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Post by bardin1 on Aug 21, 2022 8:10:43 GMT
Libraries ( I know because I used to be a librarian) are already 'warm banks' for the elderly and for students. Those public libraries which still have seating space (most reference libraries went in the previous rounds of cuts) seats are usually full when exam time for students comes along prior to Christmas. Fights between students and grannies and the homeless for the seats, ticketing systems to allow you in for a bit of warmth.
Dickens would have made a novel out of this - Low Expectations, or Bleak Britain perhaps...
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Post by mandolinist on Aug 21, 2022 8:32:33 GMT
Libraries ( I know because I used to be a librarian) are already 'warm banks' for the elderly and for students. Those public libraries which still have seating space (most reference libraries went in the previous rounds of cuts) seats are usually full when exam time for students comes along prior to Christmas. Fights between students and grannies and the homeless for the seats, ticketing systems to allow you in for a bit of warmth. Dickens would have made a novel out of this - Low Expectations, or Bleak Britain perhaps... Also, only open for three hours on the last Tuesday of the month. No new stock bought for the past ten years, and no real librarians on the staff. . .
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Post by crossbat11 on Aug 21, 2022 8:38:41 GMT
Delusional stuff presumably emerging from the regime. Libraries and museums turned into " warm banks" with no explanation how they are expected to pay the uncapped increase in their energy bills. Presumably that voter who was quoted in the Hartlepool by-election as saying what a brilliant job the Tories had done because there were so many more food banks open in the town than there used to be under Labour will be delighted at this new sign of government success. Isn't all this part of the devolution of blame; Johnson's most effective political conjuring trick? Not only did he campaign against his Tory predecessors in government, himself and his colleagues in effect, he convinced voters that they should punish their sitting Labour MPs and councils for the iniquities of the previous ten years. Falling behind wasn't your national government's fault, it was instead the fault of that Labour MP you've been returning for years. See how he's closed your library, shut down the high street and got rid of all the decent jobs. Him/her and that bloody useless council we've starved of cash. This is part of the Great Deception of the last twelve years. So successful that many voters became convinced that the change they wanted was more Tory MPs in Parliament not less. Maybe, hopefully, Hartlepool was the last example of this strange and contradictory behaviour and the penny might finally have dropped. Don't reward your tormentors, punish them instead.
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Post by steve on Aug 21, 2022 8:43:59 GMT
Welcome to Tory brexitania
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Post by hireton on Aug 21, 2022 8:46:58 GMT
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Post by hireton on Aug 21, 2022 9:17:30 GMT
There appears to be some UK wide polling involving Panelbase and Lucid Talk in the Sunday Times on the union. I can only find some secondary reports so far:
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Post by hireton on Aug 21, 2022 9:19:11 GMT
Scottish Westminster VI from the Panrlbase poll:
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Post by steve on Aug 21, 2022 9:44:00 GMT
hireton Fptp strikes again with the only party having representation commensurate with their vote share unusually for them being the Lib dems.
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Post by isa on Aug 21, 2022 9:53:55 GMT
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Post by EmCat on Aug 21, 2022 9:54:22 GMT
There appears to be some UK wide polling involving Panelbase and Lucid Talk in the Sunday Times on the union. I can only find some secondary reports so far: That is... weird. I can see it now: "Which is the better UK company - Unilever or Proctor & Gamble?" 51% say Unilever "Which is the better company, bearing in mind that Unilever make Marmite?" 52% now say P&G
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Post by JohnC on Aug 21, 2022 10:02:05 GMT
Libraries ( I know because I used to be a librarian) are already 'warm banks' for the elderly and for students. Those public libraries which still have seating space (most reference libraries went in the previous rounds of cuts) seats are usually full when exam time for students comes along prior to Christmas. Fights between students and grannies and the homeless for the seats, ticketing systems to allow you in for a bit of warmth. Dickens would have made a novel out of this - Low Expectations, or Bleak Britain perhaps... Also, only open for three hours on the last Tuesday of the month. No new stock bought for the past ten years, and no real librarians on the staff. . . We are fortunate in that our local public library is open 9-7 4 days a week, 9-5 2 days and even 10-4 on Sundays. A benefit of having a Labour council. Volunteers are trained to assist the permanent staff and a couple of the smaller libraries which would otherwise have closed are run by volunteers. We even have a new public library opened recently which is run by a local College.
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Post by crossbat11 on Aug 21, 2022 10:03:31 GMT
You are correct. I will pay out your winnings when we arrange a meet up in Somerset somewhere. That could be either at Taunton for the cricket if and when Worcester get promoted or maybe, the way Villa are playing, Yeovil Town FC in a few years time. I will of course include an inflationary bonus. At current rates that might be £80 by the time any of the above events transpire. If they don't, I get away with it and will invest the fiver accordingly! As for old Jo, was it the photo or the famous quote that gave it away?
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Post by isa on Aug 21, 2022 10:26:06 GMT
You are correct. I will pay out your winnings when we arrange a meet up in Somerset somewhere. That could be either at Taunton for the cricket if and when Worcester get promoted or maybe, the way Villa are playing, Yeovil Town FC in a few years time. I will of course include an inflationary bonus. At current rates that might be £80 by the time any of the above events transpire. If they don't, I get away with it and will invest the fiver accordingly! As for old Jo, was it the photo or the famous quote that gave it away? Well, cricket-wise, that Somerset v. Worcestershire fixture might be on the cards next season the way Somerset are playing at the moment! The YTFC v. Villa match seems rather more of a stretch though. Either way your money seems safe for the foreseeable! It was the photo. When I first became aware of politics c1970, Jo was quite a prominent figure media-wise, and his fizzog obviously ingrained itself into my consciousness, just waiting to be resurrected 50+ years later! It is a cracking little speech, though.
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Post by eotw on Aug 21, 2022 10:34:22 GMT
For Steve Attachments:
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Post by mandolinist on Aug 21, 2022 10:39:34 GMT
There appears to be some UK wide polling involving Panelbase and Lucid Talk in the Sunday Times on the union. I can only find some secondary reports so far: That is... weird. I can see it now: "Which is the better UK company - Unilever or Proctor & Gamble?" 51% say Unilever "Which is the better company, bearing in mind that Unilever make Marmite?" 52% now say P&G Once more, I am having to wipe my morning coffee off the computer. Thanks.
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Post by steve on Aug 21, 2022 10:46:42 GMT
All the fun of a staycation.
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Post by steve on Aug 21, 2022 11:01:25 GMT
www.theguardian.com/society/2022/aug/21/gps-could-prescribe-money-off-energy-bills-under-treasury-planApart from the fact it's obviously a ludicrous idea an administrative nightmare and is massively outside of GP area of expertise. It's also ineffective many of the elderly at greatest physical risk of hypothermia don't actually arrange their own energy supplies many sheltered housing facilities both private and council incorporate heating and lighting and water supplies or at least some of these into their monthly charge as do nursing and residential homes, not only aren't these individually changeable but they are uncapped. Last week a care home chain in the West country reported the following. " Goldsworthy ( the ceo)was forced to sign a new energy contract worth £7.7m because prices were rising by £100,000 a day. From October it will be paying more than five times what it used to pay for gas and electricity, which was about £1.5m a year. “We’re in an absolutely impossible situation. I’ve had one of the worst weeks ever and I’ve been through Covid so I know what hard times are like,” she says, shaking her head gently. “We are being abandoned again.” Delusional fuckwittery from the regime isn't limited to making doctors be means assessors it extends to twaddle about gifting. Suggesting those who are best off donate their £400 reductions to the poor and needy, slight problem with this. A : The vast majority won't. B: There are no charities set up to distribute money in this way anyway. It's verging on the insane now.
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Post by steve on Aug 21, 2022 11:28:45 GMT
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Post by EmCat on Aug 21, 2022 11:49:19 GMT
I recall, back in the late 80s a TV programme that was looking back at some political decisions made in the 70s and early 80s, and what their impact had ended up being. I forget the particular proposal, but the analysis showed that one much trumpeted suggestion had increased that party's polling by around 7-8%, as it clearly showed "Something is being done to address that issue" in the minds of the public. However, it was also pointed out that that suggestion actually benefited such a small number of individuals as to be nearly valueless. However, it had achieved its aim of boosting polling scores, rather than the aim the public would have preferred, which was a positive benefit to the country as a whole. In other words, this "GPs can do it" is specifically designed to appeal to the "I'm glad something is being done to help those less fortunate than me" brigade. Even though I will be, as you say, any or all of: useless; ineffective; costly
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Post by laszlo4new on Aug 21, 2022 12:38:53 GMT
Kwasi Kwarteng to rein in green profits as energy price cap set to soar to £6,000 Tony Diver , Lauren Almeida - Yesterday 22:30 Kwasi Kwarteng is planning to clamp down on wind and solar energy firms as a new forecast predicted the energy price cap will hit £6,000 in April. New analysis from the energy consultancy Auxilione said the energy price cap will hit £6,000 in April, after rising to £3,576 in October, and £4,799 in January. Auxilione said the energy prices would not fall until next July, when the cap would drop by a tenth to £5,486. The increase will mean bills will still be almost triple their current level this time next year, as inflation squeezes household budgets by up to 13 per cent. A poll by Opinium on Saturday found that 40 per cent of the public would not be able to afford their bills at all or have to cut back on essential spending if the energy price cap rises to £3,500 in October, while a quarter say they already cannot afford their bills. The Telegraph can reveal Mr Kwarteng, the Business Secretary, is also preparing to intervene in the energy market in an attempt to stabilise the “crazy” profits of renewables firms. Around a third of wind and solar producers are on inflexible legacy contracts, which have earned them billions from the high price of electricity during the energy crisis. Mr Kwarteng is planning to offer the firms a favourable fixed-term rate at which to sell energy to suppliers for 15 years if they agree to stop selling cheap renewables at high wholesale prices. Ministers are under pressure from Tory MPs who argue that renewables firms have made enormous profits from the price of electricity because they can produce it at a cheaper rate. Danny Kruger, who is among those lobbying Mr Kwarteng to end the legacy Renewable Obligation (RO) contracts, said they were “the biggest avoidable driver of inflation we have” and called on ministers to “move as fast as possible to change the rules”. The Telegraph understands firms on the old contracts, which were signed between 2002 and 2013, who have made billions from the energy crisis will instead be offered deals that pay a fixed rate for power. If the companies refuse to switch, some will remain on the variable-rate contracts until 2037, but government sources said such a deal would “help with financial planning and investment decisions” in the long run, while bringing prices down. Even consumers with 100 per cent renewable energy tariffs have seen prices rise. This is because the price of renewable energy is effectively tied to the price of gas and other fossil fuels. If there is more demand than supply, the price of all energy goes up, regardless of the source. It is a very important comment on the renewables. It is one of the surprises how competitive the UK is in this industry - it is not predicted by any frameworks, and many specialised consultancies in the industry ignore the point of competitiveness. I'm quite sure that those measures (in combination) would eliminate the competitiveness of the renewable industry sector in the UK. Sorry, I have had a couple of rather busy days, so I don't have the time to write it up, but here's a presentation slide on the unexpected competitiveness of the UK wave energy sector (and it is valid for other renewables too). I hope the logic could be followed.
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Post by mercian on Aug 21, 2022 12:41:47 GMT
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Post by mandolinist on Aug 21, 2022 12:49:26 GMT
An 8 for me. Funny how quickly you forget this stuff isn't it?
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Post by mercian on Aug 21, 2022 12:51:37 GMT
mandolinistThere came a point where I stopped paying any attention as the rules seemed to change nearly every day, and Scotland and Wales were slightly different every time just to show they had some power. It got very confusing.
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Aug 21, 2022 13:16:00 GMT
Another aspect of the crisis, from the Telegraph:
“Parents in turmoil as hundreds of after-school clubs face closure 'Wraparound' care sector hit by pandemic, cost of living crisis and staff shortages
Almost 700 breakfast and after-school clubs have been forced to close in the last year, with hundreds more at risk of shutting.
Parents fear they will be forced to cut their working hours when children return to school next month.
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An estimated 40pc of parents rely on “wraparound” care out of school hours, but the sector has been crippled by the pandemic, cost-of-living crunch and a recruitment crisis.
The Out of School Alliance, a trade body which represents half of the 6,800 school-aged childcare providers in England, warned “more clubs than ever were struggling to remain open”. In 2021/22 it lost almost 700 of its breakfast, after-school and holiday club members, and experts warned hundreds more are at risk.”
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Aug 21, 2022 13:18:10 GMT
“Breakfast and evening clubs are not solely run by education providers and many must rent a space on school sites. A shortfall in school budgets has meant higher rent costs are being passed on to care providers.
Ms Jackson Reece said one provider had recently been given two months’ notice of a rent increase from £12,000 a year to £68,000.”
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Post by davem on Aug 21, 2022 13:25:02 GMT
An 8 for me. Funny how quickly you forget this stuff isn't it? 9 out of 14 for me.
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Post by leftieliberal on Aug 21, 2022 13:40:28 GMT
West Ham 1-0 down to Brighton at home after half-an-hour and only ahead of ManUre at the bottom of the table on goal difference. At this rate, by next season, David Cameron will have no trouble remembering which team in claret and blue he supports.
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Post by lululemonmustdobetter on Aug 21, 2022 14:34:16 GMT
West Ham 1-0 down to Brighton at home after half-an-hour and only ahead of ManUre at the bottom of the table on goal difference. At this rate, by next season, David Cameron will have no trouble remembering which team in claret and blue he supports. Oh -damn, looks like I will have to deal with three very un-happy people when they get back!
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Post by neilj on Aug 21, 2022 14:38:15 GMT
I think this guy has nailed it
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Post by steve on Aug 21, 2022 14:49:03 GMT
Come on alec do the quiz you know you can get 14!
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