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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 27, 2024 21:08:14 GMT
On the subject of classic sitcoms, and apologies if it's already been nominated many times by other posters, but can I put a word in for Love Thy Neighbour?
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Post by neilj on Jan 27, 2024 21:12:00 GMT
On the subject of classic sitcoms, and apologies if it's already been nominated many times by other posters, but can I put a word in for Love Thy Neighbour? No
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Post by pete on Jan 27, 2024 21:18:50 GMT
Steptoe and Son Rising Damp
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2024 21:26:42 GMT
On the subject of classic sitcoms, and apologies if it's already been nominated many times by other posters, but can I put a word in for Love Thy Neighbour? No I would like to know which word first. Also….can you REALLY REALLY just stick to the one word? I would be both impressed and surprised.
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Post by graham on Jan 27, 2024 21:32:04 GMT
How about 'Here's Harry' ?
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 27, 2024 21:33:24 GMT
How about 'Here's Harry' ? Covered in The Crown, I think.
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Post by mercian on Jan 27, 2024 22:16:33 GMT
I always found it amusing that Johnny Speight wrote Till Death Us Do Part to poke fun at old-fashioned people, but it became extremely popular because the character Alf Garnett said things that even then were rather beyond the pale in polite society. It could also have been because Warren Mitchell was a far better actor than Tony Booth. Though not perhaps his son-in-law.
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Post by isa on Jan 27, 2024 22:16:40 GMT
JamesE beat me to the draw, but here's the full Opinium twitter link that gives some interesting sub data to this latest Opinium poll. For instance Labour now lead on what are usually Tory strengths like housebuilding, house prices, immigration and handing of the economy. Quite a jump in Starmer's personal approval ratings too. Sunak's are static. Call me Mr Thicky, but that looks like a lead of 15% to me.
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Post by mercian on Jan 27, 2024 22:19:42 GMT
Call me Mr Thicky, but that looks like a lead of 15% to me. Or 32% over the real challengers 🤣
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 27, 2024 22:19:56 GMT
grahamMy father was a big Harry Worth fan and I became one too when I was old enough to appreciate the humour. The hapless bungler with a kind heart, good intent and an endearing character. All the ingredients of a classic comic character. It t always struck me that my father had a lot in common with Harry and it may well have been why he found him so funny, and why I did too.
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 27, 2024 22:21:47 GMT
JamesE beat me to the draw, but here's the full Opinium twitter link that gives some interesting sub data to this latest Opinium poll. For instance Labour now lead on what are usually Tory strengths like housebuilding, house prices, immigration and handing of the economy. Quite a jump in Starmer's personal approval ratings too. Sunak's are static. Call me Mr Thicky, but that looks like a lead of 15% to me. What's a percentage point between friends?
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Post by Dave on Jan 27, 2024 22:24:07 GMT
www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/27/revealed-uk-granted-asylum-to-rwandan-refugees-while-arguing-country-was-safe'Four Rwandans were granted refugee status in the UK over “well-founded” fears of persecution at the same time as the government was arguing in court and parliament that the east African country was a safe place to send asylum seekers. An investigation by the Observer and the campaign group Led by Donkeys reveals for the first time details of Home Office decisions on Rwandans who have been given asylum in the past four months, claiming they were at risk from the regime.' Awkward doesn’t begin to describe this. More like exhibit A in appeals cases. In a sane world this would be the final straw for this charade of a ‘policy’.
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Post by pjw1961 on Jan 27, 2024 22:36:15 GMT
On the subject of classic sitcoms, and apologies if it's already been nominated many times by other posters, but can I put a word in for Love Thy Neighbour? As Neilj said "no". You'll be suggesting "On the buses" next.
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Post by pjw1961 on Jan 27, 2024 22:38:10 GMT
Westminster Voting Intention: LAB: 42% (+2) CON: 27% (=) LDM: 10% (+1) RFM: 10% (=) GRN: 6% (=) SNP: 3% (=) Via @opiniumresearch , 24-26 Jan. Changes w/ 10-12 Jan. 15 points is just above the norm for a Labour lead with Opinium.All their polls in the past year have been in the range of 10-18 points. I'm really looking forward to doing the "average opposition lead" number for January. I have a feeling it will be a doozy.
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 27, 2024 22:39:10 GMT
www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/27/revealed-uk-granted-asylum-to-rwandan-refugees-while-arguing-country-was-safe'Four Rwandans were granted refugee status in the UK over “well-founded” fears of persecution at the same time as the government was arguing in court and parliament that the east African country was a safe place to send asylum seekers. An investigation by the Observer and the campaign group Led by Donkeys reveals for the first time details of Home Office decisions on Rwandans who have been given asylum in the past four months, claiming they were at risk from the regime.' Awkward doesn’t begin to describe this. More like exhibit A in appeals cases. In a sane world this would be the final straw for this charade of a ‘policy’. Maybe we're sounding out North Korea as a possible alternative to Rwanda. Legislate quickly to make it a safe destination.
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Post by alec on Jan 27, 2024 22:40:47 GMT
Brexit rears it's ugly head again - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68113842The story is about the emergence of a possible deal to get Stormont back up and running, but hey - who really cares about that? Of course, persuading the DUP revolves around that Brexit deal, and the briefing is interesting. "The Daily Telegraph has reported that the government is offering to introduce a new requirement that all new UK laws are "screened" to ensure they will not increase the impact of the sea border. The newspaper said it would mean all legislation would have to accompanied by a ministerial statement confirming it did not have a "significant adverse impact" on internal UK trade. Effectively, the government would choose to limit active divergence from the EU. "
(My emphasis).
It's just a story in the Telegraph, regurgitated by the BBC, but I think it's telling how far this debate has come. Now, not diverging is not longer controversial, even among the bulk of Conservatives. Who cares? It's just one great big embarrassment, that the once great party of office could be so childishly idiotic to march into such an awful deal with our biggest trading partner, and no one, apart from the lunatics in the Frost camp ever want to revisit the mess they made. Just make it all go away, whatever it takes.
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Post by isa on Jan 27, 2024 22:43:05 GMT
Surprisingly little love for Fawlty Towers in the favourite sitcom poll. A couple of the episodes might not have aged well, but it's surely the Gold Standard in terms of sitcom writing. Lots of exquisitely clever humour in evidence.
If we're allowed American sitcoms, then I'll go for Frasier. Beautifully written and great characterisation. With great juxtaposition between the characters - Frasier/Niles v. Martin. A winning formula, carried on in another of my favourites, The Big Bang Theory (Leonard/Sheldon v. Penny).
If I'm restricted to home grown stuff, though, I nominate Still Game, which I was introduced to by Scottish friends. For anyone unfamiliar, it's like Last of the Summer Wine, only savagely, (and occasionally crudely), funny. The whole series is on the BBC iPlayer. In fact, my UKPR2 moniker is in part a tribute to one of the characters. Laugh Out Loud moments in every episode.
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Post by crossbat11 on Jan 27, 2024 22:45:06 GMT
On the subject of classic sitcoms, and apologies if it's already been nominated many times by other posters, but can I put a word in for Love Thy Neighbour? As Neilj said "no". You'll be suggesting "On the buses" next. I used to like old Blakey and I did harbour romantic yearnings for Olive for a time.
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Post by pjw1961 on Jan 27, 2024 22:47:16 GMT
On sitcoms, all my favourites have been mentioned already, but I don't think anyone has given a nod to "The Vicar of Dibley" which is certainly worthy of a mention. Also what might arguably be the original one - Hancock's Half Hour (more the radio series than the TV one for me, but both are great).
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Post by oldnat on Jan 27, 2024 22:48:08 GMT
Scottish Westminster Voting Intention: LAB: 36% (+3) SNP: 33% (-4) CON: 16% (-2) LDM: 7% (=) RFM: 4% (New) Via @norstatgroup, 22-25 Changes w/12 - 15 June 2023 Slightly puzzled by this report. Norstatgroup bought Panelbase in July 2023, and the supposed comparison is with the Panelbase poll of June 2023. Yet, that poll had Lab 34% : SNP 34% : Con 18% : LD 7% - so the actual changes since then are Lab +2 : SNP -1 : Con -2 : LD =.
Also surprising that the comparison is made with the June Panelbase poll, and not the October one (when Norstatgroup owned Panelbase) The changes since that poll are Lab +4 : SNP -2 : Con = : LD =.
Perhaps that's because the compilers of the Wiki list missed that poll and/or the journalist writing the report isn't very good (to put it mildly!). The link to it is via - norstat.co/markets/united-kingdom/political-polls
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Post by pjw1961 on Jan 27, 2024 22:49:05 GMT
As Neilj said "no". You'll be suggesting "On the buses" next. I used to like old Blakey and I did harbour romantic yearnings for Olive for a time. "I'll get you Butler!" (as Macmillan said to RAB).
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Post by isa on Jan 27, 2024 22:49:25 GMT
Call me Mr Thicky, but that looks like a lead of 15% to me. Or 32% over the real challengers 🤣 Challengers to CON, certainly.
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Post by davem on Jan 27, 2024 23:00:47 GMT
I have just experienced an example of broken Britain.
I love 9 miles from the Stadium of Light in Sunderland, my son lives in Leith 140 miles away.
We left the Vaux taproom close to the ground at the same time. He got home to his flat in Edinburgh before I got home using public transport.
Two buses failed to show up, so I got another one which goes a long way around taking an extra 45 mins, but it would get me home. Part way through the journey the relief driver fails to turn up, rather than wait I walked the last two miles home, still getting home before the bus I was on .
If we want people to use public transport this is just not good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2024 23:10:47 GMT
davem“ I love 9 miles from the Stadium of Light in Sunderland.” Bit too personal for me Dave. (You don’t happen to know my best friend, John McKnight, who is a Sundyland season ticket holder do you?)
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Post by davem on Jan 27, 2024 23:12:50 GMT
davem“ I love 9 miles from the Stadium of Light in Sunderland.” Bit too personal for me Dave. (You don’t happen to know my best friend, John McKnight, who is a Sundyland season ticket holder do you?) I know a McKnight family. One was a Labour councillor and I coached his son at Washington Cricket Club.
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Post by isa on Jan 27, 2024 23:32:56 GMT
graham My father was a big Harry Worth fan and I became one too when I was old enough to appreciate the humour. The hapless bungler with a kind heart, good intent and an endearing character. All the ingredients of a classic comic character. It t always struck me that my father had a lot in common with Harry and it may well have been why he found him so funny, and why I did too. I liked it when he stood in a shop doorway entrance and put out an arm and a leg and the shop window reflection looked like he was raising both arms and legs in the air at the same time. Very amusing, although I was only about 10 at the time. I like to think I have become a little more discerning in my comedy appreciation since.
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Post by steve on Jan 27, 2024 23:36:39 GMT
In his second trial for defamation the rapist's judge said " the decks were stacked against him before the trial started " They were indeed. He was guilty And He had Alina Habba as an attorney. youtu.be/u4bNx9cMEOk?si=zQDyswgDs-6gaV3S
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Post by peterbell on Jan 27, 2024 23:38:17 GMT
davem “ I love 9 miles from the Stadium of Light in Sunderland.” Bit too personal for me Dave. (You don’t happen to know my best friend, John McKnight, who is a Sundyland season ticket holder do you?) You need to give hime some slack Crofty. He had just seen the Mackems actually win a game. He is obviously back in LOVE with them, at least for this week.
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Post by mercian on Jan 27, 2024 23:47:48 GMT
Brexit rears it's ugly head again - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68113842The story is about the emergence of a possible deal to get Stormont back up and running, but hey - who really cares about that? Of course, persuading the DUP revolves around that Brexit deal, and the briefing is interesting. "The Daily Telegraph has reported that the government is offering to introduce a new requirement that all new UK laws are "screened" to ensure they will not increase the impact of the sea border. The newspaper said it would mean all legislation would have to accompanied by a ministerial statement confirming it did not have a "significant adverse impact" on internal UK trade. Effectively, the government would choose to limit active divergence from the EU. "
(My emphasis).
It's just a story in the Telegraph, regurgitated by the BBC, but I think it's telling how far this debate has come. Now, not diverging is not longer controversial, even among the bulk of Conservatives. Who cares? It's just one great big embarrassment, that the once great party of office could be so childishly idiotic to march into such an awful deal with our biggest trading partner, and no one, apart from the lunatics in the Frost camp ever want to revisit the mess they made. Just make it all go away, whatever it takes.
All our negotiators had to do was say that we wouldn't impose any border controls between Northern and southern Ireland, and tell the EU that they could order Ireland to do it if they wanted to. Give someone else the problem.
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Post by isa on Jan 28, 2024 0:13:07 GMT
In his second trial for defamation the rapist's judge said " the decks were stacked against him before the trial started " They were indeed. He was guilty And He had Alina Habba as an attorney. youtu.be/u4bNx9cMEOk?si=zQDyswgDs-6gaV3SSounds like a Star Wars baddie to me, (not that I know anything about such things).
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