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Post by alec on Jan 7, 2024 13:01:17 GMT
colin - "And do you remember the Second Sight guy finally tracking the "recovered" money down in a "suspense account" & saying it had ended up in PO profits ?!" From media reports into the police investigation, it sounds like this is now the subject of fraud investigations.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2024 13:01:48 GMT
The article suggests Starmer is very reluctant to commit to tax cuts and indeed would reintroduce Inheritance Tax if the tories cut it "Sir Keir Starmer refused to commit to tax cuts or unfreezing thresholds - but said he would reverse any cuts to inheritance tax the Tories might make... When asked by our political editor Beth Rigby if a Labour government would commit to cutting taxes "on day one", Sir Keir said his priority would be to grow the economy "because that's been the single biggest failure of the last 14 years". He added: "We have said on taxes that we do want to lower the burden of working people, but that has got to be fair and it's got to be affordable" Seems good to me I agree ( jesting apart ) Its that "growth lever" which is more problematic. More on that for the masses no doubt in due course.
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Post by robbiealive on Jan 7, 2024 13:17:50 GMT
PS SELF-SATISFACTION RULES Now we find alec congratulating himself, and being congratulated by others, who are also congratulating themselves, for his/their percipience in identifying structral slowness in the UK government remedying deep injustices, including Horizon. Well done: but a bit late old boys! Another example, from the stacks available. "Until 2022, no compensation had ever been paid to victims of the contaminated blood scandal in the UK." [re hemophilliacs]. That is 50 years after the infections occurred. It's about them not us for christ's sake. Learn some respect.
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Post by neilj on Jan 7, 2024 13:24:40 GMT
PS SELF-SATISFACTION RULES Now we find alec congratulating himself, and being congratulated by others, who are also congratulating themselves, for his/their percipience in identifying structral slowness in the UK government remedying deep injustices, including Horizon. Well done: but a bit late old boys! Another example, from the stacks available. "Until 2022, no compensation had ever been paid to victims of the contaminated blood scandal in the UK." [re hemophilliacs]. That is 50 years after the infections occurred. It's about them not us for christ's sake. Learn some respect. Congratulations
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Post by robbiealive on Jan 7, 2024 14:07:41 GMT
PS SELF-SATISFACTION RULES Now we find alec congratulating himself, and being congratulated by others, who are also congratulating themselves, for his/their percipience in identifying structral slowness in the UK government remedying deep injustices, including Horizon. Well done: but a bit late old boys! Another example, from the stacks available. "Until 2022, no compensation had ever been paid to victims of the contaminated blood scandal in the UK." [re hemophilliacs]. That is 50 years after the infections occurred. It's about them not us for christ's sake. Learn some respect. Congratulations Sorry: I'm one of the few remaining members of an English Revolutionary sect. The Ranters. We all know the story. 1. Institutions make mistakes & cover them up. 2. If exposed, they drag their feet, hoping everyone will get bored & go back to talking about the footie. 3. Sometimes under relentless pressure from inspired groups, they occasionally pay up, verrry slowly. 4. Public outrage demands blood: focuses on individuals not systemic problems. 5. A few low-grade employees get nasty punishments. Bosses removed with a big pay out: rehabilitated: pop up in charge of something else. [Bit like footie managers]. Brexit is the ultimate mistake. 1. Thesis: Brexit will be great immediately. Fantasy. 2. It isn't. Retrofit the thesis to fit the new facts. (Bit like the Intelligent Design scammers.) It will be great in 5 years, 10 years etc. Remainers are talking-down UK, blah Zzzz 3. There is no escape, as admitting liability would mean the end of the Tory Party. 4. We are all dead, at least I am.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2024 14:15:34 GMT
robbiealive “We are all dead, at least I am.” If that’s true Robbie I do hope you keep posting. I think of your posty pearls as an oasis in a desert of dross*. (* I exaggerate for poetic purposes - it’s not all dross but I do think crayons and Mr Hitler should be banned.)
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Post by graham on Jan 7, 2024 14:54:31 GMT
Apparently Peter Bone's current partner has been selected as the Tory candidate for Wellingborough! This will ensure he does not stand himself.
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Post by steve on Jan 7, 2024 15:14:53 GMT
Peter Bone's current partner That tendons to happen with joints of gammon.
At least wellingborough will have the choice of a far right Tory half bones age.
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 7, 2024 15:24:41 GMT
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I believe the ""Hateful Eight" was an unpublished Enid Blyton novel, written during her dark period when depression got the better of her.
Rumour has it in the literary world that it was her finest work.
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 7, 2024 15:26:03 GMT
Peter Bone's current partner That tendons to happen with joints of gammon. At least wellingborough will have the choice of a far right Tory half bones age. Tendons and joints. Clever wordplay, Steve.
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Post by mark61 on Jan 7, 2024 16:05:22 GMT
The Conservatives have selected Helen Harrison Current partner ( are they not married?, Very mauve I must say!) of disgraced Wellingborough MP Peter Bone to contest the forthcoming By-Election, Were there no other candidates? I'm trying to work this out from the Local Associations point of view, Is there perhaps a groundswell of support in Wellingborough that believes he has been unfairly treated and the victim of some Woke conspiracy?, and thus by selecting his current partner they hope to tap into some groundswell of support for PB. Is it the only way they can ensure he doesn't stand as an independent? Seems bonkers to me, but perhaps after all the talent pool in the Conservative party may not be quite as deep as they would have us believe!
Earlier The Prime Minister outlined another winning strategy of funding tax cuts by attacking Welfare, particularly disability benefits, and also now an ITV programme has meant the Postmasters scandal has gained some traction with the public he thinks it might be time to do something about it. He is like the passenger of a stricken jumbo Jet who has taken over the controls and is pressing random buttons and pulling various levers in hope of a miracle.
It is hard to see what form that miracle could take, in order for the Conservatives to win a fifth term, they can't run on their record because it is terrible I can't think of one single achievement in the last 7 years. I think as predicted by many it will be a depressingly negative campaign referencing all of the Right's Culture War back catalogue, hopefully this will alienate as many as it attracts, I wouldn't rule out some last minute compromise with Ref UK. Andrew Rawnsleys article refers to Sir Keir trying to hit the sweet spot of reassuring the Electorate and at the same time offer some hope that things may get better, I think Rawnsley may be right that the public are not in the mood to be swept away by grand visions, I sincerely hope the offer of competence and pragmatic improvement is enough in the autumn, the alternative really doesn't bear thinking about.
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Post by guymonde on Jan 7, 2024 16:15:33 GMT
Sorry: I'm one of the few remaining members of an English Revolutionary sect. The Ranters. We all know the story. 1. Institutions make mistakes & cover them up. 2. If exposed, they drag their feet, hoping everyone will get bored & go back to talking about the footie. 3. Sometimes under relentless pressure from inspired groups, they occasionally pay up, verrry slowly. 4. Public outrage demands blood: focuses on individuals not systemic problems. 5. A few low-grade employees get nasty punishments. I'm trying to claim on an insurance claim for cancelled travel in October 2022. I have just threatened them with legal action. It all seems rather familiar. Though to be fair nobody has threatened to imprison me.
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Post by steve on Jan 7, 2024 16:23:23 GMT
The honourable member from the nineteenth century delivers his election message by the medium of Mr Baird's new fangled televisor. However Mr Mogg was as usual engaging in podsnappery kuger spoofing, the bounder. youtu.be/ozI18dfG3TQ?si=er3zD_l8VUkbQ_O6
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Post by steve on Jan 7, 2024 16:35:39 GMT
War criminal Putin 's winter offensive appears to have run out of steam, tens of thousands of young Russian men have been killed or mutilated in Russian meat grinder offensives against robust and better equipped Ukrainian defenders . The achievements Putin's troops control several more trees and a slag heap. youtu.be/BCZZrFnm1O0?si=vQCfc-59xxTxLUdt
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Post by graham on Jan 7, 2024 16:51:49 GMT
'Vote for Peter Bone's mistress - his latest bit on the side!' I am not sure this will appeal to a certain type of older Tory voter somehow.
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Post by pjw1961 on Jan 7, 2024 17:41:17 GMT
War criminal Putin 's winter offensive appears to have run out of steam, tens of thousands of young Russian men have been killed or mutilated in Russian meat grinder offensives against robust and better equipped Ukrainian defenders . The achievements Putin's troops control several more trees and a slag heap. youtu.be/BCZZrFnm1O0?si=vQCfc-59xxTxLUdtYour commitment to the Ukrainian cause is commendable steve, but unfortunately, with a few minor wording changes, that would also be a description of the Ukrainian summer offensive. Its a stalemate at present and meanwhile Putin's 5th column in the West (see Orban, the US Republican Party, etc.) are doing a excellent job of weakening the Ukrainian position.
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Post by pjw1961 on Jan 7, 2024 17:47:57 GMT
"The Hateful Eight" is a rather negative take on fellow posters. Perhaps we could have a "Magnificent Seven" as counterbalance - I would propose JamesE and Jimjam as founder members for their many helpful posts on polling matters.
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Post by pjw1961 on Jan 7, 2024 18:00:48 GMT
robbiealive I believe the ""Hateful Eight" was an unpublished Enid Blyton novel, written during her dark period when depression got the better of her. Rumour has it in the literary world that it was her finest work. Presumably, that would be before Enid came to terms with her trans status, transitioned to a new gender and renamed himself Quentin.
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Post by barbara on Jan 7, 2024 18:44:32 GMT
"The Hateful Eight" is a rather negative take on fellow posters. Perhaps we could have a "Magnificent Seven" as counterbalance - I would propose JamesE and Jimjam as founder members for their many helpful posts on polling matters. And eor, pjw among others
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 7, 2024 19:27:25 GMT
"The Hateful Eight" is a rather negative take on fellow posters. Perhaps we could have a "Magnificent Seven" as counterbalance - I would propose JamesE and Jimjam as founder members for their many helpful posts on polling matters. I tend to agree, although I doubt any one of us would nominate the same seven posters. That's probably how it should be too. Personal foibles, preferences etc Personally, I was disappointed not to make Robbie's hateful eight but I might put Robbie in my magnificent seven if I ever came to compile such a list. I see him as the site's Pomposity Puncturer in chief and scourge of the more self important amongst us. I find that his occasional forays on to this forum are invariably welcome breaths of fresh air. Essential debunkings of a forum that can get very clubbish, claustrophobic and far too pleased with itself.
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Post by pjw1961 on Jan 7, 2024 19:27:53 GMT
"The Hateful Eight" is a rather negative take on fellow posters. Perhaps we could have a "Magnificent Seven" as counterbalance - I would propose JamesE and Jimjam as founder members for their many helpful posts on polling matters. And eor, pjw among others Agreed. And I was thinking of nominating you and Lulu for putting up with us cantankerous and opinionated old blokes.
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Post by pjw1961 on Jan 7, 2024 19:31:03 GMT
"The Hateful Eight" is a rather negative take on fellow posters. Perhaps we could have a "Magnificent Seven" as counterbalance - I would propose JamesE and Jimjam as founder members for their many helpful posts on polling matters. I tend to agree, although I doubt any one of us would nominate the same seven posters. That's probably how it should be too. Personal foibles, preferences etc Personally, I was disappointed not to make Robbie's hateful eight but I might put Robbie in my magnificent seven if I ever came to compile such a list. I see him as the site's Pomposity Puncturer in chief and scourge of the more self important amongst us. I find that his occasional forays on to this forum are invariably welcome breaths of fresh air. Essential debunkings of a forum that can get very clubbish, claustrophobic and far too pleased with itself. In all fairness, and meaning no offence, but he comes over as fairly pompous himself at times.
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 7, 2024 19:31:34 GMT
robbiealive I believe the ""Hateful Eight" was an unpublished Enid Blyton novel, written during her dark period when depression got the better of her. Rumour has it in the literary world that it was her finest work. Presumably, that would be before Enid came to terms with her trans status, transitioned to a new gender and renamed himself Quentin. Is this the Enid Blyton that the Telegraph and Rod Liddle claim Tower Hamlets Council have now got on their recommended children's reading list??
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 7, 2024 19:36:17 GMT
I tend to agree, although I doubt any one of us would nominate the same seven posters. That's probably how it should be too. Personal foibles, preferences etc Personally, I was disappointed not to make Robbie's hateful eight but I might put Robbie in my magnificent seven if I ever came to compile such a list. I see him as the site's Pomposity Puncturer in chief and scourge of the more self important amongst us. I find that his occasional forays on to this forum are invariably welcome breaths of fresh air. Essential debunkings of a forum that can get very clubbish, claustrophobic and far too pleased with itself. In all fairness, and meaning no offence, but he comes over as fairly pompous himself at times. Like all of us, he's not without his imperfections, and a poster as robust as Robbie doesn't need me to defend him, but I stick with my view that a forum like this benefits from an iconoclast like him.
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Post by mercian on Jan 7, 2024 20:03:16 GMT
I tend to agree, although I doubt any one of us would nominate the same seven posters. That's probably how it should be too. Personal foibles, preferences etc Personally, I was disappointed not to make Robbie's hateful eight but I might put Robbie in my magnificent seven if I ever came to compile such a list. I see him as the site's Pomposity Puncturer in chief and scourge of the more self important amongst us. I find that his occasional forays on to this forum are invariably welcome breaths of fresh air. Essential debunkings of a forum that can get very clubbish, claustrophobic and far too pleased with itself. In all fairness, and meaning no offence, but he comes over as fairly pompous himself at times. I assumed batty was being sarcastic, but maybe not. It's hard to tell sometimes.
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Post by robbiealive on Jan 7, 2024 20:08:27 GMT
THE HATEFUL EIGHT: THE DEEP STATE While I do not object to any of the names suggested as members-elect of the Magnificent Seven, (apart from that posing, ponderous, prattling, prating, prolix fink pjw1961 , and I offer him no physical threats for his insult, as no punishment could equal the living hell of residing in Braintree, the effluent capital of excremental Essex, may he rot there for ever & God heap burning coals on his head & all those of his progeny) may I suggest naming people is a grave error. The Hateful Eight are the Deep State of the forum: no one knows who they are: a shifting group, in and out of which people slither, etc. The Mag Seven should also be a protean one in people's minds & hence its members should be anonymous? (I quite like pjw1961 s posts. He's a trifle earnest, but mild and incapable of offending anyone.).
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Post by Dave on Jan 7, 2024 20:17:16 GMT
Dave It was " richiebabe" ( nope me neither) his posts appear to have disappeared, thoughts and prayers! View AttachmentThanks Steve. A poster that passed me by tbh, but I dare say they say the same thing about me 🙂
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Post by jib on Jan 7, 2024 20:48:10 GMT
Apparently this Twitter (or is it X?) user really likes telling people to resign.....
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Post by pjw1961 on Jan 7, 2024 21:01:28 GMT
THE HATEFUL EIGHT: THE DEEP STATE While I do not object to any of the names suggested as members-elect of the Magnificent Seven, (apart from that posing, ponderous, prattling, prating, prolix fink pjw1961 , and I offer him no physical threats for his insult, as no punishment could equal the living hell of residing in Braintree, the effluent capital of excremental Essex, may he rot there for ever & God heap burning coals on his head & all those of his progeny) may I suggest naming people is a grave error. The Hateful Eight are the Deep State of the forum: no one knows who they are: a shifting group, in and out of which people slither, etc. The Mag Seven should also be a protean one in people's minds & hence its members should be anonymous? (I quite like pjw1961 s posts. He's a trifle earnest, but mild and incapable of offending anyone.). Just for clarity, I certainly wasn't nominating myself for the 7 . I think I've worked out who the 8 are, but I agree, such things are best kept under wraps. As to the rest of your post I entirely endorse it save for the part about my progeny, who I assure you are blameless for the sins of their father.
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Post by pjw1961 on Jan 7, 2024 21:06:37 GMT
Presumably, that would be before Enid came to terms with her trans status, transitioned to a new gender and renamed himself Quentin. Is this the Enid Blyton that the Telegraph and Rod Liddle claim Tower Hamlets Council have now got on their recommended children's reading list?? My joke was a daft one but, given the difference in their artistic output, there is something about the idea that Enid Blyton and Quentin Tarantino are the same person that I find hugely amusing. I have visions of Noddy running amok in Toy Town with a sawn-off shotgun. UPDATE - I'm afraid Noddy has just been taken out by a SWAT team led by PC Plod.
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