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Post by alec on Feb 6, 2024 10:54:07 GMT
Go away Danny. I've even given you pretty pictures to help you understand. Go get some crayons and keep yourself entertained. |
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Feb 6, 2024 11:04:39 GMT
Back in 2013 my GP was trying to find why my blood pressure remained stubbornly high. He sent me for an ultrasound scan of my heart and on the edge of the images something showed up on a kidney that shouldn't have been there. Three working days later I had a CAT scan, two days later a phone call to attend hospital to see a consultant on the following working day. At that appointment I was told there was a tumour on my right kidney and an operation had been booked to remove the kidney in two days time. I had the op and was out of hospital in two days.
From CAT scan to op was one week. I do wonder if that would be possible these days.
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Post by pjw1961 on Feb 6, 2024 11:21:54 GMT
No, but nor will any other financial institution that starts taking economic advice from him. |
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Post by pjw1961 on Feb 6, 2024 11:24:51 GMT
Another thought is that we are thinking about people who pay very little attention to world affairs and politics generally. They probably think along the lines of: “He’d be good for a laugh.” The very words of my sister about both Trump and Johnson. And on her vote for Brexit "I fancied a change" We make people take a test before allowing them to drive a car. Perhaps there should be a written test before you're allowed to vote. (I think that was a joke, although ...) |
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Post by alec on Feb 6, 2024 11:37:06 GMT
Really depressing to see this - www.thesun.co.uk/health/25700333/common-winter-illnesses-health-tips/We've got to the point now where measles is being discussed in the press as just another winter ailment, in the same breath as a common cold. That's where the post covid assault on public health has brought us. Measles is not 'common', It was actually eliminated in the UK in 2016, but because of the idiotic notions put out by public health officials around covid, and how getting infected isn't so bad, infections make your immune system stronger, etc etc, sufficient parents have abandoned measles vaccination for their children and we now have a big outbreak on our hands. For the unvaccinated under 5s, measles has a case fatality rate of anywhere from 2% - 15%, and permanent disability is frequent. But it just seems we're now accepting measles as just one of those things. I don't think people really grasp how far we've fallen back on public health in the last few years. We're now talking in a pre-Victorian language about one of the most successful areas of social intervention in human history. |
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Post by steve on Feb 6, 2024 12:00:30 GMT
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German sick leave statistics I've seen date only up to the end of 2022 there was a spike in the first half of the year which apparently was largely caused by the requirements to have a mandatory covid clear report before returning.
Have you any data subsequent to this? If not it doesn't really prove what you think it does.
I don't underestimate the significance of covid I do however prefer valid and comprehensive data rather than cherry picking to prove a point.
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Post by leftieliberal on Feb 6, 2024 12:09:02 GMT
Well, if a 73 year old can start cancer treatment 24 hours after a diagnosis, the NHS can't be too bad, can it?  It looked like a private hospital to me; so Charles III isn't adding to the load on the NHS. |
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Post by leftieliberal on Feb 6, 2024 12:10:36 GMT
Good to see you admit that more Labour voters are drug addicts. Explains a lot.  Since when has 20% been greater than 31%? |
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Post by bendo on Feb 6, 2024 12:12:41 GMT
Really depressing to see this - https://www.thesun.c Agreed. Really depressing that people on a forum where you would expect a reaonable level of intelligence, people actually read stuff from that vile rag. |
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Post by leftieliberal on Feb 6, 2024 12:18:21 GMT
The very words of my sister about both Trump and Johnson. And on her vote for Brexit "I fancied a change" We make people take a test before allowing them to drive a car. Perhaps there should be a written test before you're allowed to vote. (I think that was a joke, although ...) I hope it was a joke, although with half of the voting population below average intelligence, I cannot be sure. One answer is that the presiding officer at the Polling Station should be required to ask the voter who the leaders of the two main parties are before handing out the ballot paper (oldnat and hireton can substitute the SNP in Scotland). This is a joke (in case anyone is fooled). |
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Post by pjw1961 on Feb 6, 2024 12:19:50 GMT
Really depressing to see this - www.thesun.co.uk/health/25700333/common-winter-illnesses-health-tips/We've got to the point now where measles is being discussed in the press as just another winter ailment, in the same breath as a common cold. That's where the post covid assault on public health has brought us. Measles is not 'common', It was actually eliminated in the UK in 2016, but because of the idiotic notions put out by public health officials around covid, and how getting infected isn't so bad, infections make your immune system stronger, etc etc, sufficient parents have abandoned measles vaccination for their children and we now have a big outbreak on our hands. For the unvaccinated under 5s, measles has a case fatality rate of anywhere from 2% - 15%, and permanent disability is frequent. But it just seems we're now accepting measles as just one of those things. I don't think people really grasp how far we've fallen back on public health in the last few years. We're now talking in a pre-Victorian language about one of the most successful areas of social intervention in human history. Alec, you write so much sense on so many topics and have such a blind spot on this subject. The Sun is not a medical journal. I can assure you that no-one in the NHS or public health is "accepting measles as just one of those things" - a simple google search will show you that every government and NHS website advises getting vaccinated against it via MMR. If you want to find the cause of reduced take up of vaccines go and check out the spreaders of vaccine conspiracy theories and scare stories, not public health officials. |
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Post by steve on Feb 6, 2024 12:40:13 GMT
If I believed in a deity I think the traitor shows every characteristic of the antichrist , devoted to bringing about the end of days. "In contrast to a sometimes chaotic first White House term, they outlined a far more methodical second presidency: driving forward fossil fuel production, sidelining mainstream climate scientists and overturning rules that curb planet-heating emissions." www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/06/trump-climate-change-fossil-fuels-second-term |
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Post by leftieliberal on Feb 6, 2024 12:42:21 GMT
When my late wife was rushed into A&E because she collapsed just before a scheduled appointment with the consultant (it was caused by a pulmonary embolism) she was in hospital for a month at the beginning of 2020 and had her entire course of six sessions of radiotherapy while an in-patient as they waited for the clot to dissolve naturally - they didn't want to use clot-busting drugs because that increases the risk of haemorrhage from the cancer. So the NHS certainly acted pretty promptly in her case (the radio-therapy was already scheduled, but may have taken place over a longer period had she been treated as an out-patient). So the NHS certainly worked for us. In the end she died ten months later, with rather than from the cancer (she had been diagnosed back in 2017 with fronto-temporal dementia).
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Post by steve on Feb 6, 2024 12:49:37 GMT
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When my late wife was rushed into A&E because she collapsed just before a scheduled appointment with the consultant (it was caused by a pulmonary embolism) she was in hospital for a month at the beginning of 2020 and had her entire course of six sessions of radiotherapy while an in-patient as they waited for the clot to dissolve naturally - they didn't want to use clot-busting drugs because that increases the risk of haemorrhage from the cancer. So the NHS certainly acted pretty promptly in her case (the radio-therapy was already scheduled, but may have taken place over a longer period had she been treated as an out-patient). So the NHS certainly worked for us. In the end she died ten months later, with rather than from the cancer (she had been diagnosed back in 2017 with fronto-temporal dementia). Very sorry to hear that leftieliberal . May I send my best wishes and condolences . |
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Post by johntel on Feb 6, 2024 12:57:41 GMT
The very words of my sister about both Trump and Johnson. And on her vote for Brexit "I fancied a change" We make people take a test before allowing them to drive a car. Perhaps there should be a written test before you're allowed to vote. (I think that was a joke, although ...) Those that can't write could just put an X |
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Post by Danny on Feb 6, 2024 12:59:12 GMT
Interesting R4 phone in on electric vehicles. Uptake of these new is stalling. Prices second hand tumbling, whether thats good or bad.
The biggest reason people are complaining about is charging. Shortage of public charging stations. Cost differential ranging from 9p per kwh at home to 90p at a motorway charge point (assuming you can find one). A couple of people who claim to drive theirs for thousands of miles across europe, one guy said the manufacturer has created a charger network which works fine, the other that its a bit hit and miss. Can work nicely for those who can charge at home and thats enough for their normal needs, but way more expensive if you cannot. Also some discontent that home electricity is chared VAT at 5%, but public at 20%.
Complaint that public chargers are on all sorts of different networks without interoperability, so you have to register with different companies to use them. Problem you cannot just turn up and charge. Much more work needed to integrated charging network.
Also mentioned electric cars are 30% more expensive to repair because of a shortage of engineers to work on them. Ditto anyone who has trouble with their own charging installations, no one can be found to fix them.
And it seems companies have realised they can significanty reduce costs by repairing batteries instead of scrapping them, so there need to be engineers to actually do this where it is currently possible, and to redesign other batteries so they can be dismantled and repaired.
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Post by pjw1961 on Feb 6, 2024 13:00:20 GMT
If I believed in a deity I think the traitor shows every characteristic of the antichrist , devoted to bringing about the end of days."In contrast to a sometimes chaotic first White House term, they outlined a far more methodical second presidency: driving forward fossil fuel production, sidelining mainstream climate scientists and overturning rules that curb planet-heating emissions." www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/06/trump-climate-change-fossil-fuels-second-term You have to remember that the American evangelists are very keen on the end of the world, which will bring about 'the rapture' where they (but not the likes of us) get taken bodily up into heaven. You wouldn't really want one of them to have their finger on the nuclear button. |
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Post by Danny on Feb 6, 2024 13:02:56 GMT
You mean like the French Farmers protesting about EU agri-regulation , and the operation of the CAP ? Last time I looked into the CAP, it had just been reformed so that nations have very wide control over how the subsidy in their country gets distributed. Sharp difference between how the UK and french ones operated. So...its likely this is down to the French government. |
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Post by Danny on Feb 6, 2024 13:05:45 GMT
Go away Danny. I've even given you pretty pictures to help you understand. Go get some crayons and keep yourself entertained. Theres a long established pattern here. You post a link and claim. I have a look and point out why the claim isnt justified. You write an abusive response. |
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Post by steve on Feb 6, 2024 13:08:51 GMT
"Theres a long established pattern here"
Good Lord why haven't you mentioned this before!
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Post by Danny on Feb 6, 2024 13:09:38 GMT
No. Thats where the excessive claims about risk from covid have brought us. Its risks were grossly overclaimed, so its not surprising people now assume that all such claims are also exaggeration. Its something certain experts warned against at the start of the covid epidemic, always tell the truth otherwise eventually the public will find out and then you lose their trust completely. So, no surrise, this is a consequence of what was done. |
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Post by Danny on Feb 6, 2024 13:12:18 GMT
One answer is that the presiding officer at the Polling Station should be required to ask the voter who the leaders of the two main parties are before handing out the ballot paper (oldnat and hireton can substitute the SNP in Scotland). This is a joke (in case anyone is fooled). Dont say that too loud. If someone hated both big parties so didnt know anything about them but was intending to support a minor party, this could be a way to prevent them voting! |
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You mean like the French Farmers protesting about EU agri-regulation , and the operation of the CAP ? Last time I looked into the CAP, it had just been reformed so that nations have very wide control over how the subsidy in their country gets distributed. Sharp difference between how the UK and french ones operated. So...its likely this is down to the French government. You dont need to speculate-just read the reports. It includes dissatisfaction about :- *Withdrawal of subsidy on fuel. *Shift from single farm payment to conservation related outcomes. *Time spent on regulation and monitoring form filling. * Cost inflation vs Price of farm products. *Importing of cheap foods from countries with lower quality standards & regulation. * Importing cheap Ukrainian grain . These are a mix of national level and union level competencies. Which is why they went to Brussels as well as Paris -and why its not just French farmers-Dutch, German, Belgian, Greek, Italian, Spanish , Polish..... |
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Post by steve on Feb 6, 2024 13:18:12 GMT
"Former prime minister Liz Truss has told the PopCons event in London that Britons want to see lower immigration and want illegal immigrants deported, but that ministers’ efforts are “constantly being stymied”, and that “Conservatives have not taken on the left-wing extremists.”
Saying that for two decades Tories had tried to “appease these people”, and also argued that ministers have “responsibility without having power”, because of institutions having greater sway.
“I’m afraid we have not taken on the left enough” she said.
She claimed the ideology of leftists disguising themselves as environmentalists is about “taking power away from families and giving it to the state and unelected bodies” and is drowning out the need for cheaper energy, and hit out at the government for “pandering to the anti-capitalists”, while ordinary people believe “the wokery that is going on is nonsense”. She said “wokeism seems to be on the curriculum” in schools.
Former prime minister Liz Truss during the launch of the Popular Conservatism movement at the Emmanuel Centre in central London.
Former prime minister Liz Truss during the launch of the Popular Conservatism movement at the Emmanuel Centre in central London. Photograph: Victoria Jones/PA
Truss, who became prime minister after being appointed by the Conservative party as leader, said “We need to restore faith in democracy and we can only do that by restoring democratic accountability”.
She said “the left have been on the march” in UK institutions, in the corporate world and globally, but “Britain is full of secret Conservative forces” of people who are ashamed to admit their values, and that the PopCons group must rally them. "
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Post by barbara on Feb 6, 2024 13:23:45 GMT
These "Conservatives" such as Kwarteng and Hancock and Cameron and Johnson were never interested in a long term career in politics. It was always a means to gain power, influence and afterwards, great wealth. As soon as it became clear that their place in the top echelons of the party were over, off they trot to lucrative jobs in the city or on boards of companies. Not for them the hard yards of standing in unwinnable seats or campaigning to get someone else elected, or years of serving their constituents as a hard working back bencher. Carpet Baggers the lot of them. |
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Post by Danny on Feb 6, 2024 13:25:24 GMT
"Theres a long established pattern here" Good Lord why haven't you mentioned this before! I thought as former police, you would have noticed. |
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Post by Danny on Feb 6, 2024 13:29:38 GMT
These "Conservatives" such as Kwarteng and Hancock and Cameron and Johnson were never interested in a long term career in politics. It was always a means to gain power, influence and afterwards, great wealth. As soon as it became clear that their place in the top echelons of the party were over, off they trot to lucrative jobs in the city or on boards of companies. Not for them the hard yards of standing in unwinnable seats or campaigning to get someone else elected, or years of serving their constituents as a hard working back bencher. Carpet Baggers the lot of them. And is that surprising? Its an irony that given we are in the era of privatisation, one thing government has determinedly safeguarded is a monopoly on its own power and access to power. |
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Post by mercian on Feb 6, 2024 13:38:43 GMT
ptarmigan I wonder if any polling has been done to see if 'traditional' Labour voters are happy that Labour is now the party of choice for Muslims? In the longer term it could be a bigger problem for the party than the old left-right divergence, especially as Muslims tend to be socially conservative whereas the official party policy is very 'woke'. Interesting. Perhaps you would prefer that political parties were organised along ethnic and/or religious grounds. There are many countries in the world where that happens - Modi is doing very well in India out of Hindu nationalism for example - and we only need look at Northern Ireland to find parties with religion as a significant factor in their origins, but the noticable thing is it tends to be accompanied by rampant sectarianism, discrimination and often violence as well. Quite the opposite, I was simply pondering on long term political tides. |
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