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Post by graham on Dec 30, 2021 12:09:41 GMT
That is a 'non sequitur' because I take the view that Johnson's personal baggage DOES disqualify him from being PM. The same would apply to any other male. Personally I would not vote for any candidate at Parliamentary or Local Elections who I knew to be an adulterer or adultress. I take a similar view re -cohabitation, and always remember the stunned look of disbelief from the local Labour candidate canvassing for the local elections - circa 1996- when I informed him that I felt unable to support a candidate who openly 'lived in sin.' How very Victorian of you! With respect - circa 1970 I suspect my views would have been seen as pretty mainstream.
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Post by lululemonmustdobetter on Dec 30, 2021 12:13:47 GMT
It's better to do your own research on first principles. It's not difficult. Hi Hierton - sorry but isn't the whole point that the UK does not have a written constitution? So to be fair you should direct him to the relevant parts of a couple of centuries of legislation/precedent/court rulings etc. Oh drats, sorry Steve forgot about the weather in the PSRL today. It’s overcast and grey apart from St Reatham where the sun is always shinning.
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Dec 30, 2021 12:15:46 GMT
There is no Streetview around Charleston, presumably because the lane off the A27 is private land. However you can see the start of the lane from the A27 view. Interestingly, depending on which side of the junction you select, you get a view taken in September 2021 or April 2021. The difference is signage is noticeable, but also the April scene shows a dump truck and various road mending paraphernalia, which suggests the work was done right from the A27 to at least Charleston itself, a distance of 0.4 miles (Google Maps). I don't know if the work extended a further 0.1m up the lane to Tilton House, a retreat. However the lane then links up with a whole network of private farm roads, presumably of the Gage estate and through them does connect through to Firle Place.
So I would suggest that whilst the lane is access to Charleston, it is actually an access route within the Gage Estate and I doubt if the lane itself is actually owned by the Charleston Trust, but is an estate road. From the aerial view there is what could be the buildings of a dairy farm right next to Charlestoun but there's no other development in the vicinity that could be termed a 'dairy farm'. I guess that dairy tankers and farm estate traffic can knacker a road surface, but visitors to Charlestoun in private cars on their own would cause little damage. Though there's probably the odd coach trip too. So the lane probably needed work, which the Estate and the Trust would normally fund and the sums each paid would presumably be the subject of negotiation. Government funding would be like manna from heaven for both parties in this situation. However to suggest that the Estate didn't benefit is a bit disingenuous. One also wonders which party spotted the opportunity? An enterprising land agent watching out to reduce his lordship's maintenance bill, suggesting the trust make the application as a smokescreen, isn't beyond imagination.
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Post by jib on Dec 30, 2021 12:21:41 GMT
The drivegate scandal isn't going to go down with rural towns and villages who struggle with decrepit roads full of potholes and for which funds for remediation are so scarce.
Strongly adds to the money for pal$ ethos of this Government.
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Post by Old Southendian on Dec 30, 2021 12:24:04 GMT
There is no Streetview around Charleston, presumably because the lane off the A27 is private land. However you can see the start of the lane from the A27 view. Interestingly, depending on which side of the junction you select, you get a view taken in September 2021 or April 2021. The difference is signage is noticeable, but also the April scene shows a dump truck and various road mending paraphernalia, which suggests the work was done right from the A27 to at least Charleston itself, a distance of 0.4 miles (Google Maps). I don't know if the work extended a further 0.1m up the lane to Tilton House, a retreat. However the lane then links up with a whole network of private farm roads, presumably of the Gage estate and through them does connect through to Firle Place. So I would suggest that whilst the lane is access to Charleston, it is actually an access route within the Gage Estate and I doubt if the lane itself is actually owned by the Charleston Trust, but is an estate road. From the aerial view there is what could be the buildings of a dairy farm right next to Charlestoun but there's no other development in the vicinity that could be termed a 'dairy farm'. I guess that dairy tankers and farm estate traffic can knacker a road surface, but visitors to Charlestoun in private cars on their own would cause little damage. Though there's probably the odd coach trip too. So the lane probably needed work, which the Estate and the Trust would normally fund and the sums each paid would presumably be the subject of negotiation. Government funding would be like manna from heaven for both parties in this situation. However to suggest that the Estate didn't benefit is a bit disingenuous. One also wonders which party spotted the opportunity? An enterprising land agent watching out to reduce his lordship's maintenance bill, suggesting the trust make the application as a smokescreen, isn't beyond imagination. I think some people may be overthinking this one! Does it really have cut-through? I could be wrong, but to me it doesn't seem the sort of thing that's going to change many people's opinions. Pictures of parties and people laughing about parties did seem to make a difference, and I can see why. I know pot-holes annoy people, but even so...
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Dec 30, 2021 12:31:03 GMT
There is no Streetview around Charleston, presumably because the lane off the A27 is private land. However you can see the start of the lane from the A27 view. Interestingly, depending on which side of the junction you select, you get a view taken in September 2021 or April 2021. The difference is signage is noticeable, but also the April scene shows a dump truck and various road mending paraphernalia, which suggests the work was done right from the A27 to at least Charleston itself, a distance of 0.4 miles (Google Maps). I don't know if the work extended a further 0.1m up the lane to Tilton House, a retreat. However the lane then links up with a whole network of private farm roads, presumably of the Gage estate and through them does connect through to Firle Place. So I would suggest that whilst the lane is access to Charleston, it is actually an access route within the Gage Estate and I doubt if the lane itself is actually owned by the Charleston Trust, but is an estate road. From the aerial view there is what could be the buildings of a dairy farm right next to Charlestoun but there's no other development in the vicinity that could be termed a 'dairy farm'. I guess that dairy tankers and farm estate traffic can knacker a road surface, but visitors to Charlestoun in private cars on their own would cause little damage. Though there's probably the odd coach trip too. So the lane probably needed work, which the Estate and the Trust would normally fund and the sums each paid would presumably be the subject of negotiation. Government funding would be like manna from heaven for both parties in this situation. However to suggest that the Estate didn't benefit is a bit disingenuous. One also wonders which party spotted the opportunity? An enterprising land agent watching out to reduce his lordship's maintenance bill, suggesting the trust make the application as a smokescreen, isn't beyond imagination. I think some people may be overthinking this one! Does it really have cut-through? I could be wrong, but to me it doesn't seem the sort of thing that's going to change many people's opinions. Pictures of parties and people laughing about parties did seem to make a difference, and I can see why. I know pot-holes annoy people, but even so... It doesn't look like or smell like a duck pond, but it does sound like one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2021 12:33:33 GMT
How very Victorian of you! With respect - circa 1970 I suspect my views would have been seen as pretty mainstream. Something to be proud of, eh? Do your views on race and sexuality belong to the 70s mainstream too?
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Post by graham on Dec 30, 2021 12:45:55 GMT
With respect - circa 1970 I suspect my views would have been seen as pretty mainstream. Something to be proud of, eh? Do your views on race and sexuality belong to the 70s mainstream too? No - but I have never been a fan of 'the permissive society'. My nonconformist background makes me socially pretty conservative on certain issues - though I have never voted Tory and very unlikely to do so.
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Post by neilj on Dec 30, 2021 13:14:09 GMT
There is no Streetview around Charleston, presumably because the lane off the A27 is private land. However you can see the start of the lane from the A27 view. Interestingly, depending on which side of the junction you select, you get a view taken in September 2021 or April 2021. The difference is signage is noticeable, but also the April scene shows a dump truck and various road mending paraphernalia, which suggests the work was done right from the A27 to at least Charleston itself, a distance of 0.4 miles (Google Maps). I don't know if the work extended a further 0.1m up the lane to Tilton House, a retreat. However the lane then links up with a whole network of private farm roads, presumably of the Gage estate and through them does connect through to Firle Place. So I would suggest that whilst the lane is access to Charleston, it is actually an access route within the Gage Estate and I doubt if the lane itself is actually owned by the Charleston Trust, but is an estate road. From the aerial view there is what could be the buildings of a dairy farm right next to Charlestoun but there's no other development in the vicinity that could be termed a 'dairy farm'. I guess that dairy tankers and farm estate traffic can knacker a road surface, but visitors to Charlestoun in private cars on their own would cause little damage. Though there's probably the odd coach trip too. So the lane probably needed work, which the Estate and the Trust would normally fund and the sums each paid would presumably be the subject of negotiation. Government funding would be like manna from heaven for both parties in this situation. However to suggest that the Estate didn't benefit is a bit disingenuous. One also wonders which party spotted the opportunity? An enterprising land agent watching out to reduce his lordship's maintenance bill, suggesting the trust make the application as a smokescreen, isn't beyond imagination. I think some people may be overthinking this one! Does it really have cut-through? I could be wrong, but to me it doesn't seem the sort of thing that's going to change many people's opinions. Pictures of parties and people laughing about parties did seem to make a difference, and I can see why. I know pot-holes annoy people, but even so... On it's own it would not make a difference, but it provides the continuing narrative of apparent sleaze and the drip drip of that perception can have cut through. The Daily Mail is not my paper of choice, but they went big on this, along with other papers. When people are struggling, seeing NIC rising together with price rises, they do not like to see things like this. Technically the Government may be able to justify giving the money, but for many it does not smell right in the context of levelling up. Perception is everything
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Post by Danny on Dec 30, 2021 13:28:47 GMT
Zoe report for today shows new cases falling in London so R now 1.1 (measured over last fortnight).
By age group for all UK, below 50 cases starting to slow. Above 50 continue to increase, but we would expect a lag before any fall in lower age groups feeds through.
Unfortunately there isnt age group info for london alone, which might tell a different picture how things are happening there. Its possible a fall amongst older groups could already be happening there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2021 14:08:28 GMT
I would like to know how The Charleston Trust obtained a grant for an access road to their site across the Firle Place Estate because :-
Charleston is open Wed to Sun-closed Mon/Tues.
Firle Place is open Sun to Tuesday-closed Wed/Sat and is closed part year September to May I think.
So why would anyone pay to get to Charleston by paying also to drive from Firle Place -solely on a Sunday for 4 or five months of the year-when you can just drive straight to Charleston ?
......and currently entrance to Charleston is by pre booked hourly slots.
This road is for use within the Gage Estate-it is of no relevance to visitors to Charleston .
caveats-I have looked for the usual entry arrangements before 2020 and the Pandemic controls were imposed.
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Post by crossbat11 on Dec 30, 2021 14:19:10 GMT
I think some people may be overthinking this one! Does it really have cut-through? I could be wrong, but to me it doesn't seem the sort of thing that's going to change many people's opinions. Pictures of parties and people laughing about parties did seem to make a difference, and I can see why. I know pot-holes annoy people, but even so... On it's own it would not make a difference, but it provides the continuing narrative of apparent sleaze and the drip drip of that perception can have cut through. The Daily Mail is not my paper of choice, but they went big on this, along with other papers. When people are struggling, seeing NIC rising together with price rises, they do not like to see things like this. Technically the Government may be able to justify giving the money, but for many it does not smell right in the context of levelling up. Perception is everything I think the marketing-speak for what you're describing is "mood music". A sort of negative media drumbeat that plays incessantly, almost magnetically drawing in bad news stories, one after the other. The effect is hypnotic in time with people becoming more ill-disposed to the government and readier to believe the worst. The music is the key, not the individual notes. Easier for a Tory government to change the music, such is the far more friendly media eco-system they inhabit, and most papers and news organisations will be keen to resume the normal cheer leading and sycophancy (Gorgeous Rishi and Liz Maggie Truss ride to the rescue) but the current mood music is of a hapless and accident prone government lurching from one pratfall to the other. Voters currently tuning into this music for now. It's catchy and climbing the charts.
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Post by steve on Dec 30, 2021 14:49:51 GMT
In today's who could have expected it news.
Spaffer's announcement of a vast increase in the requirements to undertake lateral flow tests with no idea if there was capacity to provide the extra tests had the absolutely inevitable result of a shortage of lateral flow tests,including where there use is necessary to test emergency service staff.
The anti Vax nutters have strong competition for moron of the week after all
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Post by Danny on Dec 30, 2021 14:57:27 GMT
And I see government case figures for London are also looking rather flat over the last half of december.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2021 15:12:31 GMT
Colin - no wish to start a prolonged exchange on deficits etc but would suggest that as long as interest payments are rising less than inflation there is not a real problem. Indeed the principals are falling in real terms as well. Growth maintaining at 1.5% which might be a reasonable trend figure in the 2020-50 period for developed economies will take care of the extra burden. Not sure that,s right Jim Jam. In their Fiscal Risks Report ( July 2021) OBR look at current debt levels and the exposure to higher interest rates-and inflation. I quote from "Conclusions " -p185 of their examination on inflation effects :- "Both scenarios suggest that inflation is not a very effective way to reduce the debt-to-GDP ratio in the current circumstances. A temporary burst of inflation has only a modest impact on the debt-to-GDP ratio, which is mostly achieved through a temporary squeeze on real spending. A persistent increase in inflation leads to a medium-term improvement in the debt position as inflation erodes the real value of the nominal debt in issue. But the impact is muted by the share of index-linked debt (23 per cent of gilts in 2020-21, up from 14 per cent in 1989-90) and the shortening of the effective maturity of debt due in part to quantitative easing. In the long run, there is actually a rise in the debt-to-GDP ratio due to the assumption of a higher inflation risk premium on gilts, which pushes interest payments from 1 to over 4 per cent of GDP, up to a level not seen since 1947-48." The effect of UK Government Index Linked Debt is also dealt with by IFS in their 2021 " Green Budget". I quote from it at " Outlook for Public Finances-Key Findings 6" -p 119 :- "6 Interest rates on government bonds have risen this year, with yields on 30-year bonds averaging 1.13% in September 2021 having averaged just 0.86% in January 2021. Alongside this, RPI inflation – which feeds directly into interest payments on index-linked debt – has risen from just 1.4% in the year to January 2021 to 4.8% in the year to August 2021. This has pushed up debt interest spending such that we expect it will be around £15 billion a year higher than forecast in March." That figure of £15bn pa exceeds the upcoming NI increase proceeds......and it is based on RPI at end August -4.8%. ONS' "Consumer Price Inflation " report for November shows RPI at end November as 7.1%. Inflation is currently expected to continue to rise until next spring at least. If you go back to "normal times" ( remember them ?) -before the pandemic, and the credit crash and subsequent recession-ie to 2006-Government Debt was 40% X GDP. In the following five years it doubled. Post pandemic its 100% ish of GDP. So any Interest rate hike ( including, as explained above ,inflationary indexing ) effects on State Spending are 250% higher than they were then. And the era of Central Bank created ultra low interest rates which have supported the economies of those 15 years is ending.
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Dec 30, 2021 15:19:29 GMT
I would like to know how The Charleston Trust obtained a grant for an access road to their site across the Firle Place Estate because :- Charleston is open Wed to Sun-closed Mon/Tues. Firle Place is open Sun to Tuesday-closed Wed/Sat and is closed part year September to May I think. So why would anyone pay to get to Charleston by paying also to drive from Firle Place -solely on a Sunday for 4 or five months of the year-when you can just drive straight to Charleston ? ......and currently entrance to Charleston is by pre booked hourly slots. This road is for use within the Gage Estate-it is of no relevance to visitors to Charleston . caveats-I have looked for the usual entry arrangements before 2020 and the Pandemic controls were imposed. The lane in question runs from the A27 to Charleston (0.4 miles) and then onwards as part of a network giving access to agricultural land and the occasional building which is all estate land. Ultimately it connects to other private lanes that reach Firle Place. It's not clear how much of the lane was resurfaced and paid for by the grant but it might have been just from the A27 to Charleston and the dairy farm next door. The land the lane runs through is estate land and is direct access to Charleston. As I posted earlier, farm traffic and milk tankers had probably messed up the surface and made it uncomfortable for visitors to Charleston. So it was in both the estate's and Charleston's interests to have it resurfaced. How much each would have paid, or, indeed whether they'd have bothered to have it done without government money is difficult to know.
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Post by turk on Dec 30, 2021 15:21:22 GMT
Steve
Seems your equating lack of test kits with being a moron for fairness you should include Sturgeon,Drakeford our President Biden all the prime ministers and Presidents of the EU and just about every other Leader everywhere all who are struggling to have enough test kits over the Christmas holiday period.
Of course as usual the U.K. is leading they way in tackling the pandemic by delivering more test kits than most if not all compatible sized countries at nearly 900,000 test kits per day but hey why let that get in the way of your usual “”spaffer” ranting.
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Post by Danny on Dec 30, 2021 15:41:07 GMT
I know I'm aged but when did nightclubs become such a major governmental concern? Back in the days when I might've had even a vague interest in such things they were basically the hang outs for ne'er do wells and places for most folk to steer well clear of. It seems that suddenly they're a major industry worth cossetting and risking folks life over. Well thats a good point. I am reminded of Andrew Marr's history of modern Britain, where I think he made the point that the swinging sixties were famous, but in reality most people werent swinging.
Are nightclubs in reality making a blind bit of difference to overall numbers?
I remember at the start SAGE prepard a list of possible measures to reduce spread but explained they were very unsure exactly how well they might work.
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Post by Danny on Dec 30, 2021 15:42:07 GMT
Steve Seems your equating lack of test kits with being a moron for fairness you should include Sturgeon,Drakeford our President Biden all the prime ministers and Presidents of the EU and just about every other Leader everywhere all who are struggling to have enough test kits over the Christmas holiday period. South Africa has ended general testing.
While it pales into insignificance with overall costs, do you not realise what a vast waste of money general testing has been?
At the end of all this China may expect to have significantly increased its world power. (we buy their tests along wih everything else, and they are not bankrupting their own industries by refusing to allow them cheap fossil energy)
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Post by jimjam on Dec 30, 2021 15:52:08 GMT
Noted Colin,
I don't believe that negates the Keynsian approach though for the next few years.
Not sure if calculable but the incremental increased annual interest burden v incremental growth is the metric that should drive decisions imo.
Accepting the constraint of being able to continue to, in effect, re-finance of course.
It is regrettable that QE has seemingly been a device not only to support asset values but actually increase them.
Stabilising banking to enable business to continue was necessary but it went way beyond that.
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Post by crossbat11 on Dec 30, 2021 15:55:17 GMT
Steve Seems your equating lack of test kits with being a moron for fairness you should include Sturgeon,Drakeford our President Biden all the prime ministers and Presidents of the EU and just about every other Leader everywhere all who are struggling to have enough test kits over the Christmas holiday period. Of course as usual the U.K. is leading they way in tackling the pandemic by delivering more test kits than most if not all compatible sized countries at nearly 900,000 test kits per day but hey why let that get in the way of your usual “”spaffer” ranting. Of course, as you know, I always look forward to your periodic Letters from America but I think I'm going to have to disappoint by saying that I'm awaiting the findings of the promised forthcoming independent Inquiry before I conclude where "we've led the world" in our handling of the pandemic and where, how shall we say, we might have brought up the rear. I'm not belittling your insights on these matters, and I know you get regular updates from Old Blighty via various independent sources, ranging from Bexley Tory Association to Ruislip Tory Association, but I'm sticking with the Inquiry for now if you don't mind. As a matter of interest, what's your first year report on how Biden and Harris are doing? As a Democrat supporter/voter living in the US, I'm genuinely intrigued to hear your man on the spot view about how it's all going.
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Post by alec on Dec 30, 2021 16:00:29 GMT
@danny - "Was that after I mentioned it yesterday, or do you watch the john Campbell daily utube updates where he mentioned it yesterday?"
No. I rarely ever read your covid posts because they are almost certainly always totally wrong. I also don't follow Campbell.
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Post by alec on Dec 30, 2021 16:05:32 GMT
turk - "Seems your equating lack of test kits with being a moron for fairness you should include Sturgeon,Drakeford our President Biden all the prime ministers and Presidents of the EU and just about every other Leader everywhere all who are struggling to have enough test kits over the Christmas holiday period." It is valid to flag up a global issue of test shortages, but there do seem to be some specific distributional issues present in the UK. However, a more fundamental point is that the shortage, whatever the cause, is more problematic for the UK, as most other countries are not relying on testing as the main weapon against Omicron, as they have initiated other control measures. Of course, I should here say 'England' rather than the UK
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Post by davwel on Dec 30, 2021 16:18:15 GMT
Attention on the bad Covid news is being diverted by the Maxwell verdict and Drivegate around Firle Place, perhaps intentionally.
But 131 more people are in Scotland hospitals today, 679 was the total yesterday cf. 810 today, and 16857 new cases, which isn`t good.
And Messenger has told us this afternoon of 4 near neighbours infected, while grandaughter reports that she and her doctor boyfriend have both caught it and are moderately unwell. So that`s 2 fewer working in the Glasgow hospitals for a while.
Like Colin, I can`t imagine why estate roads in East Sussex should qualify for resurfacing when 50% plus of the lanes I have driven this month in Aberdeenshire are riddled with bad potholes.
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Dec 30, 2021 16:19:29 GMT
Steve Seems your equating lack of test kits with being a moron for fairness you should include Sturgeon,Drakeford our President Biden all the prime ministers and Presidents of the EU and just about every other Leader everywhere all who are struggling to have enough test kits over the Christmas holiday period. Of course as usual the U.K. is leading they way in tackling the pandemic by delivering more test kits than most if not all compatible sized countries at nearly 900,000 test kits per day but hey why let that get in the way of your usual “”spaffer” ranting. Of course, as you know, I always look forward to your periodic Letters from America but I think I'm going to have to disappoint by saying that I'm awaiting the findings of the promised forthcoming independent Inquiry before I conclude where "we've led the world" in our handling of the pandemic and where, how shall we say, we might have brought up the rear. I'm not belittling your insights on these matters, and I know you get regular updates from Old Blighty via various independent sources, ranging from Bexley Tory Association to Ruislip Tory Association, but I'm sticking with the Inquiry for now if you don't mind. As a matter of interest, what's your first year report on how Biden and Harris are doing? As a Democrat supporter/voter living in the US, I'm genuinely intrigued to hear your man on the spot view about how it's all going. Now I'll have you know that my old dad was a paid up member of Ruislip Northwood Conservative Association and I recall that when I was a youngster there was always an issue of 'The Clarion' hanging about the family home. That was in the days of, as Mr Spike Milligna would say 'that well known spelling mistake', Mr Petre Crowder was our MP. He was, of course Eton educated, as was his successor John Wilkinson. Us plebs from Manor Country Secondary Modern knew how to knuckle a forelock back then.
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Post by hireton on Dec 30, 2021 16:21:12 GMT
Nearly 17,000 new infections in Scotland today and hospitalisations up nearly 20% in one day as well (although thankfully so far this is not feeding through to higher numbers in ICUs).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2021 16:26:50 GMT
You should know by now that Alec doesn't do good news. He's a Four Horsemen supporter. Its Three Horseman-Alec said one died. But even a dead horseman (eg the Br-Apocalypse) can still get kicked. Did he ever reply to bantams WRT to the 'doormat' Truss comment with a source? A great feature of UKPR2 is to be able to hide/block the daily diatribes of defeatist drivel from Planet ALECS and given the lack of comment on Covid on that issue specific thread then perhaps Covid-geddon is a 2nd dead horseman? Maybe even DANNY (another person whose nonsense I hide/block) has given up his anti-vaxx nonsense and finally accepted reality and even got himself jabbed? I'm occasionally tempted to unhide some comments and see if some fanatics have 'moved on' but a temptation I have regretted on the few occasions I have.
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Post by crossbat11 on Dec 30, 2021 16:41:04 GMT
Its Three Horseman-Alec said one died. But even a dead horseman (eg the Br-Apocalypse) can still get kicked. Did he ever reply to bantams WRT to the 'doormat' Truss comment with a source? A great feature of UKPR2 is to be able to hide/block the daily diatribes of defeatist drivel from Planet ALECS and given the lack of comment on Covid on that issue specific thread then perhaps Covid-geddon is a 2nd dead horseman? Maybe even DANNY (another person whose nonsense I hide/block) has given up his anti-vaxx nonsense and finally accepted reality and even got himself jabbed? I'm occasionally tempted to unhide some comments and see if some fanatics have 'moved on' but a temptation I have regretted on the few occasions I have. Trevor - where's this hide/block feature and how do you activate it? Trevor? Trevor? Treeevvvveer? Are you there? Can you read this? I think he's blocked me, the swine.
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Post by steve on Dec 30, 2021 16:43:42 GMT
Tw On the off chance you haven't blocked My posts as well I do think it a little odd that you feel the need to comment on posts you haven't seen!
Turk As far as I am aware no other national leader felt the need to announce a massive increase in the requirement to take lateral flow tests without reference to the ability to provide them.
Perhaps your in depth knowledge from the Texas ex pat Tory farmers association provides some special insight.
Or perhaps it's just your standard hagiography of all things Tory instead.
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Post by alec on Dec 30, 2021 16:53:27 GMT
Will be interesting to watch for any media reaction to the hospital data when the Christmas figures on the dashboard are finally brought up to date. There was a flurry of excitement yesterday with the '900 increase in beds occupied in 24hrs' story, even though it was the third day above 900. Currently the dashboard says around 1200 admissions, but that was the total from the 21st. England alone topped 1750 on the latest data up to the 27th, so there may be some poor reporting when the mainstream media catches up with the data.
Some good news though, from the covid actuaries group on twitter. They have calculated that the current admissions are running ahead of the central SPI-M-O modelling. Rather rebuts those like the Spectator suggesting the modellers were always too gloomy. However, the positive news is that mechanical ventilation beds are only up by 3% on the week and the proportion of covid patients needing ventilation is the lowest it has been. This may change shortly, as case numbers are now rising more rapidly in older age groups, but it is a sign that vaccines, previous immunity and possibly a less servere variant are mitigating the worst impacts.
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