|
|
Post by robert on Dec 9, 2021 23:17:16 GMT
Robert I see the link both in your original from you and in neilj's quote of it. Thanks. I wonder if it makes a difference what I view the site on. I'm on an iPad using Safari. I see neilj has posted again with a link in (I guess as it's just a big blank space) Just have to live with it as clearly others can see them. Something peculiar to Twitter links? |
|
|
|
Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Dec 9, 2021 23:20:13 GMT
Interesting take. colin used to claim Johnson would be transformational can’t say I recall that. I thought Colin saw an electoral appeal, but had misgivings as to the actualité. |
|
|
|
Post by robert on Dec 9, 2021 23:25:19 GMT
Didn't your post include a link, from the wording I'm guessing it might have, in which case I'm not seeing it. I'm not seeing links posted by Neilj either, I don't think. But I do see links posted by others. Anyone else having a similar problem? Hi Robert, I was having the same problem, so I've done a bit of playing. Have you got an Ad-blocker or VPN? If so, try turning it off. I had a VPN running and couldn't see any of the tweets or images when it was on, When I turned it off and refreshed the page they all appeared. The browser doesn't seem to make a difference. If you don't want to run without a VPN you can see the links by clicking the quote button and going to the BBCode tab. In there is the URL of the link. EDIT. I turned off the Ad-blocker part of the VPN and restarted it, now I can have the VPN on and see the 'missing' links. Thanks Alberto. No, I haven't installed any additional software of that nature. I am currently using my old iPad (2014 vintage) as annoyingly I left my newish one at my daughters last weekend. I will get it back next week when I see her again and I'll report if it's sorted it. Potentially it could be because I'm using an old version of safari as this iPad can't run the most recent version. |
|
Danny
Member
Posts: 10,457
|
Post by Danny on Dec 9, 2021 23:35:47 GMT
If, and I suspect it's a big 'IF', such a cunning scheme is happening then it's a big risk if it all goes wrong. No it really isnt. Con learnt how well being government and opposition worked for them over brexit. Being both government proposing restriction on the independent advice of sage, and also as con back benchers opposing those restrictions, leaves them as having followed medical advice but also as being the only people opposing it. How can you lose whoever is right? If the restrictions are seen as helpful its a draw, but it was the government did the deed. If they prove a mistake then only con oposed.
Who is going to be happy their christmas was cancelled so some exta grannies could die from delta? The downing street party affair is at heart about the nation being made to give up things unfairly, and this would be the same sort of sentiment. Laour are indly ushing hard for even ore restrictions clearly marking their territory, but that won't trump con having written them.
Indeed no. But the con position is safe for both outcomes, while lab is only safe for one.Thats how you win eventually. |
|
eor
Member
Posts: 1,845
Member is Online
|
Post by eor on Dec 9, 2021 23:57:04 GMT
shevii Yes I agree that it makes no difference to the perception of (and damage caused by) the events themselves. I do think it complicates the very simplistic idea being advocated by some others that someone (be it the Cabinet Secretary, the PM or someone else) could simply compile a list of everyone who attended and require them to resign / dismiss them. @danny No idea why you're finding the Stratton thing so convoluted. She recklessly allowed herself to be recorded saying things that were incredibly embarrassing to her employer and the recording leaked. I don't think it needs any more explanation than that!
|
|
Danny
Member
Posts: 10,457
|
Post by Danny on Dec 10, 2021 0:09:08 GMT
@danny No idea why you're finding the Stratton thing so convoluted. She recklessly allowed herself to be recorded saying things that were incredibly embarrassing to her employer and the recording leaked. I don't think it needs any more explanation than that! I dont know about convoluted, its quite straightforward. She is being fired for being honest. Others are keeping their jobs by not telling the truth. Peston said she really wanted to do good in politics. So this might have been rather a hard lesson. |
|
neilj
Member
Posts: 6,457
|
Post by neilj on Dec 10, 2021 7:39:48 GMT
Just in case people are not aware there is new thread
|
|
|
|
Post by pete on Dec 10, 2021 9:45:23 GMT
RE: Starmers lack of public appearances - I wonder if it’s a deliberate ploy. When Corbyn was leader, he drew attention to himself and his views which (for some) also had a negative effect on peoples perception of the party overall. By allowing others (Rayner, Streeting, Bryant, soon Cooper I imagine) to do the talking pieces to express labour as a party of competent people, rather than continue the leadership cult style that surrounded Corbyn? Effectively, is he keeping his hands clean to maintain his presentation of lawyerly competence and to give other labour members room to develop their public profile so as not to get dragged into a leader focussed adversarial contest? The problem for Starmer is that 'lawyerly competence' doesn't win votes. Voters like someone with charisma, even if he has the IQ of a gorilla. Possibly. But then people might also get fed up of the childish clown act and want a serious grown up in charge. |
|
|
|
Post by turk on Dec 10, 2021 13:21:21 GMT
Alec
Sometimes you do talk the most utter tosh.
|
|
|
|
Post by tancred on Dec 12, 2021 11:27:18 GMT
The problem for Starmer is that 'lawyerly competence' doesn't win votes. Voters like someone with charisma, even if he has the IQ of a gorilla. Possibly. But then people might also get fed up of the childish clown act and want a serious grown up in charge. Hopefully they will, time will tell. But there are also Tory supporters who would vote Conservative even if a chocolate teapot was party leader. |
|
