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Post by domjg on Mar 25, 2023 22:54:13 GMT
The second Putin uses a tactical nuke in anger in Ukraine or anywhere he commits suicide. I think he's well aware of that Dom. But what's he got to lose, his days are numbered anyway. And the frightening fact is that due to overwhelming weight of numbers a lot of his nuclear warheads will get through to their targets in the West. Well if he wants Russia to disappear from the map as a functional entity yes. Not sure he wants that to be his historical legacy. He has to make us think he's potentially bonkers for the irrational threats to work but he has family, children. He may be detached from reality but he's not a madman and even if he were it wouldn't just be up to him. |
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Post by bardin1 on Mar 25, 2023 22:55:20 GMT
But Steve, surely you don`t think that the BBC has only a studio in London from which they could output current-affairs programmes. For example in Lancashire there are many people of Asian origin, and they could be involved in programmes broadcast from Manchester or Salford. Then we wouldn`t have Anita Anand, blinkered to SE England, but doing Any Answers for the whole UK and now often Friday`s 5PM, dealing with a person ringing in to AA today, as from "Dumfermline in Scotland". None of her other numerous callers were consigned to "in England" but got their local or shire location given. It`s as though Anita thinks there is one standard view that exists across the whole of Scotland, whereas for England there will be variation between Cumbria, Devon and Essex. So a person from Fife will not have a view on shipbuilding capability different from a person from Dumbartonshire, or on the NI protocal different from an Orangeman from Lanarkshire, and on religion different from someone who stays in the Western Isles. ...and we had a revival of that England = Britain spectacle at the women's rugby today. Flower of Scotland played and the announcer stated "andnow the english national anthem" and God Save the King started. What were the Scottish women supposed to do at that point, I wondered - sing along with the English anthem? |
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Post by steve on Mar 25, 2023 22:55:40 GMT
jibIt's rife. From the brown envelopes of the 90s to Jack "Are you suggesting £10,000 a month? make that … £12,000 a month. I think we could do a deal on that” Cunningham. Lobbying is a cancer of modern politics, probably not just the modern either. Agreed For example, we now know that the EU referendum was won with the help of widespread cheating. We still don’t know the origins of much of the money spent by the leave campaigns. For example, we have no idea who provided the £435,000 channelled through Scotland, into Northern Ireland, through the coffers of the Democratic Unionist party and back into Scotland and England, to pay for pro-Brexit ads. Nor do we know the original source of the £8m that Arron Banks delivered to the Leave.EU campaign. We do know that both of the main leave campaigns have been fined for illegal activities, and that the conduct of the referendum has damaged many people’s faith in the political system. Glad we agree on something.
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Post by domjg on Mar 25, 2023 22:58:52 GMT
Medvedev's threat, for what it was worth, seemed to be directed at Ukraine itself, i.e. "invade Crimea and we will use battlefield nukes", rather than the west. I found it an interesting comment on Russia's weakness that Medvedev was even worried about a Ukrainian threat to Crimea. Well he threatened Germany with a nuclear strike just 2 days ago - apnews.com/article/medvedev-nuclear-putin-arrest-warrant-germany-ukraine-6dcde92e06f41a7c5cb7386f7939df33 It's precisely because Russia is so weak on the conventional front that we have to take the nuclear threats seriously. My hope is that Russian troops can be pushed right out of Ukraine and that a deal will be negotiated to allow self-determination for Crimea. We absolutely do not have to take Russian nuclear threats seriously unless NATO were mounting a major land invasion of the country. I'm sure you'll agree that's pretty unlikely to happen.. |
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Post by Mark on Mar 25, 2023 23:06:37 GMT
Why Poland Mark? London is top of Putin's target list. Medvedev has made it clear that Russia will go nuclear if Crimea is threatened. And Medvedev just says what he thinks Putin wants to hear. Because Poland borders Belarus. Having said that, if things ever get to the point of Putin lobbing nukes around, it's likely game over for all of us. |
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Post by mercian on Mar 25, 2023 23:07:16 GMT
But Steve, surely you don`t think that the BBC has only a studio in London from which they could output current-affairs programmes. For example in Lancashire there are many people of Asian origin, and they could be involved in programmes broadcast from Manchester or Salford. Then we wouldn`t have Anita Anand, blinkered to SE England, but doing Any Answers for the whole UK and now often Friday`s 5PM, dealing with a person ringing in to AA today, as from "Dumfermline in Scotland". None of her other numerous callers were consigned to "in England" but got their local or shire location given. It`s as though Anita thinks there is one standard view that exists across the whole of Scotland, whereas for England there will be variation between Cumbria, Devon and Essex. So a person from Fife will not have a view on shipbuilding capability different from a person from Dumbartonshire, or on the NI protocal different from an Orangeman from Lanarkshire, and on religion different from someone who stays in the Western Isles. ...and we had a revival of that England = Britain spectacle at the women's rugby today. Flower of Scotland played and the announcer stated "andnow the english national anthem" and God Save the King started. What were the Scottish women supposed to do at that point, I wondered - sing along with the English anthem? I believe that the Victorians made a big mistake in having separate teams for the 'Home Nations'. I wonder if there had been a UK team from the beginning there'd have been less sub-nationalism now. Mind you I suppose in the early days of Football and Rugby anyway, there wouldn't have been anyone else to play. |
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Post by jib on Mar 25, 2023 23:08:06 GMT
jib It's rife. From the brown envelopes of the 90s to Jack "Are you suggesting £10,000 a month? make that … £12,000 a month. I think we could do a deal on that” Cunningham. Lobbying is a cancer of modern politics, probably not just the modern either. Agreed For example, we now know that the EU referendum was won with the help of widespread cheating. We still don’t know the origins of much of the money spent by the leave campaigns. For example, we have no idea who provided the £435,000 channelled through Scotland, into Northern Ireland, through the coffers of the Democratic Unionist party and back into Scotland and England, to pay for pro-Brexit ads. Nor do we know the original source of the £8m that Arron Banks delivered to the Leave.EU campaign. We do know that both of the main leave campaigns have been fined for illegal activities, and that the conduct of the referendum has damaged many people’s faith in the political system. Glad we agree on something. No, Leave won because more people voted that way. Net spend was Remain: £19,309,588 vs Leave: £13,332,569 www.electoralcommission.org.uk/who-we-are-and-what-we-do/elections-and-referendums/past-elections-and-referendums/eu-referendum/campaign-spending-eu-referendumI'm glad I could help you resolve that one. It's unfortunate the Remain campaign was so incompetent. |
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Post by lens on Mar 25, 2023 23:09:28 GMT
Danny - whilst Ukraine undoubtably is a source of such minerals, don't overplay their importance. Contrary to a lot of popular belief, a lot of "rare minerals" are not rare at all worldwide. a nation whose main source of income is selling fosil fuels to a wordl pledged to stop using them, is desperately in need of a means to diversify. They are likely worth a lot more to Russia than to the rest of the world. But they are only worth anything if there is a potential buyer - and why should the west buy such from Russia, anymore than buying oil and gas from Russia now? My point is that they are valuable, yes...... but it's far from as if they can only be sourced from the area of Ukraine under Russian control. "Rare minerals" are not actually that rare worldwide. |
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Post by steve on Mar 25, 2023 23:18:16 GMT
jibNaturally you haven't addressed the source of the dark money from foreign agents who wished the UK harm that poured into the leave campaign. Not remotely surprising from a cult member but still a tad disappointing.
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Post by oldnat on Mar 25, 2023 23:47:33 GMT
...and we had a revival of that England = Britain spectacle at the women's rugby today. Flower of Scotland played and the announcer stated "andnow the english national anthem" and God Save the King started. What were the Scottish women supposed to do at that point, I wondered - sing along with the English anthem? I believe that the Victorians made a big mistake in having separate teams for the 'Home Nations'. I wonder if there had been a UK team from the beginning there'd have been less sub-nationalism now. Mind you I suppose in the early days of Football and Rugby anyway, there wouldn't have been anyone else to play.
When the Imperial Parliament dealt mainly with imperial and foreign affairs, there was no need for central regulation of domestic matters within the UK. As central government involvement in social matters increased, administrative devolution to add to the powers reserved to non-English members of the UK Union sufficed - though the Goschen and then Barnett formulas demonstrated the weaknesses of that ad hoc arrangement.
With no unifying imperial construct remaining, and the gradual destruction of many of the remaining pan-GB institutions, we ended up in the current binary conflict - British Unity v Autonomy for the component parts of the UK. Unsurprisingly "British Unity" mainly entails what suits the numerically dominant part of the UK. |
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Post by oldnat on Mar 26, 2023 0:52:11 GMT
Got my new unit cost prices from Utilita.
As we have reduced consumption over the last year, my estimated annual bill is marginally less than I currently pay.
However, part of our savings planning was to move more electricity consumption on to offpeak. I presume that others have done the same, which will be why they have marginally reduced the cost of each daytime kwh, but more than quadrupled the offpeak rate.
Since the wind in Scotland doesn't drop noticeably overnight, and the production and distribution costs are constant, I suspect that the only variable explaining this change is their profit margin.
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Post by oldnat on Mar 26, 2023 1:00:42 GMT
Interesting that the worthy inhabitants of South West Norfolk appear to enthusiastically endorse the destruction of the UK economy.
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Post by graham on Mar 26, 2023 1:27:09 GMT
Interesting that the worthy inhabitants of South West Norfolk appear to enthusiastically endorse the destruction of the UK economy. It was a Labour-held seat until 1964! |
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Post by alec on Mar 26, 2023 6:43:12 GMT
For those interested, I've jut posted a very positive bit of news over on the covid thread relating to a recently published Finnish paper reporting some excellent results from a pan-variant prophylactic nasal spray. The results are from mice experiments, but look extremely encouraging.
My view remains that if we retained our focus on multi-layered controls and aggressive research and development of long term pharmaceutical solutions, we could eliminate covid (technical meaning of the term). I'm never one to give up, or sit back and take the shit just because everyone tells me it's inevitable.
"It always seems impossible until it's done", as Nelson Mandela once said.
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Post by domjg on Mar 26, 2023 7:20:45 GMT
Interesting that the worthy inhabitants of South West Norfolk appear to enthusiastically endorse the destruction of the UK economy. Have you ever been to Norfolk (city of Norwich itself excepted)? Stopped in a rural pub there enroute for a needed coffee once. The general air of menace. The appearance that the Express is the only newspaper in existence.. |
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Post by Danny on Mar 26, 2023 7:22:41 GMT
My view remains that if we retained our focus on multi-layered controls and aggressive research and development of long term pharmaceutical solutions, we could eliminate covid (technical meaning of the term). I'm never one to give up, or sit back and take the shit just because everyone tells me it's inevitable. Oh another covid post....time to reply. That is your goal, isnt it, to keep the covid debate active here? I wonder sometimes if you are not secretly on my side of the debate, and just want to give me the opportunity to demolish points you put forward on the side you actually dont support? Our race has been at war with viruses since they evolved. The goal was never to destroy viruses, but for us to continue to reproduce effectively. Our immune system is designed to maximise our chances of doing this. So...it will only do what best furthers this goal, and the problem for you is that we maximise our reproductive chances by not wholly eradicating viruses. And thats the bottom line why your vaccine approach will not work, because the system is designed to allow viruses to come back regularly. If you take steps to prevent them doing this, then you just saw what happens. Covid broke back into the human population from bats. It was in a form not properly optimised to cohabit with us and so killed rather more people than is optimal. Could have been worse, had we avoided it for longer then it would have been. There is a law here which says the longer between outbreaks in a host species, the greater the chance that wholly random variation has created a dangerous form. Whereas all the time it mutates symbiotically with us, then it will stay mild. That seems to be what you are missing. If you take some steps to try to keep it away, it will randonly evolve until it becomes sufficiently virulent to overcome those steps. And then it comes crashing down on the population with extreme results. I had covid in 2019. I had a disease with the correct synptoms including loss of taste and smell which zoe later reported as 95% certain indicator of covid. The source was someone coming from Wuhan. It affected people worse the older they were, killing one of the oldest I know of-in hospital where staff were unable to identify the specific cause. Later in spring 2020 Hastings as a whole did not get covid when the rest of the UK did- most likely explanation because it already had it earlier. But no one noticed, implying the overall severity of a natural covid outbreak was far milder than governments claimed. again, no suprprise that was the case, because official estimates were all based upon the worst possible estimates of its severity, not on its likely severity which was rather less. Autumn 2020 Hastings had covid just like everyone else as the Kent wave went around the country, reinfecting everywhere which had already had the first wave. This showed there was no magic forcefield around Hasting which might have been why it didnt catch it in the spring, or anything less fanciful either. 2021 I had a capsid antibody test, which gave a low but non negative result- most likely concluion I had already had covid though I had no severe rspiratory disease of any sort after that one in late 2019. Early 22 I did have a mild illness with possible covid symptoms which tested positive. Well if that was my first covid, then I dont understand what the fuss is, its a pussycat. If that was a repeat infection then what I experienced is exactly what you would expect. I never had any vaccines, really no point, so that was not why I had covid so mild. Hastings was not the only place to get and recover from covid without major interventions. As new waves came along government moved to national lockdowns, which therefore were imposed late in various places. So even government case statistics demonstrate how it came and went with little different outcome in places where lockdowns were imposed and where they were not. Lockdown was totally futile and failed to prevent the natural evolution of the disease through the population. What it did do was slow its progress which will have resulted in weaker herd immunity (to that strain) and therefore more chance of an early comeback. In particular since the population needs to be viewed as a split herd of two parts, one which is safe and transmits covid, and a second which is at high risk but does not transmit covid, what this really did was weaken immunity in the safe group thereby keeping them transmitting for longer so there was more chance of reaching the unsafe group, and thereby increasing the ultimate number severely ill or dying. Moreover, the high risk period for new mutations to arise is when the population contains a mix of people immune to the old strain plus non immunes keeping old strain circulating. To minimse the chance of mutation you need the outbreak to end fast, wheras lockdown was deliberately intended to make the outbreak last longer....thereby increasing the chances of new strains arising. Back in 2019 and earlier the uk had constant circulating corona viruses very similar to covid which however went unnoticed in general just causing colds. kids were reckoned to get three or four a year, adults increasingly fewer with age. Thats the natural end game scenario for covid, just a cold we basically ignore and carry on as normal. These circulating corona viruses also incidentally provided some population immunity to covid...it could have been much worse without them. |
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Post by Danny on Mar 26, 2023 7:24:15 GMT
Interesting that the worthy inhabitants of South West Norfolk appear to enthusiastically endorse the destruction of the UK economy. Have you ever been to Norfolk (city of Norwich itself excepted)? Stopped in a rural pub there enroute for a needed coffee once. The general air of menace. The appearance that the Express is the only newspaper in existence.. The reliance of the area upon agriculture including upon imported cheap european labour...??.?! |
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Post by alec on Mar 26, 2023 7:31:02 GMT
Danny - my goal is to keep those interested informed. I'm posting in line with guidance from Mark and with respect to other posters. Stop being so rude and childish, and take any responses to the covid thread, where I can laugh at your developing desperation without troubling the rest of the readers of UKPR2. [From someone who has never produced so much as a scrap of evidence, I found your line "opportunity to demolish points you put forward" particularly funny].
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Post by pjw1961 on Mar 26, 2023 8:13:03 GMT
Interesting that the worthy inhabitants of South West Norfolk appear to enthusiastically endorse the destruction of the UK economy. The Guardian do vox pops in Tory voting areas and encounter any number of people who are convinced that regardless of what the Tories do, Labour would always be worse. The floor UK Tory vote is probably about 30% (see 1997), so obviously higher in England and much higher in places like SW Norfolk. |
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Post by pjw1961 on Mar 26, 2023 8:17:12 GMT
Interesting that the worthy inhabitants of South West Norfolk appear to enthusiastically endorse the destruction of the UK economy. It was a Labour-held seat until 1964! Labour's relative strength in rural Norfolk in the first half of the 20th century was based on agricultural trade unionism among farm workers. When they were replaced by mechanisation it was game over and they became 'normal' Tory voting rural areas - albeit in Norfolk North the Lib Dems were able to capture some of the old anti-Tory feeling for a while. |
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Post by Mr Poppy on Mar 26, 2023 8:52:06 GMT
Not my polity of course but SNP new leader announced tomorrow and bookies have Yousaf as odds-on favourite but chance it could be Forbes. From a point of view of Indy (the only policy that is a UK wide issue given it would suck political bandwidth out of Westminster), then Yousaf and Forbes seem to be fairly similar and have the chance to 'reset' the ' GE'24 = defacto IndyRef2' view (even if only because that was a daft thing for Sturgeon to have said after loosing the Supreme Court case)
SNP leadership contest: What policies have Kate Forbes, Humza Yousaf and Ash Regan set out?www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-leadership-contest-what-policies-have-kate-forbes-humza-yousaf-and-ash-regan-set-out-4049806So TBC but Alister Jack is offering an 'olive branch' (albeit by 'collaboration' the Hard Core SNATs will consider that he means 'submission')
Alister Jack urges Scotland’s next FM to choose collaboration, not confrontationwww.standard.co.uk/news/politics/alister-jack-nicola-sturgeon-scotland-secretary-snp-b1069978.htmlPS The Scots are very welcome to sing 'God Save the King' at sporting fixtures if they want to. 'Flower of Scotland' is just a song but only a pedant would demand that is announced as 'just a song' or insist on the inclusion of the word 'unofficial'. Ireland get to sing two songs before their games so Scots can sing two songs when they play England if they want to. Free country. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2023 9:08:42 GMT
Extracts from a Mathew Goodwin article about his new book :-Values, Voice and Virtue: The New British Politics.
"Britain is on the cusp of a “progressive” revolution that will transform politics and society."
" This progressive tide, steadily building for a decade, is poised to usher in a different political and cultural zeitgeist."
"It is being propelled by three specific groups."
"The first is the rising number of middle-class professional graduates, the big winners of John Major’s and Tony Blair’s expansion of the universities.Shaped by their degrees and far more liberal values, Britain’s graduate class are increasingly trending leftwards, reflecting the rise of a new “education divide” in the West, where the graduate minority is steadily drifting away from the non-graduate majority.Were only degree-holders able to vote in 2017, Jeremy Corbyn would have been elected prime minister. This is why parties on the liberal left, not just Labour but also the Liberal Democrats and the Greens, dominate almost all the big cities and university towns, and are invading the southern, graduate-heavy commuter belt where professionals are spilling from the capital."
"The second is Britain’s young Millennials and even younger Zoomers, born after 1996, who may only remember Conservative governments. They too are flooding into the electorate. Before the rise of Blair there was no real difference in the political loyalties of young and old. But since then, the gulf between them has become enormous. At the last election, nearly eight in ten of the youngest voters backed the liberal left. Now not even one in five say they plan to vote Tory next year."
"The final group is the rapidly rising number of voters from minority backgrounds, more than three-quarters of whom vote for the liberal left, with the vast majority voting Labour. At the last election, the Tories had a 20-point lead over Labour among white Britons, but among black and ethnic minority voters Labour had more than a 40-point lead. Of the 50 seats with the largest number of Muslims, the Tories won three."
But Goodwin doesn't ask where Tory votes are coming from-he asks :-
"But will the progressive tide automatically translate into large Labour majorities? Not necessarily. While these groups will increasingly dominate Britain’s institutions, using their immense cultural and political power to reshape Westminster, the media and cultural and educational institutions, the progressive tide will also inject new problems into politics."
"One is geography. All the groups propelling it forward live in the same parts of the country, in the big cities and university towns."
"This is underlined by a second problem: how the progressive tide is already driving a wedge between the liberal graduates who dominate the institutions and the much larger number of voters who have to live with the consequences of their decisions.Over the past decade, in response to Brexit and Trump, the graduate class have intensified their liberalism, embracing an even more radical “woke” progressivism, a belief system which I estimate is held by 15 per cent of the country.
This “Great Awokening” among white liberal graduates, visible in America and Britain, is reflected in their increasingly passionate support for both legal and illegal immigration, their tendency to see Britain’s history as overwhelmingly negative, and their firm belief that western nations are “institutionally racist”. These beliefs are understandable, but they are not shared by anywhere close to a majority of voters, and are often repelling them, setting the stage for a new populist backlash, like we see in France, Italy and Sweden."
He concludes with a rather unsatisfactory :"So while the looming progressive tide may be celebrated by the left, in reality it will be more complex than many think, possibly pushing politics into an even more turbulent future."
What does he mean by "Turbulent" ??. - France writ large ?
If i understood him he means the "opposition" to his liberal tide is more, not less Trumpism.
So where does that leave Sunak's brand of Conservatism ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2023 9:09:44 GMT
Have you ever been to Norfolk (city of Norwich itself excepted)? Stopped in a rural pub there enroute for a needed coffee once. The general air of menace. The appearance that the Express is the only newspaper in existence.. A classic of the genre. And the type . |
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Post by alec on Mar 26, 2023 9:13:25 GMT
steve - interesting post on the influence of international law on businesses. This is an area where politicians often have a blind spot, I think. I saw this over Brexit, where leavers were confident we could just ignore certain things we didn't like, but this discounted the influence of insurers on business behaviour. There may well be similar influences here. Apologies for extending into covid, but there are also similar extra-legislative pressures in this area, where general provisions under H&S legislation and human rights claims will, I suspect, in time exert an influence on how companies and organisations behave in terms of protection of individuals from infection. Again, insurers are likely to play a role here. My own business insurance currently has a series of clauses specific to coronavirus. Some of these are exclusions (eg not covered if new lockdowns etc) but others remove my liability cover if I "knowingly infect or allow to be infected" others. That's quite a broad sweep of exclusions, depending how it is interpreted, but I take it seriously, as I can't afford to lose my insurance cover. So everything we do is bombproof from a covid point of view. Life is always complex, and politicians tend to like to think that they can pass a law and make something happen, but other interests can readily intervene.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2023 9:17:20 GMT
The Boys in Blue just dont give up do they ?
"Children as young as eight are being stopped and strip-searched by police according to a report which warns that officers are abusing their powers.
A total of 2,847 youths have been targeted in England and Wales in the past four years and nearly a quarter were aged between 10 and 15. Black children are disproportionately more likely to be subjected to strip searches by police officers, with black boys accounting for more than a third — 37 per cent — of the cases.
According to the analysis from Dame Rachel de Souza, the children’s commissioner.
Speaking before the publication of her report tomorrow, De Souza said her “shocking” findings had “kept her awake at night”. She called on police chiefs to “get their act together” after previously demanding that officers should only strip-search children in “life or death” situations."
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"Simon Chesterman, chief constable of the Civil Nuclear Constabulary (CNC), said he had deployed software to identify offensive and discriminatory remarks in emails and other correspondence in an effort to root out rogue officers.
It coincides with the discovery of a WhatsApp group in which serving and former CNC officers exchanged “abhorrent and sickening” messages, Chesterman said. The messages are believed to include racist, misogynist and homophobic language, as well as pornographic images. The existence of the group came to light last year only after a CNC officer was arrested on suspicion of rape and assault, and his phone was seized by investigators.The nuclear constabulary, one of three forces in the UK whose officers routinely carry guns, previously employed Wayne Couzens,
“It beggars belief that anybody could think like that,” said Chesterman, 58, who is also the National Police Chiefs’ Council lead on armed policing. “We’re keen to sort this out and make sure that we do something about it.” "
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Post by Mr Poppy on Mar 26, 2023 9:34:04 GMT
Have you ever been to Norfolk (city of Norwich itself excepted)? Stopped in a rural pub there enroute for a needed coffee once. The general air of menace. The appearance that the Express is the only newspaper in existence.. A classic of the genre. And the type . Pretty sure they sell the Daily Wail and Torygraph in Norfolk as well. However, the Guardian is considered the work of the devil and anyone caught reading that will be burned at the stake. (I hear you can get the Observer in Burnham Market (aka Chelsea-next-the-Sea) on a Sunday but whisper it quietly)  PS It would help if people used the or  to make it clear when they are joking. Although the air of self entitled arrogance that some DFLs (Down* From London) types give off when they go into a rural Norfolk pub on a sunny weekend and ask for a flat white (milky coffee) and copy of the Guardian enroute to their 2nd home or airbnb probably is treated with an 'air of menace' - similar to what the DFLs also receive in Kent, Cornwall or parts of Wales. Having priced out the locals but doing nothing to help the local community with their occasional visits then hardly a surprise the 'liberal elite' are not popular in such areas. * That's one of the more polite names for that type. I'm not that sure why they say 'down' from London in East Anglia as well though? Makes sense in SE and SW coastal areas. |
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Post by Mr Poppy on Mar 26, 2023 9:43:30 GMT
Minor correction to my 'not my polity' post about next Scottish FM. On the 'trans' issue then I'm fairly sure* what Yousaf hopes to achieve but Greens seem to have it clear they are the tail wagging in dog in Scotland.
Greens clear that progressive values must be ‘necessity’ for next first ministerwww.standard.co.uk/news/politics/kate-forbes-greens-snp-nicola-sturgeon-scottish-b1069923.htmlIMO the trans issue should be Scotland's choice but Rishi's view is not going to change. Starmer is back in London so he might be 'hipster marxist'/'woke' again today, having flip flopped once again, but into a GE he'll need to appeal to Red Wall voters given the 'woke' constituencies are safe LAB (or LDEM in a few cases) in England and Cardiff. Anyway, if Yousaf wants to go through to courts in the same way Sturgeon did for clarification on the 'Indy' issue then that is his choice of course. It will create a legal bill for whole of UK but given Rishi has already stated his approach then, thankfully, it won't suck up any political bandwidth as Rishi has a lot of important issues that most people do actually care about to get on with. * Not sure what eventual outcome he wants to achieve (other than Supreme Court eventually saying same thing as they did for Indy) but as per Indy then having a 'cause' gives SNATs a purpose and deflects attention from SNP/Scot.Gov 'day job' performance on areas that they do have devolved responsibilities for. |
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to make it clear when they are joking. Although the air of self entitled arrogance that some DFLs (Down* From London) types give off when they go into a rural Norfolk pub on a sunny weekend and ask for a flat white (milky coffee) and copy of the Guardian enroute to their 2nd home or airbnb probably is treated with an 'air of menace' - similar to what the DFLs also receive in Kent, Cornwall or parts of Wales. Having priced out the locals but doing nothing to help the local community with their occasional visits then hardly a surprise the 'liberal elite' are not popular in such areas.