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Post by leftieliberal on Nov 7, 2024 19:18:22 GMT
Some more grist to the mill on the difference between Trump and Rupblicans in some down ballot races (courtesy of John Ralson). In Nevada, Trump is over 51k votes ahead of Harris, with 17k voters voting for None of The Above. However in the House race, Rosen (D) is leading Brown by 13k votes, with 39K voting for NOTA. as of 1500 GMT Republicans need 7 seats: Democrats 15. California 45th Republicans +4 (70% counted) California 27th Republicans +2 (69% counted) California 41st Republicans +2 (76% counted) California 22nd Republicans +10 (56% counted) California 15th Republicans +2 (52% counted) Republicans defending all these Arizona 6th Republicans +0.5 (67% counted) Arizona 1st Republicans +1 (69% counted) Republicans defending both of these |
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Post by pjw1961 on Nov 7, 2024 21:56:11 GMT
And one of the other losers of the election - Allan Lichtman is going to need a few more keys.
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Post by mark61 on Nov 7, 2024 21:57:04 GMT
Bernie sanders critiquing the Democratic party, 'when you abandon the Working Class don't be surprised if they abandon you.' The Dem. establishment may have focused too much on Cultural/Identity Politics at the expense of Bread and Butter issues
It seems to be fairly well established that Parties that tailor their message /offer overly to their committed base lose. In Britain this is something that Sir Keir appears to get, not so sure Ms Badenoch does.
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Post by steve on Nov 7, 2024 22:54:52 GMT
California administration to hold emergency legislative session to preemptively take action to prevent the rapist President's regime attacking rights in California in relation to women's control of their own bodies, climate action, immigrants safety, civil rights and more. California provides much of the federal taxes for red states,the message couldn't be clearer. youtu.be/y4CqGvlHDsc?si=Nw9E34Z_R_moVTxG |
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Post by steve on Nov 7, 2024 23:07:58 GMT
Very tight race for the house now stands at 198 democrat 210 republican.With no net change since before the election. Several incredibly close with large percentage yet to count all bar three of the Republican defended seats could flip. 218 required for a majority ig.ft.com/us-elections/2024/results/house/ |
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Post by RAF on Nov 7, 2024 23:24:34 GMT
The Senate race in Nevada is so tight that the NOTA vote is higher than the difference between the top 2 with 91% counted.
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Post by eor on Nov 7, 2024 23:58:10 GMT
pjw1961 - agree with you very much about Biden's duplicity and ego, and at the same time it's sad but inevitable to see him now being blamed by the leaders of the Harris campaign for everything including their own tactical failures. I disagree quite a bit on Afghanistan - this argument that Biden was simply following through what Trump had outlined is ludicrous. Biden was the President of the United States, the commander of the supreme military power there - if he'd wanted to change any of part of what was happening at any point then he could have, the idea his hands were somehow fully tied because of what Trump had laid out the previous year is bizarre. Yes it's perfectly fair to argue that Trump would probably have followed the same approach had he remained in office, but that's also irrelevant - Biden had six or seven months to change tack and didn't chose to and so was rightly held accountable for what then happened on his watch. I didn't anywhere say Biden wasn't accountable for what happened, but if you look at the article by the time he took over the US troop numbers were already down to 2,500 and the withdrawal well underway. The idea that Biden could have reversed that and sent substantial numbers of US troops back to Afghanistan seems politically unviable. The final chaos was down to Biden, but given the Afghan forces failed to put up much of a fight it was always going to be a mess. The US record of successfully creating popular regimes and viable armies on the Asian continent is dire, Afghanistan just being the latest on a long list of failure. That's fair - I was thinking purely about the final stages. I doubt many US voters care much about who governs Afghanistan but politically the one thing Biden had to avoid was anything that could be compared to Saigon, and when he failed at that the argument was later routinely made by Dems that it was still Trump's fault rather than his. The dodgy confluence of that with the more general point you were making was all mine however! |
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Post by eor on Nov 8, 2024 0:02:33 GMT
And one of the other losers of the election - Allan Lichtman is going to need a few more keys. Ironically, just before Election Day Nate Silver argued that if Lichtman had applied his keys in a consistent way to how he'd applied them in recent elections then he'd have predicted Trump to be the winner this time. But as the two have Previous and Silver has a new pay-platform to build up I wouldn't assume any greater objectivity on his part than Lichtman's over this particular point  |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 8, 2024 7:47:47 GMT
Morning all Very tight race for the house now stands at 198 democrat 210 republican.With no net change since before the election. Several incredibly close with large percentage yet to count all bar three of the Republican defended seats could flip. 218 required for a majority ig.ft.com/us-elections/2024/results/house/199 vs 211 now… |
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- No, you didn’t point to alternative things one might make, you just talked about putting the leccy into the grid, which you just did all over again - you keep talking about using the grid, without taking into account the cost of the upgrades, or comparing with the potential revenue from selling the hydrogen instead. - (I.e. You’re considering the benefits of the grid, and the cost of hydrogen, without considering the benefits of hydrogen, and the costs of the grid) - Or the potential revenue from making something more lucrative than either hydrogen or putting it into the grid - It’s not much cop focusing on the difficulty of storing liquid hydrogen, while ignoring potential alternatives like hydrides or converting it to products easier to store, as I indicated - Batteries don’t, as you claim, “destroy the use case for hydrogen”, because you don’t have to use the hydrogen as an energy store, you could sell it and potentially make more money given projected demand- I’m not as you seem to think, fixated on hydrogen, in fact, I have suggested other uses for the electricity besides hydrogen. Whereas you are somewhat more fixated on just the grid. - But regardless of what you or I think, a reason for being interested in it is that the government are about to make a number of investments in green hydrogen. Partly by funding the Tory commitments, but they are going to do another round of funding for green hydrogen and carbon capture etc. - I don't know if you are simply not bothering to try to take in what I'm saying, or simply trolling, but I really object to being misrepresented. Let's just take your comment highlighted above. The claim re batteries was in relation to the paper I linked to. Have you read that paper? Have you even read the (brief) abstract? (I grant you the whole thing is 98 pages long, and yes - I have read the full report.) Somehow I don't think you can have? Because if you had even read the abstract you would be well aware that the detail is very far from assuming "use the hydrogen as an energy store" - and goes into depth about the most economic routes. As you don't seem to have bothered even to read the abstract, a quick quote: "The results suggest that supplying hydrogen into the transport sector is the most economically feasible solution. The results also consider the economic feasibility of wholesale and gas grid supply."I suggest you might at least like to read the conclusions (page 93 onwards) before making any further comment. At the time of writing, it concluded that the example site just **might** be economic under certain circumstances for hydrogen production from curtailed generation - but it's far from a clear cut scenario. It also makes some assumptions that haven't proven to be the case - eg "It was suggested that while it is feasible to produce hydrogen for the transport sector there is not currently the road transport demand although this would be closer to realization by 2024 and will develop from there." In fact, with the benefit of hindsight, we now know that the road transport demand (for hydrogen) seems farther away than ever. In 2024, we can now look to see how the project at the heart of that paper has progressed, looking 4-5 years into the future. What is now proposed in reality? And does it follow the lines the paper suggested? What was being looked at was the Alwen Forest windfarm project. It's now reached an advanced planning stage, and the last I heard is awaiting final approval, with a decision due next year. So - have the final plans indeed gone for hydrogen and electrolysis to abate any curtailment? And the answer is a resounding ** NO**. You can see the final detailed proposal at alwenforestwindfarm.co.uk/ No electrolysis. No hydrogen. But integral to the plans is a BESS together with the grid connection. I'm informed that the choice between a BESS and hydrogen production wasn't even close. Surprise, surprise. Batteries don't "destroy the use case for hydrogen" in any global way - but they DO largely help destroy the case for it as an alternative to curtailment. Alwen Forest is just a single example of a wider truism. Regarding your last paragraph above, then again, you seem to simply disregard my previous closing comments. Try reading them again. As should be totally obvious, I'm certainly not arguing against green hydrogen per se, and yes, am totally aware of the government investments. But such are NOT the same as any argument about production (cheaply) from otherwise curtailed electricity. Would have replied sooner, but for all the excitement of the election. And it was quite something for you to suggest someone else might be trolling when you: - Only want to compare with hydrogen, not the other possibilities besides hydrogen I have been talking about - The paper you point to doesn’t even consider the hydrogen derivatives I was talking about - even with just basic hydrogen though, they agree on page 75 that it “is economically feasible today with a sale price of hydrogen of £1.71 per kg.” and that is despite the fact that in their calculations, they are including the “opportunity cost” of keeping the payments to just chuck the leccy away. - in other words, in their analysis, hydrogen doesn’t just have to be profitable, it has to be more profitable than getting paid to chuck the leccy away!! - Obviously if we consider the situation where we get rid of those payments, hydrogen may be preferred at a lower sale price. |
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Post by pjw1961 on Nov 8, 2024 7:58:03 GMT
And one of the other losers of the election - Allan Lichtman is going to need a few more keys. Ironically, just before Election Day Nate Silver argued that if Lichtman had applied his keys in a consistent way to how he'd applied them in recent elections then he'd have predicted Trump to be the winner this time. But as the two have Previous and Silver has a new pay-platform to build up I wouldn't assume any greater objectivity on his part than Lichtman's over this particular point I have some sympathy with that. I had a look at the keys a couple of months ago and tried to apply them to the current scenario and thought Lichtman's take on it was overly generous to the Democrat's chances (in fact the way he was doing it Biden would have had an even better chance of winning than Harris, which the polling suggested was nonsense). Lichtman has had a pop back at Silver after the outcome saying that at least he admits he got it wrong whereas Silver equally failed to predict Trump would win as easily as he did, but he made it so opaque as to have a sort of 'each-way bet' going. |
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Post by Danny on Nov 8, 2024 8:17:15 GMT
It seems to be fairly well established that Parties that tailor their message /offer overly to their committed base lose. In Britain this is something that Sir Keir appears to get, not so sure Ms Badenoch does. In labour's case, a party which has long failed to tailor its message to its traditional base...barely scraped home in terms of actual percentage support. Only because its opponent was widely detested. Nor are the democrats tailoring their message to their traditional base, which Trump widely captured. |
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Post by shevii on Nov 8, 2024 8:28:41 GMT
@mark
Very confusing with two threads running now so maybe there'll be a techne poll to start a new one.
Checked the other threads and no by election results posted that I can see and Reform starting to make progress now:
Election Maps UK
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Marsh Mill (Wyre) Council By-Election Result:
➡️ RFM: 38.6% (New)
🌳 CON: 30.6% (-27.2)
🌹 LAB: 27.2% (-15.0)
🌍 GRN: 3.5% (New)
Reform GAIN from Conservative.
Changes w/ 2023.
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Bispham (Blackpool) Council By-Election Result:
🌹 LAB: 31.5% (-16.5)
➡️ RFM: 30.7% (New)
🌳 CON: 22.7% (-29.2)
🙋 IND: 10.7% (New)
🌍 GRN: 2.6% (New)
🔶 LDM: 1.7% (New)
Labour GAIN from Conservative.
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Great Hollands (Bracknell Forest) Council By-Election Result:
🌹 LAB: 46.1% (-27.8)
🌳 CON: 27.8% (+1.7)
➡️ RFM: 14.1% (New)
🙋 IND: 10.7% (New)
🏰 HER: 1.4% (New)
Labour HOLD.
Changes w/ 2023.
Despite the Labour gain I think they will be more worried that Reform came within 12 votes (apparently) of winning that one from Tories. Reform hadn't been winning anything at the local by elections but are now. Labour may of course be content that Tories and reform are splitting the vote but those minus vote shares in double figures for Labour must be concerning them. And yes these are local by elections with the arguments of what this tells us :-)
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Post by jib on Nov 8, 2024 8:30:08 GMT
Ironically, just before Election Day Nate Silver argued that if Lichtman had applied his keys in a consistent way to how he'd applied them in recent elections then he'd have predicted Trump to be the winner this time. But as the two have Previous and Silver has a new pay-platform to build up I wouldn't assume any greater objectivity on his part than Lichtman's over this particular point I have some sympathy with that. I had a look at the keys a couple of months ago and tried to apply them to the current scenario and thought Lichtman's take on it was overly generous to the Democrat's chances (in fact the way he was doing it Biden would have had an even better chance of winning than Harris, which the polling suggested was nonsense). Lichtman has had a pop back at Silver after the outcome saying that at least he admits he got it wrong whereas Silver equally failed to predict Trump would win as easily as he did, but he made it so opaque as to have a sort of 'each-way bet' going. I think it's a classic case of metropolitan American class completely misunderstanding the reality of the political life as you travel outwards to the more rural areas. This is pretty clear looking at the results at sub state level. It was a shock to them maybe, and a few similar types on this site, but it also offers a warning to Labour not to underestimate the danger that right wing Populists* will present to them in 2028/9. * Conservative and Reform combined, as had happened in 2019, beat Labour in terms of votes, and the great right wing unity candidate Boris Johnson will be eyeing a return soon. |
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Post by Danny on Nov 8, 2024 8:37:57 GMT
Ironically, just before Election Day Nate Silver argued that if Lichtman had applied his keys in a consistent way to how he'd applied them in recent elections then he'd have predicted Trump to be the winner this time. But as the two have Previous and Silver has a new pay-platform to build up I wouldn't assume any greater objectivity on his part than Lichtman's over this particular point I have some sympathy with that. I had a look at the keys a couple of months ago and tried to apply them to the current scenario and thought Lichtman's take on it was overly generous to the Democrat's chances (in fact the way he was doing it Biden would have had an even better chance of winning than Harris, which the polling suggested was nonsense). I thought the keys are quite heavy on successful foreign policy, where I thought Biden was doing rather badly. The expensive stalemate in Ukraine is a nonsense, Israel is an official ally running amok, Afghanistan withdrawal ballsup. If you count border infiltration, well, not impressive. All the keys... uncontested nomination...was a fiasco, -. No third party candidate +. party already holds ppresidency +. Recession, have to score it - on perception even if recovering. Thats two keys for short and long term, doubt people thought either is great, more an endless struggle seems to be what people are saying, -. Incumbent achieved major changes of policy, dont think so, -. No sustained social unrest, well no major rioting but I'd think the public is quite restless about a lot of things, so at best neutral not a plus. No major incumbent scandal...well there is, whether he is senile, -. No foreign policy failure, there was, -. Foreign policy success, nope, -. Incumbent charismatic, nope, -. Challenger not charismatic, nope, -. Theres one about how well they improved in house elections, dont know the answer to that except there were no spectacular dem wins there.
Looks like a loss prediction to me?
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Post by Danny on Nov 8, 2024 8:48:18 GMT
Despite the Labour gain I think they will be more worried that Reform came within 12 votes (apparently) of winning that one from Tories. Reform hadn't been winning anything at the local by elections but are now. Labour may of course be content that Tories and reform are splitting the vote but those minus vote shares in double figures for Labour must be concerning them. And yes these are local by elections with the arguments of what this tells us :-) In conservative seats reform came through strong taking 50% more votes from con than lab. That sounds much like the general election result. In the strong labs seat con managed to increase a little, reform took a big chunk from labour and so it seems did an independant. The independant might be anything, could be screwing the result, but overall this is still consistent with general election results in strong labour seats. Significant loss off percenatge in traditional strongholds. Voters not keen on labour but still detest con more. Reform not at all suffering from Farage being friendly with the next US president. (and its so funny how other politicians are now trying to be friends with Trump) |
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Post by Danny on Nov 8, 2024 8:52:20 GMT
Interesting attacks on Israelis in Netherlands. Though its not clear whether the Israelis might have attacked first against palestinian supporters, they seem to have been videoed at least responding in kind. Israel condemning this as antisemitism, but nothing which has been caused by Israel's invasion of neighbouring states should be classed as antisemitism. Thats simply reacting against an invader.
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Post by pjw1961 on Nov 8, 2024 9:28:47 GMT
@mark Very confusing with two threads running now so maybe there'll be a techne poll to start a new one. I second that proposal. |
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Post by leftieliberal on Nov 8, 2024 9:33:27 GMT
@mark Very confusing with two threads running now so maybe there'll be a techne poll to start a new one. I second that proposal. It ,might help if contributors used the right link (@ admin) for Mark |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 8, 2024 9:41:40 GMT
@mark Very confusing with two threads running now so maybe there'll be a techne poll to start a new one. I second that proposal. So we can have three concurrent threads! 👍🤞 |
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Post by Mark on Nov 8, 2024 9:43:20 GMT
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Yes, I'll start a new UK polling thread when the next poll appears. Its long overdue. Feel free to alert me if anyone spots it before I do...
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 8, 2024 9:51:20 GMT
Ok, so the politicking and positioning in the aftermath ramps up…
“Lammy warns Trump against ‘hurting’ allies with tariffs plan
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Trump unlikely to get a state visit in next 12 months, signals Lammy
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Lammy warns Trump against ‘hurting’ allies with tariffs plan
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Trump’s tariffs plan gives Starmer ‘big dilemma’, warns Farage
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Rees-Mogg accuses Starmer of picking EU over Trump’s US (Re:smog - “All signs point to our closer alignment with the US, and yet [yesterday] we see the Prime Minister, the Reverend Starmer, continuing his charm offensive in Europe with the latest leg of his reset of relations with the EU in Hungary.”)
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 8, 2024 9:55:05 GMT
“Asked if the Government would seek a special trading arrangement with the US to avoid the extra charges being imposed on UK exports, Mr Lammy told the BBC’s Newscast: “Well, you probably know that when the Biden administration pursued their Inflation Reduction Act and indeed their Chips Act and the UK and other partners were cut out of that or were not engaged in that, there was some criticism both publicly and privately about that.
“So of course, we would seek with a new administration to ensure that as a major ally we were aligned and we were considered, obviously. That’s in Britain’s national interest. Of course we do that.”
Asked if he would seek to ensure that there were no extra tariffs imposed on UK goods, Mr Lammy said: “We will seek to ensure and to get across to the United States, and I believe that they would understand this, that hurting your closest allies cannot be in your medium or long term interests, whatever the pursuit of public policy in relation to some of the problems posed by China.””
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Post by shevii on Nov 8, 2024 10:25:24 GMT
Interesting attacks on Israelis in Netherlands. Though its not clear whether the Israelis might have attacked first against palestinian supporters, they seem to have been videoed at least responding in kind. Israel condemning this as antisemitism, but nothing which has been caused by Israel's invasion of neighbouring states should be classed as antisemitism. Thats simply reacting against an invader. According to mail online started by Israeli football "hooligans" and then like for like retaliation, so Millwall v West Ham with political undertones and would be hard placed to describe as antisemitism. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14053391/Israeli-football-hooligans-Palestine-flags-Ajax-Maccabi-Tel-Aviv.html |
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Post by shevii on Nov 8, 2024 11:07:12 GMT
I went away on the morning Trump was declared the winner. Read all the comments but I think it is very hard to judge when we don't live there. Even someone like turk who does live there can only feel the mood in his area of one state that has always gone Republican anyway. My thoughts are that primarily it was the economy and there were plenty of quotes in the focus groups about voting for Trump because they felt their (economic) lives had been better under him. Some were voting that way even despite reservations about Trump personally. I suppose one question we should be asking is whether actually the "average" voter was better off under Trump. This would not entirely be a surprise with the Dems dealing with the fallout from Covid and Ukraine and inflation but going further we do have to consider whether Trump policies were actually better for the working class swing voters. All very well looking at GDP figures (even job figures) and saying that means the economy is great but that's only one indicator and trickle down from GDP isn't very strong I feel. It would also not be a surprise that, as with the Tories in the 1980's, you can create a strong temporary economy while neglecting the long term effect of those policies. If you neglect the investment needed to combat global warming for example then it saves you money in the short term with drastic issues in the long term. I also think we need to consider that Trump going protectionist may not be such a bad thing for the ordinary American. America is a wealthy country with large natural resources still (I think anyway) so the value added from world trade for them might be quite limited beyond benefits for the corporations. Larry Elliott wrote what I thought was an incredibly good article about the shifting balance on world trade and dynamics: www.theguardian.com/business/2024/nov/03/trump-or-harris-whoever-wins-will-face-a-shift-in-power-in-the-global-economy"But things quickly started to go wrong and the neoliberal utopia never materialised. Free movement of capital coupled with only the scantiest of regulation led to a series of localised meltdowns that eventually went global in the banking crisis of 2008. China became a much bigger and powerful economy than the US had envisaged. The WTO proved incapable of negotiating new trade deals. Voters expressed anger at slow growth, deindustrialisation and mass migration. The Covid pandemic exposed the fragility of global supply chains. The nation state made a comeback, along with activist industrial policies and protectionism. Bush’s vision of the world marching in step to the US’s tune lasted no more than a decade." From a distance I also felt that the Dems campaign was very poor with two very poor challengers, Biden seriously past his prime and then Harris who didn't seem to do very much at all to offer anything to the American people. Trump comes from a very priveleged background and yet, just like Farage and despite the hatred in his eyes, he came across as more "working class" than his opponents. Harder for a woman to get the balance right (as Rayner well knows) but maybe Harris should have done more on her image with a bit of cosplaying in hard hats, hoodies and pints in pubs rather than the glitzy rallies. But no idea what really pushes the American electorate's buttons. I didn't feel quite as upset as I expected to. A friend of my said that a class his daughter goes to had to deal with the Ukrainian kids in tears that morning. When I look at the obvious issues that's one of the big fears but as lens was saying the other day this war seemed to be going nowhere and I can't help but dive down into conspiracy theory territory thinking that really maybe the West (America) never wanted to end the war the way that they were capable of doing had they risked escalating things. No sign of Cuban missile politics for sure. So I think this definitely emboldens Putin and allows him to negotiate better terms but hard for me to envisage two and a half years of war in the UK without resolution. On Palestine the damage has already been done and Trump will be a disaster probably but difficult to see how that would have made any difference to their outcome without a change in policy from the Dems. Global warming probably the biggie but again the Dems may have been going in the right direction but were still far from sufficient to a crisis that has already reached a tipping point I feel. A Trump presidency is desperately sad on so many levels but I think the Dems not only fought a poor campaign but didn't have the answers- populist or genuine economic ones. |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 8, 2024 12:53:10 GMT
Bernie sanders critiquing the Democratic party, 'when you abandon the Working Class don't be surprised if they abandon you.' The Dem. establishment may have focused too much on Cultural/Identity Politics at the expense of Bread and Butter issues .Yes the question is how much is it a more accidental abandonment, or neglect… I have some sympathy with that. I had a look at the keys a couple of months ago and tried to apply them to the current scenario and thought Lichtman's take on it was overly generous to the Democrat's chances (in fact the way he was doing it Biden would have had an even better chance of winning than Harris, which the polling suggested was nonsense). Lichtman has had a pop back at Silver after the outcome saying that at least he admits he got it wrong whereas Silver equally failed to predict Trump would win as easily as he did, but he made it so opaque as to have a sort of 'each-way bet' going. I think it's a classic case of metropolitan American class completely misunderstanding the reality of the political life as you travel outwards to the more rural areas. . …or indeed a misunderstanding… as opposed to something a bit more intentional that is backfiring a tad |
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Post by steve on Nov 8, 2024 13:42:54 GMT
In a What the actual fuck moment.
Rapist President elect's favoured candidate for Attorney General is Mag a Mike Davis.
Here's Davis's c.v.
Davis spoke to far-right pundit Benny Johnson one year ago about what he would do as acting attorney general — or as he referred to it, his “three-week reign of terror.”
“Before I get chased out of town with my Trump pardon, I will rain hell on Washington, D.C.,” he told Johnson, reminding him how they’d discussed the subject in the past.
Davis listed his main objectives: fire “a lot of people” in the executive branch; indict Joe Biden, who defeated Trump in the 2020 presidential election; deport “10 million people and growing,” or about 3% of the country’s population; detain “a lot of people” in Guantanamo Bay and “the D.C. gulag”; and pardon those charged over the storming of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
Adding just this week that one of those he wants to lock up in a gulag is New York State Attorney General Letitia James and wants to " put her fat arse in prison"if she doesn't stop criticising his cult leader for threatening to rip up the constitution.
“We’re going to put kids in cages. It’s going to be glorious,” Davis said of migrant children.
This man is almost certainly going to be in charge of the department of justice and as such will be the senior law enforcement officer in the USA.
It's a frickin nightmare.
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 8, 2024 13:49:35 GMT
On the chances of some US/UK trade arrangements…
“Experts see the chance of a full deal as slim. Bain says that a comprehensive free trade agreement is unlikely because of disagreements over agricultural standards, which have always been a sticking point.
Even still, smaller wins are still possible.
“There are some mini-agreements around supply chains, critical imports and digital trade which could be done with the incoming administration,” he says. This would “absolutely” have economic benefits for British companies, he says.
Britain may also benefit if Trump scraps the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) too, or at least weakens the green subsidies offered by the current administration. The IRA was blamed for starving much of the rest of the world of investment by offering subsidies so attractive that it drew capital from all over the world to the US.
Trump has pledged to scrap support for the wind industry on day one of his return to the Oval Office and is a noted green energy sceptic. There are signs that his victory is already influencing investment intentions.
Andy Brown, deputy chairman of Danish energy giant Ørsted, told the BBC’s Today Programme: “We may have to adjust our focus. In terms of the world of offshore wind, the UK is much more relevant than the US.””
Telegraph
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Post by steve on Nov 8, 2024 13:55:42 GMT
c-a-r-f-r-e-wMaybe we can offer to house some of the ten million people the fascists want to deport. They appear to be overwhelmingly hard working and law abiding and we could get a bonus out of America's very own national shoot yourself in the head day.
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