accurately is debatable, but if we can get there it would significantly assist people with their energy usage and bills. The landlord of the flat I am in recently installed a smart meter. Initially, the cost of electricity used was, by around breakfast time, around 55p. At the beginning of the month, it had climbed to around 75p. The meter also has a "night time" mode, where it will switch off the display between around midnight and 7am (unless one specifically checks it). It looks as though the increased cost by breakfast time is down to an increased standing charge - currently 49p per day. The visibility to individuals of the chicanery the suppliers are doing perhaps may make smart meters as much of a curse to the suppliers as it is a blessing
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Post by leftieliberal on Aug 14, 2022 15:56:26 GMT
@ carfrew Yesterday you were approving the satellite launcher being developed in Cornwall and the links that go to the facility were making claims on its uniqueness and being Britain`s first. I just wonder if they are forgetting the Scottish launchers being developed in Moray and Sutherland: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-61379577Or is there a race going on? I think that the difference is that the Scottish launch sites are for vertical ground-level launches, while the Cornwall development uses the airport at Newquay to launch rockets from aircraft; what they call horizontal launches. There are some advantages to launching from an aircraft, mainly that aircraft can take off in conditions that would prohibit ground-level launches and starting from an altitude of 10 km plus means that you need to use less fuel to overcome air resistance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 16:04:07 GMT
colin My mother was married to someone who at least had a mathematical possibility of being my father, on their divorce after a period of additional shopping around she settled for her partner and they managed 40+ years together until his death. In a leafy suburb in Hertfordshire in houses now valued at £1 million+ I can't recall more than two families with married parents, this was around 1970 Cohabitation has a long tradition in the ' burbs as did extra marital activity. Faith and I daft old sentimentalists that we were were engaged within two weeks and are still ticking along having been married and kept our vows for 35 years. As well as being very sweet that also means that either of you qualify to become Prime Minister. ( <<<<<<<<< the happy couple.)
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Post by pjw1961 on Aug 14, 2022 16:47:38 GMT
Did he have an affair? Was he married at the time? Yes separated, but still married But she wasn't married. I assume she still gets banned by Graham for having a relationship with a married man. One of the slight problems he might have is finding anyone he can vote for. Does sex before marriage get a red card too? Because that is probably 99% of everyone born after 1940 ruled out.
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