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Post by barbara on Jan 28, 2024 9:25:24 GMT
I have just experienced an example of broken Britain. I love 9 miles from the Stadium of Light in Sunderland, my son lives in Leith 140 miles away. We left the Vaux taproom close to the ground at the same time. He got home to his flat in Edinburgh before I got home using public transport. Two buses failed to show up, so I got another one which goes a long way around taking an extra 45 mins, but it would get me home. Part way through the journey the relief driver fails to turn up, rather than wait I walked the last two miles home, still getting home before the bus I was on . If we want people to use public transport this is just not good enough. 9 miles in which direction? I'm 17 miles.
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Post by John Chanin on Jan 28, 2024 9:57:48 GMT
I have just experienced an example of broken Britain. I love 9 miles from the Stadium of Light in Sunderland, my son lives in Leith 140 miles away. We left the Vaux taproom close to the ground at the same time. He got home to his flat in Edinburgh before I got home using public transport. Two buses failed to show up, so I got another one which goes a long way around taking an extra 45 mins, but it would get me home. Part way through the journey the relief driver fails to turn up, rather than wait I walked the last two miles home, still getting home before the bus I was on . If we want people to use public transport this is just not good enough. 9 miles in which direction? I'm 17 miles. Obviously east. The buses must have sunk....
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 28, 2024 10:24:11 GMT
Interesting events unfolding in Hyderabad. A famous England victory in India on the cards?
Pope and Hartley sound like a provincial legal firm, probably specialising in probate and wills, but they could become cricketing legends now.
Infallibility and obscure authors only found in Yellow Pages searches combining to good effect.
Could still be a tight finish though.
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Post by neilj on Jan 28, 2024 11:34:09 GMT
Talk from tories of bias against them by the BBC, but the reverential and friendly treatment Kuenssberg gave Badenoch is in stark contrast to her treatment of Cooper
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 28, 2024 11:46:20 GMT
Talk from tories of bias against them by the BBC, but the reverential and friendly treatment Kuenssberg gave Badenoch is in stark contrast to her treatment of Cooper We have it on very good authority that Kuenssberg is "a very fine journalist." Andrew Neil told us so.
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Post by birdseye on Jan 28, 2024 12:05:40 GMT
Talk from tories of bias against them by the BBC, but the reverential and friendly treatment Kuenssberg gave Badenoch is in stark contrast to her treatment of Cooper That clip illustrates absolutely nothing. There is a cultural anti Tory bias on the BBC which comes not from policy so much as the demographic from which they recruit. The mainly middle class arts graduates who go straight into the Beeb from academia which itself is overwhelmingly left leaning. P.S. Just watched part of the Badenoch interview on the TV whilst munching lunch. Comes over very well and straight talking. Almost "normal" rather than "politician".
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Post by Dave on Jan 28, 2024 12:05:55 GMT
The cricket - just wow! Fourth innings or not, but to bowl India out for around 200 on their own turf takes some doing. 🏴
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Post by birdseye on Jan 28, 2024 12:14:51 GMT
alec Re NI and limiting further divergence from the EU, Badenoch was challenged on that by Villiers in the HoC. Having said that she could not comment on the reports about a NI deal, she went on to say: "What I will say is that we retain the ability to diverge, that is clear, and I do agree with her that if we are really to seize the benefits of Brexit we need to find that comparative advantage in our regulations with the EU, otherwise there would be no point." Reality slowly dawning. That isnt something new. The only economic reason for leaving would be to find advantage in being outside - there were of course emotional / patriotic reasons which were what carried the day. Personally I voted remain not our of an great love of the EU but because I was convinced that the British government and people would not be willing to do what was necessary to take advantage of being outside. We are too comfortable, too fond of our public services, too un-dynamic ( if there is such a word) to do the complete re-build that would be necessary to win out. We are happy drifting in slow relative decline post empire.
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Post by pjw1961 on Jan 28, 2024 12:17:36 GMT
The cricket - just wow! Fourth innings or not, but to bowl India out for around 200 on their own turf takes some doing. 🏴 And lets not overlook this. Very good for the game. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKE1215925Two amazing matches at the same time
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Post by Rafwan on Jan 28, 2024 12:23:00 GMT
Talk from tories of bias against them by the BBC, but the reverential and friendly treatment Kuenssberg gave Badenoch is in stark contrast to her treatment of Cooper That clip illustrates absolutely nothing. There is a cultural anti Tory bias on the BBC which comes not from policy so much as the demographic from which they recruit. The mainly middle class arts graduates who go straight into the Beeb from academia which itself is overwhelmingly left leaning. You are having a laugh, aren’t you!! That really is complete drivel, fed by extraordinary right-wing fantasy about the world!!
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Post by Dave on Jan 28, 2024 12:37:25 GMT
Well said Rafwan.
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Post by steve on Jan 28, 2024 12:37:52 GMT
birdseye More than half of the BBC directors and " stars" attended public schools more BBC directors are alumni of fee charging elitist , Tory prime minister generator, Eton college alone than all comprehensive schools in the UK combined. Eton charges around £50,000 a year, higher than the take home income of an individual other than the top 15% , to suggest "The mainly middle class arts graduates who go straight into the Beeb from academia which itself is overwhelmingly left leaning." Is total bollocks .
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Post by Old Southendian on Jan 28, 2024 13:03:33 GMT
Cabin Pressure was our go-to when driving anywhere on holiday. By rationing it to one or two per trip it lasted us years, and I was genuinely sad when they got to Zurich. For the uninitiated, a jobbing TV writer John Finnemore wrote a great radio sitcom and somehow got Benedict Cumberbatch, Roger Allam and Stephanie Cole to voice it with him. It's a work of art. (for a loop back to the TV chat, Stephanie Cole was also the Black Widow in Open All Hours, some 30 years earlier whilst she was still in her late thirties) Agree with everything apart from "jobbing". It's clear he was a genius from the start, and it's a real shame that he's not better known. That's the disadvantage of (mostly) sticking to radio I suppose. His sketch series is inspired in a way which seems unimaginable in a world where sketch comedy seemed to have more or less run out of steam. Probably best around series 3-6, but good stuff everywhere, and the most recent series (9) was incredibly ambitious. Perhaps challenging to get into to start with, but ultimately very rewarding, it strung together a family history over about 4 generations in an extremely non-linear (time-wise) fashion over the course of 6 episodes via many individual sketches. Quite brilliant and touching, as well as being funny. But if you don't want to be challenged, then start with one of the earlier series.
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Post by barbara on Jan 28, 2024 13:16:55 GMT
9 miles in which direction? I'm 17 miles. Obviously east. The buses must have sunk.... Well I'm south and of course there's always north!
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Post by robbiealive on Jan 28, 2024 13:22:36 GMT
@ Robbie, The Golden age of Sitcoms seems to have been the 70's and 80's I wonder if the appeal to some extent is that they evoke memories of watching them with family members who are no longer with us or now live far away. growing up, it was always something we did as a family. I still enjoy the re-runs of Dads Army, Yes Minister, The Good Life, the ensemble playing is excellent with Paul Eddington a stand out. Some of the broader ones have perhaps not stood the test of time, but even those can raise a smile, it's the attempt to make you laugh that makes me laugh if that makes any sense! One from the early 2000's Early Doors is a masterpiece In my opinion written in part by Craig Cash dopey Dave from The Royale Family. The appeal of old sitcoms is indeed that they are comforting family entertainments. Hard to say what the essentials are. 1. One criterion is that nothing disturbing or threatening ever happens. (The first grown-up programme my small daughter liked was Dad's Army. She instintively grasped as kids do that nothing nasty would happen.) The situations are usually humdrum realism tho often projected into the wider social world (tho a few have elements of fantasy) & are far less metropolitan-centered than TV usually is: tho only 1 or 2 venture outside England. The characters are static, exaggerated & more eccentric versions of ordinary people who hv ambitions & yearnings which are repeatedly frustrated. Failure is in-built. Life is a series of small defeats tho the events are everyday ones. Not epiphanies. 2. This requires repetitive plots & we invariably end up where we started. This iron format is 30-minute, self-contained playlets, tho Xmas specials can extend running time. The film spin-offs by depicting in full what is usually left to the viewers imagination not always successful The sitcom story can sometimes move on as the stars age but at a glacial pace. Bob does eventually marry Thelma. 3. They are usually male-dominated but there are women-centred ones & female characters often hold their own. 4. Comedy series have replaced them which allow much more room for character & plot development & bigger life events within given situations. Are Gavin & Stacey, Peep Show, Fleabag, The Detectorists sitcoms. No one mentioned them. It's as though the art form is restricted to the past. It's nostalgia about old TV that is often nostalgic in itself.
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 28, 2024 13:25:14 GMT
The cricket - just wow! Fourth innings or not, but to bowl India out for around 200 on their own turf takes some doing. 🏴 And lets not overlook this. Very good for the game. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKE1215925Two amazing matches at the same time Great to see the Windies win in Australia. First for almost thirty years, I believe. As you say, great for Test cricket and the world game. I feel a little more confident now about the ticket I bought recently for the Fifth Day of the England v Windies Test match at Edgbaston on Tuesday, July 30th. I might actually see some cricket now rather than have to claim my £20 refund!
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Post by pjw1961 on Jan 28, 2024 13:34:21 GMT
Great to see the Windies win in Australia. First for almost thirty years, I believe. As you say, great for Test cricket and the world game. I feel a little more confident now about the ticket I bought recently for the Fifth Day of the England v Windies Test match at Edgbaston on Tuesday, July 30th.I might actually see some cricket now rather than have to claim my £20 refund! I hate to break it to you batty, but both tests finished on the 4th day!
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 28, 2024 13:40:26 GMT
Great to see the Windies win in Australia. First for almost thirty years, I believe. As you say, great for Test cricket and the world game. I feel a little more confident now about the ticket I bought recently for the Fifth Day of the England v Windies Test match at Edgbaston on Tuesday, July 30th.I might actually see some cricket now rather than have to claim my £20 refund! I hate to break it to you batty, but both tests finished in the 4th day! I'm hoping for rain interventions!
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Post by leftieliberal on Jan 28, 2024 13:47:31 GMT
Oh well, if we're doing radio... The Glums The Navy Lark The Goon Show (of course) Whatever the Hancock series was called Educating Archie (Ventriloquism on the radio!) Cabin Pressure Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy etc A lot of TV shows started on radio including Hancock and Hitch-Hikers How can you miss out "Round the Horne" and "I'm sorry I'll read that again". It was "Hancock's Half Hour" BTW.
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Post by birdseye on Jan 28, 2024 14:29:26 GMT
birdseye More than half of the BBC directors and " stars" attended public schools more BBC directors are alumni of fee charging elitist , Tory prime minister generator, Eton college alone than all comprehensive schools in the UK combined. Eton charges around £50,000 a year, higher than the take home income of an individual other than the top 15% , to suggest "The mainly middle class arts graduates who go straight into the Beeb from academia which itself is overwhelmingly left leaning." Is total bollocks . Thats a crude assumption that your school dictates your politics and not only that but that what an interviewer like Laura does is dictated by the BBC directors. My daughter worked for many years at high level in the BBC trust and what I have written is based on her inside experience. What do you have to offer other than envy based prejudice? P.S. Having some time to spare I trawled through the bio of the BBC board and found not a single person who had been to Eton or indeed any other of the top private schools. Yes I did find several who had been to minor public schools plus some to grammar schools and state schools but that proves nothing much. Given how poor state schools are it follows that any middle class family who can afford the do the best for their offspring will send them private. Personally I would prefer the board of an organisation like the BBC to have been well educated. Wouldnt you|? PPS Perhaps surprisingly , all bar 1 of the directors is white. Could be 2 or mabe he has been on hols to somewhere warm. Bit surprising for such a woke organisation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2024 14:31:44 GMT
Obviously east. The buses must have sunk.... Well I'm south and of course there's always north! I’m always learning something in this site.
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Jan 28, 2024 15:04:51 GMT
Well I'm south and of course there's always north! I’m always learning something in this site. And that's from our south west Sunderland regional transport reporter in B'nard Chateau
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Post by steve on Jan 28, 2024 15:46:42 GMT
"Thats a crude assumption that your school dictates your politics"
20 out of 57 UK prime ministers attended Eton, 7 went to Harrow and six including Sunakered went to Westminster, just 11 prime minister's have been state educated, the only prime minister to attend a comprehensive school is sadly Liz Truss,Dr Gordon Brown is the only Prime minister to complete a PHd
No prime minister since the Earl of Roseburry,1894-95 who attended Eton has been other than a Tory.
It's not an assumption it's a historical fact
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Post by guymonde on Jan 28, 2024 15:52:52 GMT
Talking of rubbish, did anyone catch Laura Kuensberg abysmal pollish drivel on the BBC news? If you missed it, there will apparently be an extended version and an interview with Kemi Badenoch to boot tomorrow. So heartening to see BBC getting back to its history of truly neutral and erudite analysis of current affairs I try not to catch Kuenssberg - its very unpleasant. Symptoms include severe irritation and an irrational desire to throw things at your TV. Yes. She popped up with a ludicrous and long thing in the middle of the news which was anything but. She was explaining that the people moved from Lab to Con in 2019 wouldn't come back. I decided to get my Green Ink out and wrote to Complaints, signing myself Sir Bufton Tufton
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Post by guymonde on Jan 28, 2024 15:58:28 GMT
That clip illustrates absolutely nothing. There is a cultural anti Tory bias on the BBC which comes not from policy so much as the demographic from which they recruit. The mainly middle class arts graduates who go straight into the Beeb from academia which itself is overwhelmingly left leaning. You are having a laugh, aren’t you!! That really is complete drivel, fed by extraordinary right-wing fantasy about the world!! I served my sentence on the news last night. I was let off the Kuensberg detention because of good behaviour
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Post by Rafwan on Jan 28, 2024 16:08:50 GMT
More rib-aching fantasy from the right! Clearly runs in the family, too!
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Post by steve on Jan 28, 2024 16:18:47 GMT
"My daughter worked for many years at high level in the BBC trust and what I have written is based on her inside experience. What do you have to offer other than envy based prejudice?"
why would I be envious of someone working at the BBC . I had a real job!
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Post by steve on Jan 28, 2024 16:27:36 GMT
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Post by steve on Jan 28, 2024 16:37:29 GMT
Liar liar Brexit Badenoch's pants on fire. Despite provable,irrefutable evidence to the contrary, the arrogance and the lies continue unabated over the "benefits" of Brexit. Brexit-fallacy-bingo card is full. youtu.be/je7yy_Si26s?si=Z12ycRLTieLG2CbK
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Post by Dave on Jan 28, 2024 16:52:11 GMT
Birdseye isaid … What do you have to offer other than envy based prejudice?
Despite, sadly, being in charge of our nations for the last 14 years, what have the right in this country had to offer, or deliver these last 14 long years?
Anyway, back on point, stupidity like this post seems to be a right-wing mantra. How arrogant. How detached from reality. How presumptive it is - if only we were successful - if only we weren’t envious - we’d go along with your shitty, busted, out of time thinking.
Hint for you - I don’t envy you. I don’t envy your politics. Your lot have had their time. If it makes in any easier for you to feel superior as your failed politics slips down the drain, then crack on. So, no envy on my part - just a delight that your lot’s time is done and maybe that will temper your no-reason-for it condescension in the future.
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