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Post by Danny on Nov 26, 2024 18:29:36 GMT
Interesting take on why muslims are deserting labour - because the state wasnt ever very hot on teaching religion, but nowadays its a subject many schools have dropped. Its not compulsory in the curriculum so cash strapped schools have dispensed with it. This has led to a growth in muslim private schools, which of course the government is now taxing at 20%. Muslim community sees it as another state attack.
Taxing private schools seems to be one of those issues which cuts through decisively. But not for the general public attending state schools, specifically for the 10% or so who have a child or relative going to one. They havn't made any counterbalancing friends with this policy because those going to bad state schools will still be going to bad state schools with not even a promise to do anything much about it. Those going to the better state schools quite possibly may have toyed with going to private schools anyway, so are unlikely to be impressed by taxing them. But those attending them seem to be becoming rabidly anti labour, recruiting as many friends and acquaintences as they can. And the group which matters is these middle income parents who can only just afford it, but who might otherwise have been middle class socialist who form the backbone of labour support nowadays.
Parents really do not like attacks on their children's wellbeing by a government.
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Post by colin on Nov 26, 2024 18:32:35 GMT
There is one political leader who is having second thoughts. But he is going to be turfed out of office soon :- " German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said on Monday there should be no fines in the European Union for car companies that do not comply with carbon emission limits. "The money must remain in the companies for the modernisation of their own industry, their own company," he told reporters." Reuters It says in the Telegraph they are thinking of softening targets here: “ Britain poised to water down electric vehicle rulesFast-track consultation to consider greater flexibility for carmakers to meet net zero mandate” “ The Government is expected to stress that a final 2030 deadline for new petrol and diesel sales is non-negotiable. However, it is also likely to suggest that carmakers will be able to delay cuts to petrol and diesel sales in the run-up to 2030, provided they make up for it by selling even more electric cars later on.” Not sure how much effect that’s going to have. Attached is a graph of the current shortfall Interesting bar charts there. That preference for hybrids over plug ins is replicated in EU i think. Is this customers saying , we can't be arsed to hunt charging stations, and these are cheaper to buy and less complex with no battery related stress. ? ie making judgements on the basis of their own experience and circumstance rather than grand political declarations ? |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 26, 2024 18:34:16 GMT
"Russia has banned a string of Britain’s cabinet ministers from entering the country in response to what it called London’s “Russophobic” policies, the Associated Press news agency reports. Among those it was targeting included chancellor Rachel Reeves, deputy prime minister Angela Rayner, home secretary Yvette Cooper and more than a dozen other senior politicians in the new Labour government, AP says" How will they ever live with the shame of being banned from Russia 😀 What, no ban on Farage? Well I never  . He didn’t mention Starmer either  |
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Post by neilj on Nov 26, 2024 18:38:44 GMT
What, no ban on Farage? Well I never . He didn’t mention Starmer either Putin banned him way back in 2022, around the time Farage was saying Putin was the leader he most admred Putin also hasn't banned his besty's Trump and Mudk |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 26, 2024 18:40:03 GMT
He didn’t mention Starmer either Putin banned him way back in 2022, around the time Farage was saying Putin was the leader he most admred Putin also hasn't banned his besty's Trump and Mudk Apparently he banned Piers Morgan at the same time? Has he banned Truss? Or Davey? |
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Post by neilj on Nov 26, 2024 18:47:14 GMT
Putin banned him way back in 2022, around the time Farage was saying Putin was the leader he most admred Putin also hasn't banned his besty's Trump and Mudk Apparently he banned Piers Morgan at the same time? Has he banned Truss? Or Davey? No idea, I remember he banned those critical of him, including David Lammy Obviously he won't ban his friends, Farage for instance blamed the West for the reason the war criminal and murderous dictator Putin invaded Ukraine just a few months ago |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 26, 2024 18:49:17 GMT
Apparently he banned Piers Morgan at the same time? Has he banned Truss? Or Davey? No idea, I remember he banned those critical of him, including David Lammy Obviously he won't ban his friends, Farage for instance blamed the West for the reason the war criminal and murderous dictator Putin invaded Ukraine just a few months ago I’ve been trying to find a list, see if you and Steve et cetera are on it… |
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Post by neilj on Nov 26, 2024 18:50:15 GMT
Thinking about it Putin is more likely to give Farage a Hero of the Russian Federation medal for his support over Brexit and the Ukraine than ban him
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Post by neilj on Nov 26, 2024 18:55:12 GMT
No idea, I remember he banned those critical of him, including David Lammy Obviously he won't ban his friends, Farage for instance blamed the West for the reason the war criminal and murderous dictator Putin invaded Ukraine just a few months ago I’ve been trying to find a list, see if you and Steve et cetera are on it… It runs into hundreds of UK Politicians, but not Farage |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 26, 2024 18:56:26 GMT
It says in the Telegraph they are thinking of softening targets here: “ Britain poised to water down electric vehicle rulesFast-track consultation to consider greater flexibility for carmakers to meet net zero mandate” “ The Government is expected to stress that a final 2030 deadline for new petrol and diesel sales is non-negotiable. However, it is also likely to suggest that carmakers will be able to delay cuts to petrol and diesel sales in the run-up to 2030, provided they make up for it by selling even more electric cars later on.” Not sure how much effect that’s going to have. Attached is a graph of the current shortfall Interesting bar charts there. That preference for hybrids over plug ins is replicated in EU i think. Is this customers saying , we can't be arsed to hunt charging stations, and these are cheaper to buy and less complex with no battery related stress. ? ie making judgements on the basis of their own experience and circumstance rather than grand political declarations ? Yes there seem to be a range of concerns: even if you can find a charging station it may be out of order, public chargers can be expensive, there are insurance issues apparently, cars might be more easily written off because of damage to the battery pack, worries about resale values, not everyone can charge at home, range shortens in cold weather, et cetera et cetera… I don’t know how much these pertain in practice, or bother people in practice. And another thing that I’m not sure about is whether EV prices are falling as much as they might, given falls in battery prices? Chinese EVs might be a lot cheaper, but how much of that is state subsidy? If you lineup enough ducks, you might overcome a lot of concern, hence the take up in places like Norway? |
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Post by Danny on Nov 26, 2024 19:09:04 GMT
@danny The conservative party won an overall majority in 1979, 1983, 1987, 1992, a plurality in 2010 and another majority in 2015 all as a pro European union party. No. It only did so in 2010 because it had already become an EU critical party already promising referenda on any future changes. Already conceded the principle terms of membership were not a matter for government, but of a national vote. And in 2015 it was the party offering a chance to vote to leave. |
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Post by Danny on Nov 26, 2024 19:15:11 GMT
we've seen that with removing VAT on private schools, farm inheritance tax, employers NIC, but someone has to pay up Taken away 1bn from private school parents who already save the state £4bn a year by paying to educate their own kids instead of the state doing so. So thats now £5bn the state owes them. What Im saying is no one is willing to discuss the real issue of how much to spend and where to raise it. That its an active government choice not to fix school buildings, or improve the quality of the teaching they offer. Its all shadow boxing and hiding what is really going on. |
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Post by domjg on Nov 26, 2024 19:17:03 GMT
Re Farage and Putin, for all those ( mercian) who have time for Farage while simultaneously having a picture of Spitfires over the South Downs on their wall do you think if around at that time Farage would have been a Churchill or a Halifax? Halifax without a doubt. A strange feature of the new populist right is that they don't want to tell us how strong we are but how weak and in need of protection we are internally and externally. It strikes me that it's a movement for prey animals. Prey animals sounds harmless but they're easy to corral, are very easily scared and move unthinkingly in large packs stomping all under their feet. I was reading about a new civil defence leaflet that's recently been sent to all households in Sweden. It makes clear early on that if their country is invaded Swedes must never believe enemy disinformation that their armed forces have surrendered. The publication states: 'We will never stop fighting'. Not prey animals. |
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Post by Danny on Nov 26, 2024 19:21:50 GMT
peace deal announced for Lebanon. Israel will agree to stop attacking providing the lebanese army and UN suppress all Hamas forces therein. And reserve the right to attack again at any time they feel threatened. So they want the locals to carry on figting their war while they busy themselves attacking Iran (they just said they need to now address Iran).
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 26, 2024 19:25:19 GMT
I’ve been trying to find a list, see if you and Steve et cetera are on it… It runs into hundreds of UK Politicians, but not Farage as long as you’re not on it. Doesn’t seem fair when some of the others got those freebies… |
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Post by Danny on Nov 26, 2024 19:25:46 GMT
Same issue as in Germany. This transition to evs is not going neatly according to political targets. Customers weren't consulted and have their own ideas about buying an ev Its a funny thing, I keep making sceptical posts about the switch to electric vehicles which get attacked as ridiculously pessimistic. Only the public is voting with its pocketbook. There was an item today about jaguar, which is to (or maybe has) ceased ICE vehicle production. The problem is, whereas before they were selling £50,000 ice cars, now they are offerng £100,000 electic cars. Thats a bit of a marketing hill to climb. |
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Post by Danny on Nov 26, 2024 19:26:58 GMT
If the lunatic does what he says with tariffs and trade levels stay approximately the same on imports from mexico, Canada and China alone U.S. companies and consumers will be paying around an additional @$350 billion in taxes in the first year alone about the equivalent of $1100 for each U.S.citizen. Would certainly help the deficit. |
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Post by neilj on Nov 26, 2024 19:38:06 GMT
Election Maps UK
2h
MPs Declared Positions on Assisted Dying:
👍 For: 166 (+14)
👎 Against: 177 (+13)
🤷 Unsure / Won't Say / Abstain: 119 (+40)
❓ Unknown: 177 (-67)
Forecasted Result:
👍 For: 282
👎 Against: 287
Changes w/ Yesterday.
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Post by Danny on Nov 26, 2024 19:39:48 GMT
Re Farage and Putin, for all those ( mercian) who have time for Farage while simultaneously having a picture of Spitfires over the South Downs on their wall do you think if around at that time Farage would have been a Churchill or a Halifax? Halifax without a doubt. I do not think Halifax was anything except a patriot, just had a different view on what was best. Whereas to answer your question I have to first decide whether Farage is a patriot or not. That isnt clear to me. For example, everything he has achieved politically was on Russia's wish list as an enemy of the UK. Churchill was very hot on publicising how weak we were. With the aim of fixing it, of course. Its similarly hard to judge what Trump really thinks. Isolationism has always been a much better option for the US than it is for Britain. |
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Post by graham on Nov 26, 2024 19:50:11 GMT
I am very grateful for the supportive comments made re- my earlier post. To be honest, to commit to such a major operation at my fairly advanced age probably requires a great 'will to live' or 'zest for life.' I am not sure that I any longer satisfy that criterion. It does make me open to the suggestion of 'giving up' - though I have friends who are sympathetic to the view that 73 is 'quite a good innings.'My sister and a brother are keen that I should accept surgery - understandably I suppose - but neither are likely to see the world through my eyes.
I knew a guy of 62 who died of bowel cancer in April 2020 at the time of Covid.He had not sought any treatment at all or been given a diagnosis. His wife had died two years or so earlier and he just 'gave up',
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Post by colin on Nov 26, 2024 20:02:53 GMT
Re Farage and Putin, for all those ( mercian ) who have time for Farage while simultaneously having a picture of Spitfires over the South Downs on their wall do you think if around at that time Farage would have been a Churchill or a Halifax? Halifax without a doubt. A strange feature of the new populist right is that they don't want to tell us how strong we are but how weak and in need of protection we are internally and externally. It strikes me that it's a movement for prey animals. Prey animals sounds harmless but they're easy to corral, are very easily scared and move unthinkingly in large packs stomping all under their feet. I was reading about a new civil defence leaflet that's recently been sent to all households in Sweden. It makes clear early on that if their country is invaded Swedes must never believe enemy disinformation that their armed forces have surrendered. The publication states: 'We will never stop fighting'. Not prey animals. A slightly different take on that Swedish civil defence leaflet :- www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/25/sweden-prepare-war-citizens-booklet-crisis#:~:text=The%20government%20booklet%2C%20titled%20%E2%80%9CIn,war%2C%20natural%20disasters%20and%20pandemics. At least the Nordic countries are taking the threat of Putin seriously :- www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjr4zwj2lgdo |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 26, 2024 20:10:49 GMT
shifting leftwards… The Guardian view on Donald Trump’s tariffs: protectionism is no longer taboo in politicsEditorial www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/26/the-guardian-view-on-donald-trump-tariffs-protectionism-is-no-longer-taboo-in-politics“ Trade involves sacrifices to achieve gains. Cheaper consumer goods might lead to fewer domestic jobs or lower wages in certain industries. Increased imports can mean a reduction in local manufacturing. Running a trade deficit is not necessarily harmful, but it requires an activist policy to ensure that the pain is not geographically concentrated. For decades, the neoliberal economic order championed a vision of a borderless world, where goods and services flowed freely with minimal barriers. This ideal dominated global trade policy and corporate strategy, rendering “protectionism” taboo in mainstream debate. However, since the global financial crash, scepticism about globalisation has steadily grown…” |
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Post by pjw1961 on Nov 26, 2024 20:54:52 GMT
No idea, I remember he banned those critical of him, including David Lammy Obviously he won't ban his friends, Farage for instance blamed the West for the reason the war criminal and murderous dictator Putin invaded Ukraine just a few months ago I’ve been trying to find a list, see if you and Steve et cetera are on it… Today's batch per Huffpost: "Angela Rayner, Yvette Cooper and Rachel Reeves are among those unable to enter the country from now on, the Russian foreign ministry announced ... The other cabinet members who have been banned are Shabana Mahmood, Pat McFadden, Ed Milliband, Wes Streeting, Steve Reed, Jonathan Reynolds, Liz Kendall, Jo Stevens, Bridget Phillipson, Hillary Benn, Lucy Powell and Angela Smith. Junior defence minister Maria Eagle is also banned, as are Labour MPs Derek Twigg and Gurinder Josan, plus Tory MP Andrew Snowden. Journalists Tom Ball and Dan Woodland are also banned, as is RAF commanding officer Keith Bissett, Ministry of Defence adviser Ben Judah and a number of businessmen and women." |
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Post by pjw1961 on Nov 26, 2024 20:56:18 GMT
Re Farage and Putin, for all those ( mercian ) who have time for Farage while simultaneously having a picture of Spitfires over the South Downs on their wall do you think if around at that time Farage would have been a Churchill or a Halifax? So a tank or a bomber? |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 26, 2024 21:00:35 GMT
Re Farage and Putin, for all those ( mercian ) who have time for Farage while simultaneously having a picture of Spitfires over the South Downs on their wall do you think if around at that time Farage would have been a Churchill or a Halifax? So a tank or a bomber? an insurance company or a bank? |
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Post by shevii on Nov 26, 2024 21:10:20 GMT
shifting leftwards… The Guardian view on Donald Trump’s tariffs: protectionism is no longer taboo in politicsEditorial www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/26/the-guardian-view-on-donald-trump-tariffs-protectionism-is-no-longer-taboo-in-politics“ Trade involves sacrifices to achieve gains. Cheaper consumer goods might lead to fewer domestic jobs or lower wages in certain industries. Increased imports can mean a reduction in local manufacturing. Running a trade deficit is not necessarily harmful, but it requires an activist policy to ensure that the pain is not geographically concentrated. For decades, the neoliberal economic order championed a vision of a borderless world, where goods and services flowed freely with minimal barriers. This ideal dominated global trade policy and corporate strategy, rendering “protectionism” taboo in mainstream debate. However, since the global financial crash, scepticism about globalisation has steadily grown…”Blimey! And they're saying that even after Larry has retired! |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 26, 2024 21:21:56 GMT
shifting leftwards… The Guardian view on Donald Trump’s tariffs: protectionism is no longer taboo in politicsEditorial www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/26/the-guardian-view-on-donald-trump-tariffs-protectionism-is-no-longer-taboo-in-politics“ Trade involves sacrifices to achieve gains. Cheaper consumer goods might lead to fewer domestic jobs or lower wages in certain industries. Increased imports can mean a reduction in local manufacturing. Running a trade deficit is not necessarily harmful, but it requires an activist policy to ensure that the pain is not geographically concentrated. For decades, the neoliberal economic order championed a vision of a borderless world, where goods and services flowed freely with minimal barriers. This ideal dominated global trade policy and corporate strategy, rendering “protectionism” taboo in mainstream debate. However, since the global financial crash, scepticism about globalisation has steadily grown…”Blimey! And they're saying that even after Larry has retired! I know! I was surprised. Obviously they express caveats, including things like over Pharma, which I agree with (#redpill etc.) but even so… (Some media are doing a re-evaluation in the light of the election result. Not simply because of who won, but who voted for who) |
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Post by neilj on Nov 26, 2024 21:22:17 GMT
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Post by pjw1961 on Nov 26, 2024 21:38:47 GMT
an insurance company or a bank? "Oooh Yes!" |
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