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Post by oldnat on Aug 14, 2022 23:37:48 GMT
I've more to say on recent political developments (on holiday at the moment) but just a short note on my experience of smart metres. I had one installed last year after a bit of badgering from my supplier. To be honest it was a bit of a no brainer for me as I live in a block of flats and my metre is in a genuinely inaccessible position to the extent I was having to get a ladder out to take readings! As such, a smart metre seemed quite an attractive proposition. Only trouble is the in-home display which is meant to provide live readings - supposedly one of the main benefits of smart metres - didn't work as it's too far away from the metre to transmit the readings (I'm on the top floor, the metres are on the ground floor). I don't really regret switching because, as I say, it was a pain in the arse to provide readings beforehand and my supplier now gets them without me having to supply the information, but I do question the rollout if basic problems like this still haven't been adequately addressed. Fwiw, I have now been sent a new display which I have to call my supplier to activate. Fearing it'll be just as useless as the last, I haven't yet dared, but I suppose I better bite the bullet sooner or later. In Truss's "New Britain" it will be illegal to refer to "metres". Smart yards will be mandatory.
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Post by oldnat on Aug 14, 2022 23:49:49 GMT
Thanks for yr reply. Fortunately I have, or had, plenty of time on my hands, and hence was able to endure the long-windedness, or should I say the proliixty or verboseness of yr reply, although I suspect you exaggerated the likely disintegrating effects of yr hypothetical double-use of "less" on other posters' mental and especially physical health. Anyway to get to the point. I think we should reserve the term Johnsonian to Sam Johnson rather than some fly-by-night politician. This is especially true when talking about language, in the use of which S Johnson was a master while B Johnson is a mere blusterer, a blowhard. Sam Johnson's contrafibularity is indeed a matter to be compunctious about. www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+blackaddr+dictionary&docid=608027469583839055&mid=F84A53FCF8FA9E88E01AF84A53FCF8FA9E88E01A&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
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Post by alurqa on Aug 15, 2022 0:38:22 GMT
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Post by steve on Aug 15, 2022 6:22:47 GMT
We now have the regime that did more to discourage inward investment and trade than any in history complaining that an effective freeze on energy prices based on a windfall tax of the massive profits of energy companies would discourage business investment.
Apart from the blindingly obvious that a 200%+ rise in energy prices for all but the energy companies is disastrous for business it's not even true of the energy companies who plan their investment a decade in advance.
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Post by steve on Aug 15, 2022 7:01:40 GMT
Spaffer continues with his end of term jolly this week it's Greece. Malakas
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Post by crossbat11 on Aug 15, 2022 7:57:20 GMT
Spaffer continues with his end of term jolly this week it's Greece. Maluka Probably recovering from his recent wedding bash. A lot of stress involved in organising those things. Then of course the summit with the water company bosses. Long discussions about donations to the Tory Party ensued no doubt. Tiring stuff. Probably a lot of newspaper articles to write too amidst fretting about nominations for honours. Give the sucker an even break. A holiday in Greece is the least he deserves for all his recent efforts on behalf of the nation. (What's the accepted parliamentary term for taking the piss? "Not entirely taking his prime ministerial duties quite as seriously as one would rather prefer him, in the nicest possible meaning of the term, to do. Madam Deputy Speaker" perhaps? )
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Post by steve on Aug 15, 2022 8:47:14 GMT
Handbags at dawn as managers play hold me back at millionaire kickball match between Spurs and Chelsea
Now back to the studio.
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Post by laszlo4new on Aug 15, 2022 8:49:35 GMT
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Post by isa on Aug 15, 2022 8:53:08 GMT
Pednatry notwithstanding, thanks both for posting one of my favourite bits of Blackadder genius.
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Post by mercian on Aug 15, 2022 9:08:30 GMT
isa"Pednatry" Could you help me with that one, I couldn't find it in Johnson's (or anyone else's) dictionary. 😄
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Post by isa on Aug 15, 2022 9:14:56 GMT
isa "Pednatry" Could you help me with that one, I couldn't find it in Johnson's (or anyone else's) dictionary. 😄 As Blackadder himself might have put it, "It is a common word down our way". It has certainly appeared before in this boutique.
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Post by leftieliberal on Aug 15, 2022 9:45:19 GMT
As I said, I'm a smart meter reader even though I haven't got a smart meter. I don't need one! Although I have a smart meter now, I've only had one since February 2020. For the three years before that, I was providing my electricity and gas supplier with monthly readings from my dumb meters, and I got into the habit of continuing to do so. The only difference is that I now take the readings from the IHD of the smart meters, rather than from the meters directly. I also found that I needed to know the temperature in my locality (in degree-days) in order to track my gas usage for heating accurately.
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Post by wb61 on Aug 15, 2022 9:45:19 GMT
Spaffer continues with his end of term jolly this week it's Greece. Maluka Probably recovering from his recent wedding bash. A lot of stress involved in organising those things. Then of course the summit with the water company bosses. Long discussions about donations to the Tory Party ensued no doubt. Tiring stuff. Probably a lot of newspaper articles to write too amidst fretting about nominations for honours. Give the sucker an even break. A holiday in Greece is the least he deserves for all his recent efforts on behalf of the nation. (What's the accepted parliamentary term for taking the piss? "Not entirely taking his prime ministerial duties quite as seriously as one would rather prefer him, in the nicest possible meaning of the term, to do. Madam Deputy Speaker" perhaps? ) I seem to remember someone telling me (whether apocryphal or not) that Dennis Skinner once referred to an honourable member being "akin to a colostomy bag", I don't know if that is what you are looking for. Or perhaps an update of the Disraeli quote " if Gladstone fell into the Thames, that would be a misfortune, and if anybody pulled him out, that, I suppose, would be a calamity.”Or an update of Winston Churchill of Lloyd George " He would make a drum out of the skin of his own mother in order to sound his own praises.”
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Aug 15, 2022 9:47:28 GMT
isa "Pednatry" Could you help me with that one, I couldn't find it in Johnson's (or anyone else's) dictionary. 😄 As Blackadder himself might have put it, "It is a common word down our way". It has certainly appeared before in this boutique. I believe it has something to do with how tiny flying insects walk.
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Post by leftieliberal on Aug 15, 2022 9:53:31 GMT
That would have been rather Johnsonian behaviour - from which I desist and choose to prefer the benefits to humanity of not unnecessarily causing upset.Johnsonian behaviour would depend on which Johnson you were referring to. Samuel of that ilk was not above upsetting the Scots with his dictionary definitions e.g. oats. [kudos to robbiealive for getting in ahead of me]
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Post by mercian on Aug 15, 2022 10:01:18 GMT
leftieliberal"The noblest prospect which a Scotchman ever sees, is the high road that leads him to England!" Johnson was of course a Mercian.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 10:12:12 GMT
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Post by birdseye on Aug 15, 2022 10:19:58 GMT
Interesting link. The article could have been a quarter of the length without losing anything much. Problem is, its one sided. I wonder why?
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Post by moby on Aug 15, 2022 10:27:12 GMT
Quite a few people would include masturbation under the heading 'having had sex'. Others would include Fellattio - even if no penetration took place. Never considered that you might be a wanker. My coffee is now all over the computer screen. Thanks @crofty!
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Post by laszlo4new on Aug 15, 2022 11:37:57 GMT
Interesting link. The article could have been a quarter of the length without losing anything much. Problem is, its one sided. I wonder why?
Probably because 1) the experiments wit the fake method is still used clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=simufilam2) because the manipulation has been known for almost a decade: pubpeer.com/publications/841806329CBD4CD2593E83C5E369EA3) The journals are full of fake research (apart from pub peer - here is another one: retractionwatch.com/ ) 4) Because it is largely about money: jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2775642 - cf. the scandal the authorisation of the first medication for 20 years (even the BBC reported it). 5) Because the nulhypothesis has been problematic for some time as the medication removed the packs, but didn't have any cognitive improvement. www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-05719-46) Because the cheating will be suppressed. nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/08/have-scientists-been-wrong-about-alzheimers-for-decades.htmlAdded: fake research is very common, and not only in medicine. The entire IQ is based on invented research (the experiments have never happened, and nobody has ever replicated them, yet it is used as real). The most quoted social psychologist invented his research, it was demasked, and a few years later some use his model (without reference, of course) as if nothing has happened.Myers and Briggs has been long dismantled as fantasy, yet it is used, and all the above examples also hurt people's lives.
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Post by barbara on Aug 15, 2022 11:42:00 GMT
Personally I am appalled by politicians such as Johnson re- his philandering. I would never knowingly vote for an adulterer - nor indeed for a candidate who I knew to be cohabiting - or who had had kids out of wedlock.I have to seriously question whether Truss would not face very serious obstacles to becoming Tory leader were she to have Johnson's past - ie several kids out of wedlock with different partners plus rumoured abortions etc. Can you explain why you included 'cohabiting' above; I have cohabited with my partner for over 30 years. What's your problem with that? I'm away on a cruise so belatedly reading UKPR2 or I'd haven't commented earlier. All I can say is I'm glad that outdated, judgemental, narrow minded, mysoginistic and sexist views like Graham's are in the minority today. Quite why people like Graham feel the need to pass judgement on people they have never met and have nothing to do with them is beyond me. But taking a leaf out of Graham's moral practice of passing judgement on others: I consider him to be absolutely the opposite of everything that Jesus (should he exist) stood for and if he considers himself a Christian he is totally deluding himself. He is the very worst sort of believer, not in Jesus but in some man made, narrow minded, patriarchal, mysoginistic kind of cult.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 11:56:13 GMT
Never considered that you might be a wanker. My coffee is now all over the computer screen. Thanks @crofty ! So long as that’s all it was moby.
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Post by barbara on Aug 15, 2022 11:56:23 GMT
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Post by graham on Aug 15, 2022 12:00:07 GMT
Can you explain why you included 'cohabiting' above; I have cohabited with my partner for over 30 years. What's your problem with that? I'm away on a cruise so belatedly reading UKPR2 or I'd haven't commented earlier. All I can say is I'm glad that outdated, judgemental, narrow minded, mysoginistic and sexist views like Graham's are in the minority today. Quite why people like Graham feel the need to pass judgement on people they have never met and have nothing to do with them is beyond me. But taking a leaf out of Graham's moral practice of passing judgement on others: I consider him to be absolutely the opposite of everything that Jesus (should he exist) stood for and if he considers himself a Christian he is totally deluding himself. He is the very worst sort of believer, not in Jesus but in some man made, narrow minded, patriarchal, mysoginistic kind of cult. Who says such views are 'outdated' - or 'narrow minded'? The fact that your judgement happens not to coincide with my opinion does not justify either label. As for being 'mysoginistic and sexist' , had you read my comments in their entirety you might have noticed that I listed a string of prominent male politicians whose behaviour I considered to be inappropriate. You are clearly making judgements -and ignoring relevant facts whilst doing so. Have you tried looking in a few good mirrors recently?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 12:00:21 GMT
Can you explain why you included 'cohabiting' above; I have cohabited with my partner for over 30 years. What's your problem with that? I'm away on a cruise so belatedly reading UKPR2 or I'd haven't commented earlier. All I can say is I'm glad that outdated, judgemental, narrow minded, mysoginistic and sexist views like Graham's are in the minority today. Quite why people like Graham feel the need to pass judgement on people they have never met and have nothing to do with them is beyond me. But taking a leaf out of Graham's moral practice of passing judgement on others: I consider him to be absolutely the opposite of everything that Jesus (should he exist) stood for and if he considers himself a Christian he is totally deluding himself. He is the very worst sort of believer, not in Jesus but in some man made, narrow minded, patriarchal, mysoginistic kind of cult. Ah….. I had just been going to ask what the correct order of seniority for cabinet posts was, in order to see who might be the next group to be “analysed”. But, on consideration, I won’t…
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Post by alec on Aug 15, 2022 12:03:47 GMT
More evidence of the serious impact of Brexit - www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/15/wildfires-europe-burn-area-equivalent-one-fifth-belgiumThis time, it's clear that the age of the Wales as a denominator of size, and the international kudos that brought to the UK, is now gone. Here we see Europe instead reverting to a complicated measure of a fifth of the size of Belgium. Apart from the fact that no one can easily visualize what Belgium looks like, working in fifths is confusing. Pre-Brexit, the measure adopted would have the far more obvious 'third of Wales'. Another sad day for the Brexit obsessives. Next: How Britain lost control of the expression "You're not a million miles away there".
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Post by pjw1961 on Aug 15, 2022 12:07:29 GMT
More disturbingly, an intolerance of criticism and treating it as illegitimate. That was another one on the list of characteristics of Fascism I posted previously.
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Post by pjw1961 on Aug 15, 2022 12:11:26 GMT
Ah….. I had just been going to ask what the correct order of seniority for cabinet posts was, in order to see who might be the next group to be “analysed”. But, on consideration, I won’t… Never mind the cabinet, I wonder what Graham will make of the current Prince of Wales becoming head of the Anglican Church on his mother's death? Even his eldest son would be no improvement since he is (pretty much) known to have had two extra-martial affairs.
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Post by graham on Aug 15, 2022 12:14:01 GMT
Ah….. I had just been going to ask what the correct order of seniority for cabinet posts was, in order to see who might be the next group to be “analysed”. But, on consideration, I won’t… Never mind the cabinet, I wonder what Graham will make of the current Prince of Wales becoming head of the Anglican Church on his mother's death? Even his eldest son would be no improvement since he is (pretty much) known to have had two extra-martial affairs. It would be thoroughly hypocritical - though I am not an Anglican.
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Post by barbara on Aug 15, 2022 12:14:35 GMT
I'm away on a cruise so belatedly reading UKPR2 or I'd haven't commented earlier. All I can say is I'm glad that outdated, judgemental, narrow minded, mysoginistic and sexist views like Graham's are in the minority today. Quite why people like Graham feel the need to pass judgement on people they have never met and have nothing to do with them is beyond me. But taking a leaf out of Graham's moral practice of passing judgement on others: I consider him to be absolutely the opposite of everything that Jesus (should he exist) stood for and if he considers himself a Christian he is totally deluding himself. He is the very worst sort of believer, not in Jesus but in some man made, narrow minded, patriarchal, mysoginistic kind of cult. Who says such views are 'outdated' - or 'narrow minded'? The fact that your judgement happens not to coincide with my opinion does not justify either label. As for being 'mysoginistic and sexist' , had you read my comments in their entirety you might have noticed that I listed a string of prominent male politicians whose behaviour I considered to be inappropriate. You are clearly making judgements -and ignoring relevant facts whilst doing so. Have you tried looking in a few good mirrors recently? You're absolutely right. I wouldn't normally be so rude as to make such comments about another poster but you seem to have no restraint in criticising other's behaviour so I'm just copying your example. But of one thing I am sure. Jesus would NOT have approved of you as one of his followers.
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