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Post by steve on Aug 23, 2022 7:32:39 GMT
Danny with his battle of Hastings has much in common with brexitanians and their benefits.
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Post by Danny on Aug 23, 2022 7:33:40 GMT
@danny 'There is a very clear case that covid started in the uk in 2019, probably in several places one of which was Hastings where I happen to live so caught the illness then and know something of local events' You should of told us before, that's really important information... I had mentioned it but some dont seem able to take it into account when posting further. Just as the only real solution to the problems caused by brexit is to rejoin the EU, so the way to prevent ongoing harm from the covid debacle is to accept how it was wrongly managed. Others disagree with me in the way it was mismanaged, yet they too believe the right thing to do now is repeatedly restate what they believe was handled wrongly. So we agree on that at least. I am however pleased that the objections to the case for covid in the uk having started in 2019 have now mostly degenerated to personal attacks. That usually means the case is unassailable by facts.
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Post by bardin1 on Aug 23, 2022 7:34:11 GMT
steve - leaving energy saving strategy to 'personal responsibility', as they have done with covid, just exposes the mind numbing extremist ideology we are labouring under. They simply cannot accept there is a role for concerted government action, whatever the nature and scale of the issue. Not entirely true They can get together for a party, or a bit of Union flag waving
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Post by steve on Aug 23, 2022 7:39:05 GMT
crossbat11 We were most impressed with our son's accomplishment at gcse. He managed to get as far as we could ascertain the absolute minimum required to get the equivalent of an old O level c grade in 10 different subjects, none of this A star nonsense , conservation of energy at its finest. He's doing his IT degree now so it all worked out đź‘Ś
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Post by mandolinist on Aug 23, 2022 7:39:33 GMT
steve - leaving energy saving strategy to 'personal responsibility', as they have done with covid, just exposes the mind numbing extremist ideology we are labouring under. They simply cannot accept there is a role for concerted government action, whatever the nature and scale of the issue. Not entirely true They can get together for a party, or a bit of Union flag waving I would love to see Truss et al waving flags with RMT or Unite on them. . .oh you mean The Union.
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Post by steve on Aug 23, 2022 7:40:26 GMT
bardin1 I suppose flag shagging could be a way to keep warm.
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Post by mandolinist on Aug 23, 2022 7:42:15 GMT
crossbat11 We were most impressed with our son's accomplishment at gcse. He managed to get as far as we could ascertain the absolute minimum required to get the equivalent of an old O level c grade in 10 different subjects, none of this A star nonsense , conservation of energy at its finest. He's doing his IT degree now so it all worked out đź‘Ś I remember telling my offspring that you only need enough to get to the next level, no one is ever asked what grade they got in gcse english lit when they leave University with a Phd in molecular biology.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 7:53:40 GMT
nickp and steve - perhaps I am mistaken, but I believe it is important for everyone to refuse to accept fake news and those that deliberately peddle it. @danny and people like him are deliberately spreading falsehoods, and I don't think we should sit back and accept this without challenge. Nobody is reading any of it
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Post by steve on Aug 23, 2022 8:28:23 GMT
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Post by leftieliberal on Aug 23, 2022 9:26:55 GMT
There were 3 Representation of the People Acts passed in 1832, as the 3 polities in the UK Union - England & Wales, Ireland and Scotland - all had different franchises and constituency arrangements from each other, both before and after the reforms. You could also have made the point that (quoting Wikipedia) "The separate Scottish Reform Act 1832 was revolutionary, enlarging the electorate by a factor of 13 from 5,000 to 65,000." For England and Wales "The Act also increased the electorate from about 400,000 to 650,000, making about one in five adult males eligible to vote." Before 1832 Scotland's franchise was extremely limited (See "A very short Introduction to Scotland" p. 26 available online through Google books books.google.co.uk/books?id=RqAUDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA26&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false ) When you consider that Edinburgh's MP immediately prior to the 1832 Scottish Reform Act was elected by just 33 men, it was clear that it was one of of the rottenest of Boroughs. After 1832, 13% of the Scottish adult male population was enfranchised, so still worse than England & Wales, but at least on the right path.
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Post by leftieliberal on Aug 23, 2022 9:39:02 GMT
Carfrew: "it’s a 3-stage rocket, I think, maybe can fit stages in separate containers, or even side-by-side in one container?"Yup. I expect that's it. Nice to get a reasoned response, btw. I was bracing for a "dreary nitpicking, get a life" type reaction. No probs. It all seems to be progressing apace in various different ways - now Norfolk are looking at an offshore launch site: www.edp24.co.uk/news/business/gravitilab-space-port-plans-9133006Where you prefer to launch a satellite from depends on the orbit you want it to go into. So, for example, a satellite in a geostationary orbit has to be in an orbit with zero inclination to the equator, which is why French Guiana is preferred. For a satellite in a polar orbit, it makes no difference where you launch it from. * *Apart from the acceleration due to gravity at the surface of the Earth being a fraction lower at the Equator than at the Poles.
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Post by oldnat on Aug 23, 2022 9:57:08 GMT
There were 3 Representation of the People Acts passed in 1832, as the 3 polities in the UK Union - England & Wales, Ireland and Scotland - all had different franchises and constituency arrangements from each other, both before and after the reforms. You could also have made the point that (quoting Wikipedia) "The separate Scottish Reform Act 1832 was revolutionary, enlarging the electorate by a factor of 13 from 5,000 to 65,000." For England and Wales "The Act also increased the electorate from about 400,000 to 650,000, making about one in five adult males eligible to vote." Before 1832 Scotland's franchise was extremely limited. When you consider that Edinburgh's MP immediately prior to the 1832 Scottish Reform Act was elected by just 33 men, it was clear that it was one of of the rottenest of Boroughs. After 1832, 13% of the Scottish adult male population was enfranchised, so still worse than England & Wales, but at least on the right path. Yep. I used to teach this stuff - as I had only ever been taught about the E&W Act. Good that others now know about it. The franchise in the Scottish burghs was limited to the burgh council - who were "elected" by the previous council! The situation in Ireland is also interesting, with a similar pattern in a number of their boroughs.
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Post by isa on Aug 23, 2022 10:02:10 GMT
That sounds literally fascinating to me. I obviously need to get out more! I blame taking British Constitution as an additional O - Level in the Lower Sixth for sparking off my interest in matters psephological. Haven't been able to kick it since! Let me bring joy to your heart - and maybe to that of a few others. The books cost a fortune these days but you can get the full results of every GE since 1918 (including the 1918 Irish results which I've not found elsewhere) in a spreadsheet free of charge here: commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7529/commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8647/#fullreportMy only complaint is that each election doesn't have a consistent layout of columns so a little work is needed if you want to compile the results for a particular constituency. My books (FWS Craig's series which was continued by Rallings and Thrasher) also have candidates' names and the like. Thanks for that, pjw1961. Great stuff! Who knew such bounty was available so easily, comprehensively and gratis! Will have a good pore later.
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Post by isa on Aug 23, 2022 10:22:17 GMT
isa Just noticed in your post to pjw1961 that you sat a British Constitution A/O Level in the lower sixth at school. I did too and you're one of very few people I know, beyond my small number of fellow students at the time, who did too! I was doing a reverse Truss at the time and taking a different political course to my parents, but their Tory political activism had already aroused a strong interest in politics. That and a truly inspirational teacher who taught me the British Constitution syllabus, hooked me for life. Ironically, in the light of my moniker/nickname on this forum, his name was Mr Batty. Most of my teachers at the Catholic public school I attended were either priests and monks, but Mr Batty, one of the small number of lay teachers on the staff, was a one off. Left wing politically and the founder of our cherished Sunday football club; a refuge for lovers of the round ball winter game in a school that only played rugby union and hockey. He purloined a pitch for us in the far corner of the vast sports fields and even managed to arrange some fixtures too. Sporting heresy tolerated with reluctance by the school. I have much to thank Mr Batty for. We used to chat about politics and sport endlessly and I greatly looked forward to his lessons on British Constitution. My only A grade too in a set of fairly middling O level results that disappointed both my teachers and parents! BC was certainly a fairly niche subject, crossbat11! I think six out of our year total of c45 took it. History was my best subject, so I thought BC might complement it. Thankfully, it did. A good teacher can indeed be truly inspiring. My history master certainly was, although his politics were different to my own. However, his daughter was equally inspiring to me, and the conflict between academia and my hormones just at A - Level time led to just two middling passes and a Sliding Doors moment where University lost out to getting a job. Such is life!
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Post by oldnat on Aug 23, 2022 10:28:14 GMT
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Post by leftieliberal on Aug 23, 2022 10:53:50 GMT
isa Just noticed in your post to pjw1961 that you sat a British Constitution A/O Level in the lower sixth at school. I did too and you're one of very few people I know, beyond my small number of fellow students at the time, who did too! BC was certainly a fairly niche subject, crossbat11 ! I think six out of our year total of c45 took it. History was my best subject, so I thought BC might complement it. Thankfully, it did. At my grammar school in the 6th form, although we didn't have anyone sitting British Constitution 'O' level, we did have classes in Civics, in which the children had to research a topic relating to government and present to to the class for discussion. Co-incidentally, I was given the Liberal Party, and discovered that it was then in favour of unilateral nuclear disarmament at a time when both major parties were pro-nuclear weapons.
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Aug 23, 2022 11:04:46 GMT
Where you prefer to launch a satellite from depends on the orbit you want it to go into. So, for example, a satellite in a geostationary orbit has to be in an orbit with zero inclination to the equator, which is why French Guiana is preferred. For a satellite in a polar orbit, it makes no difference where you launch it from. * *Apart from the acceleration due to gravity at the surface of the Earth being a fraction lower at the Equator than at the Poles. Well, there are other considerations, like changing inclinations, and making sure you don’t fly over populated areas. (And the practicalities of having a launch facility near some companies that need the facilities, which is why the interest in Norfolk). SpaceX recently demonstrated launching into a polar orbit from Cape Canaveral for the first time in fifty years, but Vandenburg is still preferred, for other reasons. But yes, we have talked about the utility of equatorial launches on the board before.
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Post by alurqa on Aug 23, 2022 11:06:47 GMT
crossbat11 We were most impressed with our son's accomplishment at gcse. He managed to get as far as we could ascertain the absolute minimum required to get the equivalent of an old O level c grade in 10 different subjects, none of this A star nonsense , conservation of energy at its finest. He's doing his IT degree now so it all worked out đź‘Ś Isn't this the equivalence equation? :-)
2020A* = 1970C
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Post by bardin1 on Aug 23, 2022 11:09:02 GMT
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Aug 23, 2022 11:09:31 GMT
isa Just noticed in your post to pjw1961 that you sat a British Constitution A/O Level in the lower sixth at school. I did too and you're one of very few people I know, beyond my small number of fellow students at the time, who did too! Didn’t even know that qualification was a thing.
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Aug 23, 2022 11:16:33 GMT
I think we may be starting to climb the Hype Curve. Now SpaceX and RocketLab have created reliable, repeatable launch services it seems every man and his dog wants to play! I don't know how many of these new offerings will come to fruition, but I think it's too early in the small satellite launch market to offer enough demand for all these players, so some will definitely go to the wall, often, I suspect, before they've even become operational. After all, unless they can seriously undercut the charges of SpaceX and RocketLab, why would you use them? I don't know what their prices are, by the way, but if you are lauching a 10,000 kg rocket and you just need a bit more methane to send 10,010 kg, how much is that going to add to the flight? It will be interesting to see how the market pans out, but I think much of this is more hype than reality. well admittedly I’m not very up to speed on the business case, but my understanding is that there is too much demand for launch capability for the likes of SpaceX and Rocket Lab to cater for in the near future, and on top of that we are specialising more in launching small satellites, which SpaceX tend to launch as a ride-share, piggy-backing on the launch of something bigger, which can result in waiting a while for a launch slot. Apparently there are also some advantages to having a launchpad nearby for some space firms. (I think we might be doing some suborbital launches too that might be even cheaper but still useful for research purposes?) Additionally, it does seem that reusability is a road we might be going down (maybe only the engines at first, though the 747s used for horizontal launches are reusable too of course) and hence might eventually be able to compete on that score. Another thing we seem to be aiming at is low-carbon launches, and reducing other environmental impacts “ A study by the U’s’s University of Exeter showed that a single launch of Orbex Prime will produce 96% lower carbon emissions than comparable space launch systems using fossil fuels.
Prime is also reusable and has been engineered to leave zero debris on Earth and in orbit. It will be used commercially to launch groups of small microsatellites or slightly larger individual satellites.” spaceflightnow.com/2022/05/30/uk-launched-rocket-promises-to-transform-microsatellite-launch-business/Josef Aschbacher, European Space Agency (ESA) director general, said: “I am deeply impressed with the speed at which the Orbex Prime rocket has been developed as the first full orbital micro-launcher in Europe. But I am equally impressed by the low-carbon footprint technology applied.”
Orbex Prime plans to launch from Space Hub Sutherland… It is also the first and only spaceport worldwide that has committed to being carbon-neutral, both in its construction and operation.“ From the outside, it might look like an ordinary rocket but on the inside Prime is unlike anything else. To deliver the performance and environmental sustainability we wanted from a 21st century rocket, we had to innovate in a wide number of areas — low-carbon fuels, fully 3D-printed rocket engines, very lightweight fuel tanks and novel, low-mass reusability technology.”
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Post by graham on Aug 23, 2022 11:22:55 GMT
crossbat11 We were most impressed with our son's accomplishment at gcse. He managed to get as far as we could ascertain the absolute minimum required to get the equivalent of an old O level c grade in 10 different subjects, none of this A star nonsense , conservation of energy at its finest. He's doing his IT degree now so it all worked out đź‘Ś Isn't this the equivalence equation? :-)
2020A* = 1970C Also 2020 Ist class Honours = 1970 good Lower Second Class Honours in many cases.
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Post by domjg on Aug 23, 2022 11:32:10 GMT
I've learnt something today. Interesting that there used to be a subject called 'British constitution'. Firstly I thought we didn't really have one and from today's perspective it seems odd to have such a perculiarly narrowly focussed subject. A relic I guess from an age when the UK was more or less the only country that most people born here would spend their time in so it's particular political arrangements would have seemed to have greater relative importance.
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Post by mercian on Aug 23, 2022 11:33:17 GMT
steve - leaving energy saving strategy to 'personal responsibility', as they have done with covid, just exposes the mind numbing extremist ideology we are labouring under. They simply cannot accept there is a role for concerted government action, whatever the nature and scale of the issue. Hardly. I agree that there is an unnecessary hiatus at the moment because of the ridiculously prolonged leadership campaign, but we had the furlough scheme and other help for businesses, 'eat out to help out', and now ÂŁ400+ handouts to households. I can't remember any similar largesse in the past, though as usual I am open to correction if my memory is faulty.
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Post by mercian on Aug 23, 2022 11:40:43 GMT
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Post by mercian on Aug 23, 2022 11:45:46 GMT
I've learnt something today. Interesting that there used to be a subject called 'British constitution'. Firstly I thought we didn't really have one and from today's perspective it seems odd to have such a perculiarly narrowly focussed subject. A relic I guess from an age when the UK was more or less the only country that most people born here would spend their time in so it's particular political arrangements would have seemed to have greater relative importance. I think you'd find that that's still true for most people, unless you're including holidays abroad. Eve then, it's surely more important to know the constitution of the country you live in rather than one where you go on holiday.
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Post by bardin1 on Aug 23, 2022 11:53:29 GMT
Damn - I thought nobody on here would get it!
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Post by alec on Aug 23, 2022 11:54:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 12:02:15 GMT
I've learnt something today. Interesting that there used to be a subject called 'British constitution'. Firstly I thought we didn't really have one and from today's perspective it seems odd to have such a perculiarly narrowly focussed subject. A relic I guess from an age when the UK was more or less the only country that most people born here would spend their time in so it's particular political arrangements would have seemed to have greater relative importance. I think you'd find that that's still true for most people, unless you're including holidays abroad. Eve then, it's surely more important to know the constitution of the country you live in rather than one where you go on holiday. I agree . But there is a minority who so dislike the idea of nationhood and all its expressions and institutions that study of it would be anathema to them. There is an extreme variant of this view -as is evident from the post you are responding to- which applies this antipathy solely to the UK , an entity whose very existence is an object of hatred. Probably enhanced by the unfortunate individual being resident in it.
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Post by alurqa on Aug 23, 2022 12:25:28 GMT
Isn't this the equivalence equation? :-)
2020A* = 1970C Also 2020 Ist class Honours = 1970 good Lower Second Class Honours in many cases. Haha, or a Desmond, as they were called when I got my tutu in 1981. :-)
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