oldnat
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Post by oldnat on Aug 23, 2022 23:33:55 GMT
mercian It's fortunate that every home is in walking distance of a local university and that there is no cost associated with living with parents. We are lucky to have you here with a solution for everything. There are ways of helping students though - by providing free tuition - and young workers as well by providing free bus passes to all under the age of 22.
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Post by mercian on Aug 23, 2022 23:45:23 GMT
mercian It's fortunate that every home is in walking distance of a local university and that there is no cost associated with living with parents. We are lucky to have you here with a solution for everything. You don't have to be such a d*ckhead. Who said anything about walking distance? Most people live in cities and most cities have at least one university (and cheapish public transport). Of course it's not an option for everyone, but the assumption that you have to leave your home area to get higher education is fallacious for most people.
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Post by steve on Aug 24, 2022 5:28:38 GMT
mercian "You don't have to be such a d*ckhead. " Try looking in the mirror sometime.
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Post by neilj on Aug 24, 2022 5:38:13 GMT
Well that's okay then...but not sure Truss's husband would agree or how that squares with her support of Johnson a known liar, law breaker and some one who protected and promoted a sexual predator and lied about that as well
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Post by steve on Aug 24, 2022 6:46:01 GMT
I drove through a wall that shouldn't have been there!
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Post by neilj on Aug 24, 2022 6:50:52 GMT
Surely it was the black dog's fault
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Post by catfuzz on Aug 24, 2022 6:51:06 GMT
In my mind, I’m picturing the car smashing through the wall, and with the dust settling, two officers clamber out of the car with a loud ‘“allo ‘allo, what’s all this, then?”
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Post by alec on Aug 24, 2022 7:04:06 GMT
Sound thinking here, that applies equally to the energy crisis -
"I find it's always the privileged who talk about 'individual' or 'personal' responsibility'. Because they're least impacted by the lack of collective action or public health policy. Those who are often already disadvantaged in society have far more to lose by these policies......if you're going to talk about 'living with it' because our 'risk assessment has changed', at least be honest that this risk assessment is vastly different for different people, and that 'personal responsibility' isn't a public health strategy that works for all or even most."
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Post by Danny on Aug 24, 2022 7:05:44 GMT
local, progressive, 38, and not afraid of saying that a choice between a 75 year old career hack and a 76 year old career hack isn't how the Democratic party should be trying to move forwards. makes you wonder if the house of lords as a home for politicians who refuse to retire might be useful after all. Also makes you realise how rigidly stratified the us is. They are too old but cannot be removed. Biden ran for president 50 years ago and would have been a good choice at that age. How has US politics become a pensioners' game?
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Post by barbara on Aug 24, 2022 7:48:12 GMT
Didn’t even know that qualification was a thing. Every day's a learning day on UKPR2. I didn't know A/O levels were a thing either. I did British Constitution as a full A level in 1972.
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Post by crossbat11 on Aug 24, 2022 7:52:01 GMT
In my mind, I’m picturing the car smashing through the wall, and with the dust settling, two officers clamber out of the car with a loud ‘“allo ‘allo, what’s all this, then?” Maybe they then impounded/arrested the bricks on the basis that they had obstructed a police investigation. Or maybe had failed to cooperate. Or resisted arrest. There are a number of possible charges
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Post by crossbat11 on Aug 24, 2022 7:53:01 GMT
Every day's a learning day on UKPR2. So did I .Only mine was a full A level. One-upmanship, hey. 😉😁
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Post by steve on Aug 24, 2022 7:57:01 GMT
alec There are some here who dismiss the impact of the energy and inflation crisis and indeed Brexit because their personal wealth protects then from the impact. The I'm all right fuck everyone else attitude was always prevalent in right wing thinking but in today's Tory party it's replaced any concept of the basic principle of governance that is to act in the public's interest
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Post by steve on Aug 24, 2022 8:00:55 GMT
crossbat11 It's obvious to me that the presence of street furniture was entirely responsible for preventing the passage of the collision investigation unit in its desired direction . If the carriageway had proceeded in the direction required then the incident would have been avoided.
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Post by Danny on Aug 24, 2022 8:01:45 GMT
In my mind, I’m picturing the car smashing through the wall, and with the dust settling, two officers clamber out of the car with a loud ‘“allo ‘allo, what’s all this, then?” Maybe they then impounded/arrested the bricks on the basis that they had obstructed a police investigation. Or maybe had failed to cooperate. Or resisted arrest. There are a number of possible charges R4 this morning reported police in Liverpool have asked criminals to please tell them who committed the recent murders there.
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Post by steve on Aug 24, 2022 8:03:49 GMT
crossbat11 Maybe they then impounded/arrested the bricks on the basis that they had obstructed a police investigation. It's a close call but on the balance of probabilities I would probably have shot the wall.
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Post by steve on Aug 24, 2022 8:11:03 GMT
@danny It's called asking for information basic policing. Registered and unregistered informants aren't normally law abiding citizens with a heightened sense of morality , they don't have the information required, in general it's those who want to be paid for the information because they think they can get away with it.That isn't to say that your average scrote wouldn't be quite prepared to bubble up some trash whose killed a 9 year old , free of charge, provided they weren't endangering themselves.
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Post by jib on Aug 24, 2022 8:17:27 GMT
mercian It's fortunate that every home is in walking distance of a local university and that there is no cost associated with living with parents. We are lucky to have you here with a solution for everything. There are ways of helping students though - by providing free tuition - and young workers as well by providing free bus passes to all under the age of 22.I am glad that Scotland has avoided the folly of the Clegg - Cameron decision to force debt on the young and able. It is a shame that finances are so constrained in Wales that the Senedd and Welsh Government cannot be as progressive. That 2010 coalition has left such a legacy of shame.
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Post by Danny on Aug 24, 2022 8:22:48 GMT
alec There are some here who dismiss the impact of the energy and inflation crisis and indeed Brexit because their personal wealth protects then from the impact. The I'm all right fuck everyone else attitude was always prevalent in right wing thinking but in today's Tory party it's replaced any concept of the basic principle of governance that is to act in the public's interest The conservative party has always represented the interests of the wealthy. It would be surprising if it changed now. The post war dash for socialism was purely a response to the centralised demands of war. Plus a surge in voter interest in a more equal society caused by their wartime experiences. It ended with Thatcher. Right now we are seeing a wave of strike calls backed by demands for wage rises equal to inflation. Brexit caused a drop in the value of the pound by some 20%, which inevitably equates with a drop in real national wealth. To prevent this falling on the mass of the population, wealth would have to be redistributed away from the wealthy. Con have spent the last 12 years doing the opposite. Recently all we are hearing is a rearguard action trying to prevent wage rises. I don't see any mechanism to redistribute wealth back to the poor except allowing these rises and then price inflation passing the cost on to the wealthy. It's brexit which caused this destruction of the UKS position. R4 this morning was discussing why investment in uk industry has largely halted. No one seemed able to draw the conclusion that since it began as brexit became a possibility, brexit is to blame. But this is heaped upon bad choice after bad choice mainly driven by conservative governments. boosting pay inequality. Failure to ensure essential services in water or energy. Refusal to fund health care adequately, or engage in the argument why it should be allowed to decline. Blinkered foreign policy aiding Russia.
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Post by domjg on Aug 24, 2022 8:25:38 GMT
There are ways of helping students though - by providing free tuition - and young workers as well by providing free bus passes to all under the age of 22. I am glad that Scotland has avoided the folly of the Clegg - Cameron decision to force debt on the young and able. It is a shame that finances are so constrained in Wales that the Senedd and Welsh Government cannot be as progressive. That 2010 coalition has left such a legacy of shame. "Clegg - Cameron", - of course, I'd forgotten that Clegg was Prime Minister and Cameron the junior coalition partner. Thanks for reminding me!.. "That 2010 coalition has left such a legacy of shame" Cameron gave you your blessed, illogical, destructive brexit didn't he? No-one else would have as they wouldn't have had such blind self belief. You should have a little altar to him.
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Post by wb61 on Aug 24, 2022 8:28:50 GMT
domjg"No-one else would have as they wouldn't have had such blind self belief." Have you not seen the current Parliamentary Conservative Party? Self belief is oozing out of virtually every one, it's only policy which is missing!!
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Post by jib on Aug 24, 2022 8:29:23 GMT
I am glad that Scotland has avoided the folly of the Clegg - Cameron decision to force debt on the young and able. It is a shame that finances are so constrained in Wales that the Senedd and Welsh Government cannot be as progressive. That 2010 coalition has left such a legacy of shame. "Clegg - Cameron", - of course, I'd forgotten that Clegg was Prime Minister and Cameron the junior coalition partner. Thanks for reminding me!.. "That 2010 coalition has left such a legacy of shame" Cameron gave you your blessed, illogical, destructive brexit didn't he? No-one else would have as they wouldn't have had such blind self belief. You should have a little altar to him. Clegg, Sir Ed Davey, Alexander, Laws. The Orange Book of shame of those that served in that Government and dismantled effective public services with glee and vigour. I will not forget. Most will not either.
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Post by Danny on Aug 24, 2022 8:30:21 GMT
interesting comment I found in yesterday's torygraph, er telegraph. "This is all ominously reminiscent of lockdown. As it turns out, even back then the NHS never came close to being overwhelmed "
Even the Telegraph is now conceding lockdown was never justified by NHS overload. Examples such as Hastings having covid with the outbreak ending naturally and unnoticed before it was even supposed to have arrived show the utter folly of what was done then.
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Post by hireton on Aug 24, 2022 9:02:56 GMT
I wonder how much lower the Tory leadership camapaign can sink:
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Post by crossbat11 on Aug 24, 2022 9:09:11 GMT
Every day's a learning day on UKPR2. I didn't know A/O levels were a thing either. I did British Constitution as a full A level in 1972. These are very hazy memories from 50 years ago and isa, who triggered my reverie on this with her own recollections on the subject may know more, but British Constitution was a subject I studied in my first year in the sixth form alongside my main A Level subjects of English Literature, English Language, History and General Studies. I'd taken all my O Levels the year before but I sat the exam in British Constitution before my A Levels and it carried a sort of hybrid qualification that fell between an A and O Level. I thought it was categorised as an A/O Level but I may be mistaken on that.
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Post by JohnC on Aug 24, 2022 9:21:43 GMT
The Alternative Ordinary Level was discontinued in the late 1980s.
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Post by domjg on Aug 24, 2022 9:23:17 GMT
domjg "No-one else would have as they wouldn't have had such blind self belief." Have you not seen the current Parliamentary Conservative Party? Self belief is oozing out of virtually every one, it's only policy which is missing!! true but at the time (2014 I think the ref was announced?) no-one but Cameron the gambler, fresh from his Scottish victory, would I think have had the reckless chutzpah to call an EU ref.
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Post by domjg on Aug 24, 2022 9:28:33 GMT
I didn't know A/O levels were a thing either. I did British Constitution as a full A level in 1972. These are very hazy memories from 50 years ago and isa, who triggered my reverie on this with her own recollections on the subject may know more, but British Constitution was a subject I studied in my first year in the sixth form alongside my main A Level subjects of English Literature, English Language, History and General Studies. I'd taken all my O Levels the year before but I sat the exam in British Constitution before my A Levels and it carried a sort of hybrid qualification that fell between an A and O Level. I thought it was categorised as an A/O Level but I may be mistaken on that. In my day for A levels (early nineties) we had something called AS levels which might have been analogous to an A/O level. No idea if they're still a thing. Ah 'General Studies', we still had that. I was never sure what it entailed exactly.
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Post by leftieliberal on Aug 24, 2022 9:31:43 GMT
Seems to be a campaign for a £15 an hour minimum wage - and therefore somewhat over-hyped. Especially as they seem to want it "at least by 2030". With inflation as it is, £10/hour now could easily be £15/hour by 2030.
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Post by domjg on Aug 24, 2022 9:34:40 GMT
"Clegg - Cameron", - of course, I'd forgotten that Clegg was Prime Minister and Cameron the junior coalition partner. Thanks for reminding me!.. "That 2010 coalition has left such a legacy of shame" Cameron gave you your blessed, illogical, destructive brexit didn't he? No-one else would have as they wouldn't have had such blind self belief. You should have a little altar to him. Clegg, Sir Ed Davey, Alexander, Laws. The Orange Book of shame of those that served in that Government and dismantled effective public services with glee and vigour. I will not forget. Most will not either. What I don't get is that you demonise the LibDems for co-operating with Tories who gave you what you wanted and who I've never heard you seriously criticise. "Most will not either" what on earth do you mean by that? Most jibs? Most voters? How can you know that? It's been a long time now. I'm happy to forget now that Clegg is happily lining his pockets courtesy of the sociopath Zuckerberg. Post Brexit it's a totally different party that will, I would wager, not work with the Tories again in any way for the next 100 years as they paid very dearly for it and are on completely opposite sides of the 'culture wars'.
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