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Post by Old Southendian on Dec 22, 2021 12:43:27 GMT
Actually not sure anyone's posted the summary yet:
Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 36% (-1)
CON: 30% (-2)
LDEM: 12% (+2)
GRN: 8% (+1)
REFUK: 5% (-1)
via @yougov, 19 - 20 Dec
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Post by crossbat11 on Dec 22, 2021 12:46:57 GMT
Barbara (and others) Anent Barbara Castle ''She must be amongst the list of best PMs we never had.'' She is the only women in Steve Richards; book ''THE PRIME MINISTERS WE NEVER HAD'' I have bought for my son and will read when he has finished with it. A Barbara Castle anecdote. I never met her but revered her from afar when I was cutting my teeth on politics in the mid 70s. She fell foul of Sunny Jim, of course, when ancient political feuds were settled, and she disappeared from frontline politics from the late 1970s onwards. A great loss, I think. I'd read much about her past though and was aware of her her roles and achievements in the 1960s Wilson Governments. However, it was listening to her orations, and hearing her speak about politics, that always inspired me and stirred my emotions. Hence the anecdote. I was driving on my own from the West Midlands to Oldham one Saturday morning in November 1987, to watch the Villa play a Second Division football match against Oldham at the old Boundary Park ground. A hideous game played on one of the now discarded plastic astroturf grounds (we won 1-0 with an Alan McInally goal). That's the last of the football, I promise. What the three hour car journey allowed me to do was to listen to the radio for an extended time, something I have always loved doing but haven't often had to time to indulge. I had the radio pre-tuned to Radio 4 and at about 11, a one hour interview with Barbara Castle came on. I had no idea it was scheduled. She had long disappeared from British politics and it was first time that I'd listened to her for over a decade. I was utterly transfixed by it. She talked about her childhood and what had drawn into Labour politics, her experience of all the post war elections, including 1945, and the extraordinarily turbulent and vibrant political times she spent in the Wilson Governments of 1960s. All the feuding, divisions, economic shocks, political setbacks the great political beasts who sat in those Cabinets, the In Place of Strife battles and, it has to be said, some of the great achievements of those governments too. But it was her coruscating demolition of Thatcherism that I remember so well towards the end of her interview. Not just the argument she offered, but the passion and poetry of her words. That utterly recognisable voice. I can still hear it now. I loved her voice. As someone on the left of politics in 1987, they were desperate times. We'd just had another Thatcher landslide a few months earlier in 1987 and Labour seemed marooned in the political wilderness, maybe never to emerge. But listening to Castle that cold and grey November morning, driving through a part of the country she loved and knew so well, it reminded me of the power of emotion in politics. How words, thoughts, ideas and voices resonate. How even in desperate times, listening to a voice in the wilderness can inspire you to carry on. And it did and I carried on. One of the great Labour politicians of the 20th Century in my view. |
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Post by oldnat on Dec 22, 2021 12:47:07 GMT
Scores so far - posts per day - Top 6 1 Tancred 15.1 2 Danny 12.5 3 Steve 10.4 4 Carfrew 9.6 5 Colin 8.3 6 Old Nat 7.8 Not sure where the top two get promoted to but the playoffs look tight. TW, last year's favourites for promotion, have dropped down the rankings. If we use EFL play-off rules Tancred & Danny get promoted automatically, where to heaven knows. It's sixth against third in a two legged tie with OldNat being at home in the first leg against Steve. Fifth against fourth with Colin at home in the first leg against Carfrew. Let the battles commence.....OldNat ready?....Steve ready? This is not just robot wars, this is posting wars. Nicked that from the M & S adverts. A home match in Scotland would have to be played without spectators, so everyone else would have to bugger off, and I'm not going to risk travelling to anywhere that Johnson makes the rules! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2021 12:52:30 GMT
guymonde "...with the Corbynites saying - often publicly to my intense frustration - that he's Blair without the charisma." Bloody hell. When you think what the right of the party publicly said about Corbyn, that's pretty f*cking rich, don't you think? I found that intensely frustrating too, as neither a Blairite or a Corbynite. I'm a Wantlabourtowinite Fair enough. |
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Post by oldnat on Dec 22, 2021 12:53:47 GMT
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David Allen Green has a tweet especially for you.
Tweet didn't appear!
"The odd thing was that every evening loads of ‘wtf’ QTs would come onto the timeline with #tomorrowspaperstoday - and I would have no idea what the headline or splash actually was, as I was blocked
So I used to playfully imagine that they were all about Aston Villa"
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Colin: So the SM & Brexit have not distinguished personal delivery problems. Surprising ?I don't really understand what you mean by 'distinguished' in your post. I'm guessing something along the lines of 'created' or 'affected'. If so, the answer to your question, "Surprising?" is probably No. YouGov doesn't seem to explain its question very well, but it is framed in terms of personal deliveries rather than B2B, so I assume it mainly reflects experience in getting supplies from Amazon and other internet suppliers. In which case, it will reflect mainly global supply issues, as well as local delivery issues with congestion, driver shortages and so on at the DHLs of this world. The upshot seems to be that where SM and brexit are relevant factors, as in UK, a difference in shortages shows up. Where these are not particularly relevant factors, they don't. Surprising? What I meant was " was a factor distinguishing" experience of personal delivery problems in UK & EU. I agree that the question doesn't tell us what respondents thought "products" meant. Did they include experience , for example, of building products in a DIY or Contractor project on their home?. In any event , with UK " Europe's biggest B2C e-commerce market in 2019." *then I make the assumption that UK buyers would be responding in respect of a significantly greater proportion of those "products" than their German Swedish & French counterparts. I assume many of those imported products would have encountered the post Brexit UK/EU import procedures. That is why I expressed surprise that the Brexit derived bottlenecks did not appear to have made delivery times here ,any slower than in those three countries -according to this survey. . One might also observe the very different experience between Germany/Sweden & Spain/Italy/Denmark occurred within the SM . But as you say the question is rather vaguely put. The other thing which is of interest , i think, in connection with that whole supply chain issue is Labour Markets. Ian King in T today coins the expression " The Great Resignation". This is the quite extraordinary proportion of the workforce in UK & USA who have not returned-by choice-to their previous jobs. A few quotes :- "According to the US Labor Department, 4.4 million Americans quit their jobs in September, followed by another 4.2 million in October. Here, during the third quarter of the year, a record 400,000 Britons switched jobs. The sense, certainly in the UK, is that an important inflection point has been reached. As has been well documented, acute skill shortages persist in technology, while the extended lockdowns that crippled hospitality and live entertainment saw many workers permanently leave those sectors. Healthcare, where nearly two years of the pandemic have left workers exhausted, is another sector where many employees have resigned for good. Another reason to expect the situation to continue in 2022 is the growing imbalance between employee and employer expectations. Millennials, in particular, are voting with their feet when employers have proved reluctant to offer hybrid working arrangements, with recruitment agencies reporting growing numbers of 25 to 40-year-olds seeking fresh opportunities. Such is the willingness to move that, according to a recent survey of 6,000 workers by Randstad UK, the staffing firm, 69 per cent of British employees are ready to move jobs, while almost a quarter plan to do so within the next three to six months." King goes on to recount data on very large pay increases to retain staff in UK. That of course will feed into inflation which BoE have at last accepted as "sticky". And another effect is floated by King:- "It may, if inflation takes hold, finally bring to an end the four decade-long bull market in bonds. That bull run has coincided with, or has perhaps been driven by, a decline in the share of income going to workers and an increase in the share of income going to the providers of capital. Now it feels as if the pendulum is swinging back from capital to labour." It is hard to imagine that those factors will not have significant Political effects. Whilst it is amusing to think of a return to the 70s , our society is so very different to then, with un-unionised flexible labour markets. Markets which seem only too capable of facilitating voluntary change by workers on a massive scale , producing large pay rises. *Statista |
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More from Focal data 'Focaldata @focaldatahq Starmer prevails across the board now More trustworthy Starmer 44% (+10 vs. Apr) J'son 24% (-14) Better represents ppl like me Starmer 42% (+7) J'son 29% (-11) Better equipped for tough decisions Starmer 39% (+7) J'son 34% (-7) More competent Starmer 45% (+11) J'son 28% (-11) Back in April Johnson outperformed Starmer on every measure Dramatic change ! |
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Post by bantams on Dec 22, 2021 13:09:17 GMT
Two or three day ago I asked Bantams for comments on the accents expected of Bratford = Bradford folk, and he quickly responded by telling me that I should have spelt it Bratfud. Well I listened carefully to the University of Bradford`s team in last night`s University Challenge. Incidentally, their lady Labour MP fell well short of Barbara Castle`s abilities, and was hardly an asset. None of the four said Bratfud, and the two obviously from Yorkshire still had an r in their second syllable. This wasn`t a trilled rhototic r as is still found 20-30 miles to the west (Oldham up to Accrington, a reference book says) and I have recent evidence on this from a cousin just retired as a librarian in Accrington, and a professorial friend from Rossendale. So I am thinking Bradfud has spread in recent decades among younger non-professional people, and maybe Bantams can confirm. The UofB team did well, nearing the Edinburgh score on Monday, so maybe we will see them in action again. As you move around Yorkshire, as in Lancashire, the accent changes. Leeds is different to Bradford but not by much. Hull accents are very distinctive and as you move west to Goole & Selby they change so you still pick up the East Yorkshire twang but less so. Then Castleford & Pontefract has it's own flavour again. When the locals pronounce Bratfud it's said quickly and as though it's one syllable instead of two. I've heard radio presenters pronounce Horsforth as Horsefourth, locals say Orsefuth or Horsefuth. Same with Garforth. East Lancashire accents are lovely, we call it a burr. Soft. Burr-n- li. If you saw AJ on Strictly you'd been listening to a thick North Lancashire accent, nothing like Manchester. I watched University Challenge last night, Martin Roberts is from Warrington, Bell Ribeiro-Addy is from Brixton, Anthony Finkelstein from London & David Dowling from Doncaster. None could be said to be local. |
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Post by guymonde on Dec 22, 2021 13:24:16 GMT
@crossbat
"So is it terminal for the Tories, the legendary tipping point that suggests a structural shift in voter opinion, or is it a blip in response to a one off event?"
Reference to Tipping Point brings to mind the lamented Norbold of this parish (or our previous one). He of the hopeless council elections in East Essex but who alerted us to watch him on the said quiz show, where he sailed to victory and £10,000 which as I recall was put to a trip to Australia.
As to current tipping points, as an incorrigible glass half full merchant I sincerely hope so, but I'm still haunted by Johnson's Teflon feature. It was quite inconceivable he would be reelected a mayor of my city, but he was.
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Post by neilj on Dec 22, 2021 13:25:38 GMT
Crofty’s activity tab says he posted 14 times in the last 24 hours! No wonder he liked SDA’s post I’m after my second star. I'm not sure posting just to get your score up is quite cricket 😅 |
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Post by neilj on Dec 22, 2021 13:26:09 GMT
I’m after my second star. I'm not sure posting just to get your score up is quite cricket 😅 Then again |
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Post by bardin1 on Dec 22, 2021 13:30:14 GMT
Barbara (and others) Anent Barbara Castle ''She must be amongst the list of best PMs we never had.'' She is the only women in Steve Richards; book ''THE PRIME MINISTERS WE NEVER HAD'' I have bought for my son and will read when he has finished with it. A Barbara Castle anecdote. I never met her but revered her from afar when I was cutting my teeth on politics in the mid 70s. She fell foul of Sunny Jim, of course, when ancient political feuds were settled, and she disappeared from frontline politics from the late 1970s onwards. A great loss, I think. I'd read much about her past though and was aware of her her roles and achievements in the 1960s Wilson Governments. However, it was listening to her orations, and hearing her speak about politics, that always inspired me and stirred my emotions. Hence the anecdote. I was driving on my own from the West Midlands to Oldham one Saturday morning in November 1987, to watch the Villa play a Second Division football match against Oldham at the old Boundary Park ground. A hideous game played on one of the now discarded plastic astroturf grounds (we won 1-0 with an Alan McInally goal). That's the last of the football, I promise. What the three hour car journey allowed me to do was to listen to the radio for an extended time, something I have always loved doing but haven't often had to time to indulge. I had the radio pre-tuned to Radio 4 and at about 11, a one hour interview with Barbara Castle came on. I had no idea it was scheduled. She had long disappeared from British politics and it was first time that I'd listened to her for over a decade. I was utterly transfixed by it. She talked about her childhood and what had drawn into Labour politics, her experience of all the post war elections, including 1945, and the extraordinarily turbulent and vibrant political times she spent in the Wilson Governments of 1960s. All the feuding, divisions, economic shocks, political setbacks the great political beasts who sat in those Cabinets, the In Place of Strife battles and, it has to be said, some of the great achievements of those governments too. But it was her coruscating demolition of Thatcherism that I remember so well towards the end of her interview. Not just the argument she offered, but the passion and poetry of her words. That utterly recognisable voice. I can still hear it now. I loved her voice. As someone on the left of politics in 1987, they were desperate times. We'd just had another Thatcher landslide a few months earlier in 1987 and Labour seemed marooned in the political wilderness, maybe never to emerge. But listening to Castle that cold and grey November morning, driving through a part of the country she loved and knew so well, it reminded me of the power of emotion in politics. How words, thoughts, ideas and voices resonate. How even in desperate times, listening to a voice in the wilderness can inspire you to carry on. And it did and I carried on. One of the great Labour politicians of the 20th Century in my view. In case you missed it Crossbat - this is still available on BBC Sounds (not the interview you heard but probably uses excerpts from it) www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b00tk7sf |
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Post by bantams on Dec 22, 2021 13:35:10 GMT
If we use EFL play-off rules Tancred & Danny get promoted automatically, where to heaven knows. It's sixth against third in a two legged tie with OldNat being at home in the first leg against Steve. Fifth against fourth with Colin at home in the first leg against Carfrew. Let the battles commence.....OldNat ready?....Steve ready? This is not just robot wars, this is posting wars. Nicked that from the M & S adverts. A home match in Scotland would have to be played without spectators, so everyone else would have to bugger off, and I'm not going to risk travelling to anywhere that Johnson makes the rules! Unfortunately the EFL make the rules, to Bratfud folk they're a reet set of eejits. No they don't! We can make up our own rules. UKPR (UKPR2) rules.....OK? |
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Post by turk on Dec 22, 2021 13:41:19 GMT
Danny
I do read your mostly nonsense re Covid. If vaccines are so useless as you have suggested on more than one occasion, perhaps you could explain why most of the people here in the US in intensive care are the unvaccinated and why over 90% of the people in IT in the U.K. are you guessed it the unvaccinated.
It’s the unvaccinated who are holding both our countries to perpetual Covid infection hostage. It takes all sorts to make the world ,but it takes a particular type of selfish idiot to refuse to be vaccinated at the expense of everybody else around them.
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Post by tancred on Dec 22, 2021 13:44:18 GMT
It was not that long ago people were saying 40% seemed to be the floor for Conservative support. Recently we have seen polling for Conservatives of 32, 31 and even 30% So my question is whether 30 is the new 40? I never thought 40% was the floor for the Conservatives. I do think that the support for Conservatives tends to be harder than that for other parties, given that it concentrates right wing voters. If there is a floor for the Tories it's 30% or thereabouts, which is roughly what they had in the 1997 collapse. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2021 13:57:16 GMT
Crofty’s activity tab says he posted 14 times in the last 24 hours! No wonder he liked SDA’s post I’m after my second star. And though I found totting up post quantity slightly odd I am grateful to you for the opportunity to add two more posts to my tally and my inexorable ascent to two star status. |
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Dec 22, 2021 13:59:25 GMT
We lived in North Yorkshire for 15 years until 2009 and our village still had plenty of born and bred locals. In the inflection of the odd word you could make out the difference in accent of those folk compared to those from Ripon, 5 miles north and also those from Harrogate 8 miles south. It was very, very localised. I guess we noticed as we were immigrants from just north of Watford.
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Post by tancred on Dec 22, 2021 13:59:49 GMT
Interesting discussions about changes between 1912, 1967 and now, which, with some exceptions, seems to concentrate on technological issues. For me from a working class background, brought up in a council house, whose father worked in the local factory and mum in a shop, there have been big changes since 1967 in terms of social and labour issues From my council estate I would estimate 95% plus children went to the same local primary followed by secondary modern school. When I was 15 the secondary modern became a comprehensive and amalgamated with another school. in 1976 out of a year group of around 400, under ten went on to a sixth form college. I was one of them out of those around went to not University The vast majority of boys went on to work in the local factories, a few became apprentice electricians/mechanics The girls tended to go into retail The local working mens clubs were busy and neighbourhood pubs well frequented Council houses were available and people at 18 put themselves on the waiting list to get one. Often children didn't move out of the home until they married. Grand parents often lived with their children when they could not look after themselves anymore Fast forward to the nineties and noughties and many things have improved, my nephews and nieces going to the same school and they have more opportunity to go to higher education. But others not so good, those reasonably well paid jobs in the local factories are not so prevalent. Secure full time jobs with fixed hours are less available Council housing has just about disappeared, replaced by other social housing and private renting. Security of tenure has gone down and the cost of renting has risen. The communities where most people knew each other and your family have to a large extent broken down, with more people moving away etc I appreciate this is from a working class background narrative, am sure it would be different to a middle class experience Talking about classes I think the huge difference in the last 30-40 years or so has been the breakdown of what was considered the traditional working class background. I personally think we have lost something, but appreciate others may think differently. Interesting post, thanks Neil. I am from what could be called a lower middle class background - my parents were educated to the age of 18 and my father was a sales rep while my mother was trained as a nursery teacher but ended up as a housewife. People from my background would have ended up as bank clerks or similar. Instead I went to university and ended up in the IT industry, despite having a completely irrelevant degree. I do have some nostalgia for the 1970s life - nowadays people have more money and freedom but less security in life and I am not sure if this makes people happier. |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Dec 22, 2021 14:02:24 GMT
I’m after my second star. And though I found totting up post quantity slightly odd I am grateful to you for the opportunity to add two more posts to my tally and my inexorable ascent to two star status. Well no, it was a crude attempt for you to try and portray someone as odd. And incidentally, you have counted my posts before now. |
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Post by Danny on Dec 22, 2021 14:03:20 GMT
Danny I do read your mostly nonsense re Covid. If vaccines are so useless as you have suggested on more than one occasion, perhaps you could explain why most of the people here in the US in intensive care are the unvaccinated and why over 90% of the people in IT in the U.K. are you guessed it the unvaccinated. It’s the unvaccinated who are holding both our countries to perpetual Covid infection hostage. It takes all sorts to make the world ,but it takes a particular type of selfish idiot to refuse to be vaccinated at the expense of everybody else around them. No theyre not. I for one didnt ask for any restrictions whatsoever. Bring it on. I have said repeatedly, its still the old suffering- so if they havnt been vaccinated and you believe thats their free choice and it would have solved the problem - why are we still in lockdown?
I have also pointed out repeatedly that all the surveys are saying a few months after vaccination your chance of catching covid is no less than if you hadnt been. The most likely explanation of thie discrepancy between this and your figure about hospitalisations, is that it is a subset of the unvaccinated who are at risk. Most of them are just as safe as the vaccinated. But then most people have always been safe.
The big risk is a significant absence of information about how much a vaccination really cuts your chances of death. We have no idea how many people have now had covid, and in particular how many in high risk groups. We have fundamental gaps in our knowledge. I have heard several people including the WHO saying it is pointless vaccinating the rest of the Uk population, or re vaccinating those already done. It wont make much difference to final outcome.
I heard someone interviewed from South Africa. Who said in the previous wave people took it seriously. This time they didnt. Its entirely possible the best strategy for the UK would have been to encourage omicron here as fast as possible, and that its becoming all cases here would lead to fewer not more hospitalisations. Thats the scenario not being mentioned by government.
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Post by eor on Dec 22, 2021 14:04:26 GMT
I don't think it's that exclusive - surely it can be the case that the situation doesn't require an active change right now, but that that could change by next week? I'm leaving the house and it's raining, do I need to put my umbrella up? No, it's not raining enough for that. 30 minutes later it's raining more, and I put my umbrella up - yes it's true to say that if I'd put it up straight away I'd be drier now than I am, but I'd also have been lugging an open umbrella around for half an hour I didn't need it... The disease is rife now. To use your analogy, it's pouring now and we are getting soaked with umbrellas ignored and in a couple of weeks if we start unfurling some of us may well still die of pneumonia. A hell of a lot more than if we just used the umbrellas we are carrying anyway, or take shelter from the rain. Yeah that's valid. But then we don't ban people from going out in the rain, or mandate that they must carry an umbrella and use it above a certain level of rainfall. Whereas we do, in occasional extreme circumstances, tell people not to travel because of the risk the expected weather presents to their own safety and potentially that of those who would have to rescue them. To go back to your original point, I don't see anything inherently contradictory about a restriction being necessary next week that would have been excessive this week. Of course, if that is the judgement being made here, it may very well turn out to have been the wrong one! |
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Dec 22, 2021 14:06:54 GMT
We have four 'Senior' members each with four 'pips'.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2021 14:10:42 GMT
The disease is rife now. To use your analogy, it's pouring now and we are getting soaked with umbrellas ignored and in a couple of weeks if we start unfurling some of us may well still die of pneumonia. A hell of a lot more than if we just used the umbrellas we are carrying anyway, or take shelter from the rain. Yeah that's valid. But then we don't ban people from going out in the rain, or mandate that they must carry an umbrella and use it above a certain level of rainfall. Whereas we do, in occasional extreme circumstances, tell people not to travel because of the risk the expected weather presents to their own safety and potentially that of those who would have to rescue them. To go back to your original point, I don't see anything inherently contradictory about a restriction being necessary next week that would have been excessive this week. Of course, if that is the judgement being made here, it may very well turn out to have been the wrong one! I suppose my point is, if it turns out we don't need to lockdown, then good. But if we do, we should have started straightaway. |
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Post by bantams on Dec 22, 2021 14:11:24 GMT
And though I found totting up post quantity slightly odd I am grateful to you for the opportunity to add two more posts to my tally and my inexorable ascent to two star status. Well no, it was a crude attempt for you to try and portray someone as odd. And incidentally, you have counted my posts before now. I know my place..... |
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Post by eor on Dec 22, 2021 14:16:49 GMT
@danny - much of what you've posted in your two replies to me seems to confirm rather than contradict the idea that deaths typically lag cases by 2-3 weeks, and none of it seems to back up your assertion yesterday that if omicron were going to lead to an increase in deaths we'd be seeing it already, less than a week after the recent step change in case levels began.
But happy to agree with you that we are not extinct as a species.
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Post by Old Southendian on Dec 22, 2021 14:17:34 GMT
Another one from Britain Elects. This is the Christmas rush, we'll get a drought of polls between now and the New Year I guess.
Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 37% (-1)
CON: 32% (-2)
LDEM: 13% (+3)
GRN: 5% (+1)
via @savantacomres, 17 - 19 Dec
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Post by bantams on Dec 22, 2021 14:18:17 GMT
Meanwhile back where it all started:
More than 13 million residents in the Chinese city of Xi'an have been confined to their homes as officials implement a strict lockdown in the weeks leading up to the Winter Olympics.
Every two days, only one member of each household will be allowed outdoors to buy essentials, the BBC's China correspondent Stephen McDonell reports.
All non-essential businesses have been closed and mass testing has started.
There has been an outbreak of the Delta variant in Xi’an over the past week, and more than 90 active Covid-19 cases have been confirmed.
Covid-19 is not the only virus residents are worrying about in the city, China media analyst Kerry Allen reports.
Media have been reporting this week that Xi’an is facing a “dual epidemic” as there have been “several reported cases of haemorrhagic fever, a natural epidemic disease with a high fatality rate”.
China Daily says today that there has been “increased incidence” of this and “an uptick in severe cases and fatalities”. However, it says that it is a “common” seasonal disease in northern China, and predominantly concentrated in rural areas.
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Post by Old Southendian on Dec 22, 2021 14:19:03 GMT
Another one from Britain Elects. This is the Christmas rush, we'll get a drought of polls between now and the New Year I guess. Westminster voting intention: LAB: 37% (-1) CON: 32% (-2) LDEM: 13% (+3) GRN: 5% (+1) via @savantacomres, 17 - 19 Dec Chgs. w/ 16 Dec Apologies to OldNat et al, here's an update:
Westminster Voting Intention:
LAB: 37% (-1)
CON: 32% (-2)
LDM: 13% (+3)
GRN: 5% (+1)
SNP: 4% (-1)
Via @savantacomres, 17-19 Dec
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