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Post by James E on Dec 6, 2022 18:35:21 GMT
With the latest Deltapoll released today, I thought I'd check their recent tables to see how their figures compare to YouGov's, and what trends they have in common (or don't).
One clear and longstanding difference is that while YouGov have higher Lab leads with ABC1s than C2DEs, the opposite holds with Delta. Averages from the last 4 polls for each are:
YouGov ABC1s 26% Lab lead (Con led by 10% at GE2019)
YouGov C2DEs 19% Lab lead (Con led by 15% at GE2019)
(in the context of polls averaging 23% Lab lead)
Delta ABC1s 13% Lab Lead
Delta C2DEs 34% Lab lead
(in context of polls averaging 22% Lab lead).
It may be that there is some difference between how different pollsters define social class. There is also some difference in the GE2019 Election alanysis between YouGov and Ipsos Mori, with YouGov having the Tories doing very much better with DE voters. But even allowing for this, it looks to me like YouGov are showing a slightly higher swing with ABC1s than C2DEs, whereas Delta's tables suggest a much higher swing with C2DEs.
Then there's the question of 2016 Leave voters. I mentioned a few days ago that YouGov show a far higher swing with Leavers than Remainers: however, they still show the Tories 15 points ahead with 2016 Leavers (compared to 60% at GE2019 per their own analysis). Deltapoll's last 6 polls show an average of just a 4% Con lead with 2016 Leave voters. This seems barely credible in comparison with GE2019 analysis, which showed the Tories leading Labour among Leave voters by 74/14 (YouGov) or 73/15 (Ipsos Mori). While I don't think anyone would believe the 27-28% swing that Delta's figures imply, this does at least point in the same direction as YouGov.
And thirdly, a quick check of their regional swings shows that Delta have an 'overswing' of 3-4% in the South of England (compared to their GB swing). This is very close to YouGov's and R&W's figures.
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Post by James E on Dec 5, 2022 12:20:23 GMT
For those with an interest in Totnes (and thanks for the comments from Patrickbrian and Mandolinist) - you may not be aware that it is among the 42 constituencies included in R&W's so-called 'Blue Wall' polls. These are 42 seats in the South of England with at least 25% graduates, and above 42.5 Remain vote. 26 of them had the LDs in 2nd place in 2019, and 16 Labour. So this covers most of the LD target seats across the South of England. The most recent poll on 21-22 Nov showed: Lab 41% (+20) Con 30% (-20) LD 21% (-6) Gren 4% (+3) Ref 3% (Changes from GE2019) redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-blue-wall-voting-intention-21-22-november-2022/In most respects, this is right in line with GB polling as a whole: the Tories are down by 40% of their 2019 share, and the LDs are down by around a quarter on theirs, with Labour the beneficiaries. The swing is 3 points higher than for R&W's GB polling, but that is consistent with a higher swing where Labour are attacking. And it's worth noting that R&W's previous poll (14 Nov) of the same constituencies was a little better for the LDs and Tories (Lab 38, Con 32, LD 23). The list of constituencies covered includes several where the LDs are a close second where they can win by just standing still (e..g. South Cambridgeshire in 2019 was Con 46, LD42, Lab 14) , but it looks to me like the potential 3-way contests such as Woking, Wantage and Totnes, plus those in London, will elude them. List of Constituencies Bournemouth East Chelsea and Fulham Cheltenham Chingford and Woodford Green Chippenham Chipping Barnet Cities Of London and Westminster Colchester Esher and Walton Filton and Bradley Stoke Finchley and Golders Green Guildford Harrow East Hendon Henley Hitchin and Harpenden Lewes Milton Keynes North Milton Keynes South Mole Valley Reading West Romsey and Southampton North South Cambridgeshire South East Cambridgeshire South West Surrey St Ives Sutton and Cheam Taunton Deane Thornbury and Yate Totnes Truro and Falmouth Tunbridge Wells Uxbridge and South Ruislip Wantage Watford Wells West Dorset Wimbledon Winchester Woking Wokingham Wycombe |
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Post by James E on Dec 5, 2022 11:17:02 GMT
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Post by James E on Dec 4, 2022 21:27:33 GMT
That YouGov England & Wales regional analysis I promised: this is from the sub-samples of the 5 most recent YouGovs, and is in the context of a GB swing of 18% Con>Lab
London 13% C>L
Rest Of South 22% C>L
Midlands+Wales 19% C>L
North 16% C>L
Given that today's YG poll for Wales was around a 15% C>L swing, and all their previous Welsh polling has pointed to a somewhat lower comparative swing in Wales, I would say that conversely this shows around a 20% for the English Midlands. So, the pattern remains that Labour are getting an 'overswing' in the South and the Midlands, a slight underswing in the North of England, and lower swings in Wales, London, and of course Scotland (for which there is much better data available).
The most interesting thing that I've gleaned from these 5 recent YouGovs is actually not regional, but the different movement with 2016 Leave and Remain voters. Using YouGov's own analysis of the 2016 referendum, and comparing to their recent polls, Labour lead by 60/13 with Remain voters (49/19 at GE2019), and trail 43/28 with Leavers (74/14 at GE2019). So the comparative swings are 9% for Remainers and 22% for Leavers.
It may seem counterintuitive to expect larger Con>Lab swings in Leave-voting constituencies, and in the South and Midlands of England, but that is what YouGov's cross-breaks suggest. The one caveat I'd put to this is that only a very small share (11-12% of the current LabVI) think Brexit was the 'Right' choice : no more than half of those who voted Leave and now back Labour also think that Brexit was the right choice. So perhaps the ideal Labour target is now a Southern, disillusioned Leave-voting place...
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Post by James E on Dec 4, 2022 19:22:36 GMT
Re the "Red South West".
This has been rather a theme of mine since I noted what looked like a freak R&W cross-break showing Labour 18 points ahead of the Conservatives. This was in September, and on checking I found that this was the 8th of 10 R&W polls from Aug-Sept showing Labour ahead in the SW - which was Con 53%, Lab 23% at GE2019.
Since then we've had 18 more R&W polls. Every single one of them shows a Labour lead in SW England, and generally a large one. The most recent 8 (from late Oct onwards) show an average Lab lead of 18%. The comparative Con> Lab swings from these polls are 17% for GB as a whole and 24% for SW England.
And I don't accept the idea that Labour can't do much better than at GE2017 in the South West. It's a fair point that their GB share may well be perhaps 2-5 points up on the 40% they achieved then, but this is likely to come with big regional differences.
To take that R&W 8 poll average. These are the figures, with comparison to the results for SW England at GE2017:
Lab 45% (+16)
Con 27% (-24)
LD 17% (+2)
So if these figures are right (and they are of course just aggregated sub-samples) that's a 20% swing in comparison to the 2017 result. And it isn't just R&W that shows this. YouGov's South England sub-samples are typically showing a swing 5% higher in the combined South of England than for GB as a whole - and also an 18% swing in the South compared to the 2017 result.
Incidentally, it's been a while since I've looked at all of YouGov's figures regionally, and it may be a good time to do this with today's poll of Wales, which helps to disentange their 'Midlands + Wales' figures for GB polls.
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Post by James E on Dec 4, 2022 18:08:29 GMT
Welsh Westminster voting intention: LAB: 51% (+5) CON: 18% (-5) PC: 13% (-2) REF: 8% (+3) LDEM: 4% (-1) GRN: 4% (+1) via @yougov, 25 Nov - 01 Dec Chgs. w/ Sep And compared to GE2019 this is: Lab 51% (+10) Con 18% (-19) PC 13% (+3) Ref 8% (+3) LD 4% (-2) Grn 4% (+3) Swing of 14.5%, so a couple of points lower than than the 16-17% in YouGov's latest GB poll. But also consistent with the pattern in the English regions that the Con>Lab swing is highest where the Tories took most votes 3 years ago. |
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Post by James E on Dec 4, 2022 17:05:57 GMT
Now you are adding piffle to balderdash, if Labour were to win Totnes they would be on track for a whitewash. The south-west is a strange place politically and demographically, Totnes is a very strange place where deference and conservatism is more than skin deep. I'm actually in agreement with Trevor over this: this should surprise no-one as I have been highlighting the South and especially SW England sub-samples for months. YouGov's cross-breaks have consistently shown the largest Con> Lab swings in their combined South England samples ( SE+E+SW), typically a 4% swing higher than their GB average. Meanwhile R&W's cross-breaks have been showing the largest swings of all in SW England. This was 9 points swing over and above the GB average a few months ago, and still around 7 points above the average when I last checked on 21 Nov. The 7 poll R&W average for the SW region was then: Lab 46% (+23) Con 27% (-26) LD 16% (-2) So the 18-point swing which would be needed is well within this. And Labour had a clear second place in the constituency in 2017 (C54, Lab 27, LD13). My guess for this seat is that Totnes would be winnable at a GE in the event of a 12-14% Lab lead |
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Post by James E on Dec 4, 2022 10:48:23 GMT
Opinium 30 Nov to 2 Dec - Lab lead down from 17% 2 weeks ago to 14% Con 29% (+1) Lab 43% (-2) LD 8% (-1) Grn 6% (+2) Ref 6% (-) SNP ? Usual caveat with Opinium applies: their methodology reduces the Lab lead by around 6 points. On this particular one or are we going with ball park? I assume methodology will vary the lead depending on the don't knows rather than being a fixed figure. Not that commenting on polls means a lot at present as the leads are so large and people seem to have made their minds up on the Tories now I think. If Opinium is giving worst case scenario for Labour it's still a very comfortable lead. Opinium provided comparative figures for their new methodology for the first 4 or 5 polls when it first applied in January. From memory, these were all 6 or 7 point reductions in the Labour lead - for example a 3% lead which would have been 10%. www.opinium.com/resource-center/uk-voting-intention-27th-january-2022-2/ |
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Post by James E on Dec 3, 2022 21:21:44 GMT
Opinium 30 Nov to 2 Dec - Lab lead down from 17% 2 weeks ago to 14%
Con 29% (+1)
Lab 43% (-2)
LD 8% (-1)
Grn 6% (+2)
Ref 6% (-)
SNP ?
Usual caveat with Opinium applies: their methodology reduces the Lab lead by around 6 points.
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Post by James E on Dec 3, 2022 16:12:07 GMT
.... I'm not sure about yr post yesterday that Lib-Dems tactically voted in the Chester election, if I understood you correctly. Their share of the vote increased over 2017 & '19. They used to have a healthy vote there, but it collapsed in the carnage of 2015, & mainly switched to Labour which allowed them to win the seat. One or two commentators thought Labour "should have done better". Even Curtice was not entirely convinced, Maybe my very good friend James E will give an opinion. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Chester_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elections_in_the_2020sThanks, Robbie. I actually tried to predict the Chester by-election a few days ago (not posted here) based on current polling, and came up with Lab 60, Con 23, LD 6, Ref 4-5 Grn 4-5: not far from the actual result, but I underestimated the LDs and overestimated Ref and Grn. The Conservative share at 22.1% is very much what you would expect on current polling. They are down by about 40% on where they were at GE2019 (from 44 to 26av). Most, but not all of their net loss has gone to Labour. As this is a Labour-held seat, there was less scope for a large swing, but it is true that the 14-point Con>Lab swing is a bit less than the 17 points implied by Labour current average polling lead of 22%. Part of the reason is of course the surprise recovery in Chester of the LibDem vote: given that Lab were 1/100 on favourites, there would have been no need for LD>Lab tactical voting. The Tories were bound to lose anyway. Probably the biggest surprise to me was that Reform UK took only 2.7% (+0.2). I would have expected them to take a larger share on the Tory deserters, particularly as the outcome was never in doubt. |
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Post by James E on Nov 30, 2022 18:00:59 GMT
Comparison of R&W Full Scots poll & Scots crossbreaks in GB polls
27/11/22 Full Scottish poll (N=1000) SNP 41% : SLab 31% : SCon 18% : SLD 8% : SGP 2% : REFUK 2%
27/11/22 GB poll (N=140) SNP 32% : SLab 37% : SCon 17% : SLD 7% : SGP 2% : REFUK 3%
7 Nov GP poll average (N=888) SNP 39% : SLab 38% : SCon 21% : SLD 6% : SGP 3% : REFUK 2% The last of those totals to 109%. Any chance of a recount?  |
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Post by James E on Nov 28, 2022 18:37:52 GMT
It depends what timescale you're looking at. I think a lot of Leave voters realised that there might well be some short-term (a few years) economic consequences, but that long term prospects would be good because of freedom from having to follow rules that might suit other countries more than us. TOH reckoned 2030 would be a reasonable time to make a judgement and that seems about right to me. Having said that, the economy was not a major consideration for me anyway. Yes, the long-term impact did crop up in the convo at the time IIRC. There was quite a lot of revisionism after the referendum, but I don't recall any Leave leader (or supporter) speak about short-term or even medium-term difficulties, until after the vote had taken place. This is what I remember of the promised land portrayed by the Leave campaigns - and as with the YouGov poll I provided earlier - this is evedence from before 23rd June 2016, not after. reaction.life/britain-looks-like-brexit/ |
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Post by James E on Nov 28, 2022 17:50:14 GMT
c-a-r-f-r-e-w To reiterate the point I made some time ago - about your claim that some people 'might have voted for Brexit despite knowing they might take a hit for it'. There is good polling evidence from before the 2016 referendum that very very few of those voting Leave expected adverse consequences for themselves or for the UK. Per the figures below from YouGov with fieldwork on 20-22 June 2016, just 3% of those intending to vote Leave thought that leaving the EU would make them worse off, while the overwhelming majority thought it would make them better, or make no difference. d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/atmwrgevvj/TimesResults_160622_EVEOFPOLL.pdf Which when you take potential error into account and that leave only won by 4% hardly disproves the point, esp. when you take into account that the question only asks if they would be FINANCIALLY worse off, when they might consider they might be worse off in other ways. The point was always the views of Leave voters - people who 'might have voted for Brexit despite knowing they might take a hit for it'... If you read the YouGov poll that I have linked, there are all sorts of other questions about possible negative consequences to people's own prosperity, the economy, the NHS, pensions, immigration, and Britain's influence in the world. And none of these shows more than a very few expecting negative consequences. |
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Post by James E on Nov 28, 2022 14:35:33 GMT
Many thanks for your contributions, James. So good there is someone posting on a polling site, who actually knows something about polling. Haha, being able to cite polling, is not the same as properly being able to explain it. Nothing James posted proves that the gain is mostly due to Starmer, as opposed to Tory implosion. It’s like the time a while back, when I suggested that some might have voted for Brexit despite knowing they might take a hit for it, and this might have been enough to swing to Brexit. James E tried countering that by saying that actually, polling showed a majority thought Brexit would benefit them. robbiealive was quite taken with the idea this repudiated my point, but it didn’t of course. Because even if it’s the case that fifty-something percent or whatever thought Brexit would benefit them, you only needed a few percent of the others to swing the vote, given how close it was. To reiterate the point I made some time ago - about your claim that some people 'might have voted for Brexit despite knowing they might take a hit for it'. There is good polling evidence from before the 2016 referendum that very very few of those voting Leave expected adverse consequences for themselves or for the UK. Per the figures below from YouGov with fieldwork on 20-22 June 2016, just 3% of those intending to vote Leave thought that leaving the EU would make them worse off, while the overwhelming majority thought it would make them better, or make no difference. And to take a few other figures from the same poll, just 4% of Leavers thought it would make Britain worse (v 48% of them who thought it would make the country better off), and 2% of them thought it would be 'Bad for Jobs' (v 44% 'Good for Jobs'). So the polling numbers among those who voted Leave show that only a tiny minority expected adverse consequences. d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/atmwrgevvj/TimesResults_160622_EVEOFPOLL.pdf |
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Post by James E on Nov 28, 2022 11:57:45 GMT
Accruing the current poll lead to Starmer who was nowhere till the Tories massively self-immolated is quite the stretch. It’s like accruing the victory to Blair in ‘97 when Tory polling had already collapsed following Black Weds. There is a neat symmetry to the polls now compared to those when Starmer became Labour leader: Labour are now on average 22 points ahead of the Tories, whereas in April 2020 they were 22 points behind. The other polling fact in his favour is the lead Starmer has had over Johnson, Truss and Sunak in 'Best PM' polls. Neither Milliband nor Corbyn ever achieved this in a single poll in their (combined) 9 years as Labour leader. |
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Post by James E on Nov 26, 2022 21:16:49 GMT
Though the YouGov polling is 10 days old and "a week is a long time" etc. I think that YouGov's 48/25 must be about 22-23 Nov, even though we don't know the dates at present. Their previous 47/26 was from fieldwork of 15-16 Nov and their normal pattern is to take one poll each week. |
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Post by James E on Nov 26, 2022 20:44:20 GMT
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Post by James E on Nov 26, 2022 18:14:50 GMT
Bwriad Pleidleisio San Steffan: LAB: 48% (+1) CON: 25% (-1) LDM: 9% (=) RFM: 5% (-1) GRN: 5% (=) Newidiadau w/ 15-16 Tach. Trwy tiGov  |
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Post by James E on Nov 24, 2022 22:34:10 GMT
That R&W 'Red Wall' poll is a 16-point swing on GE2019, so one point lower than R&W's recent GB poll with a 21 point Labour lead.
Comparative figures to 2019 are:
Labour 53% (+15)
Conservative 30% (-17)
Lib Dem 6% (+1.5)
Ref 5% (-1.5)
Grn 3% (+1.5)
In recent months, these polls have shown resuts close to the overall GB movement. As the seats at stake are all Con/Lab contests, the other parties may well be squeezed in an actual GE . Looking at the details of this poll, the age cross-breaks are unusual: the Tories might be pleased to take 27% of the 18-24s (n=83) , but less so to take only 29% of the 55-64s, and to trail by 9 points with the over 65s.
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Post by James E on Nov 24, 2022 21:00:09 GMT
While these are not 'new' polls as such, I have noticed that several previously unreleased polls by Omnisis (all commissioned by 'The byline Times', whoever they are) have been added to the Wiki page for UK polls. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#2020Previously, we have only had published polls from Omnisis since 22 September. And those that we have had have tended to be at the top end of the range for Lab leads - for example their most recent with a 27% Lab lead is around 5 points higher than the general average. What we now have is a series of eight previously unreleased'polls' from Omnisis dated from Jan-July 2022, all of which are huge outliers with Labour leads 15-20 points higher than the norm at the time. For example a Lab lead of 24 points on 8 April when the prevailing average of other pollsters was a lead of 5 points. Does anyone know any more about these polls? It looks as if Omnisis were practising their methodology before actually publishing their figures, but if they were not confident enough to publish these polls at the time, why have they done so now? |
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Post by James E on Nov 24, 2022 19:02:50 GMT
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Post by James E on Nov 24, 2022 17:45:01 GMT
@james E - I would have thought that there might also be an element of reversion to mean in that Kantar poll? Last time they must had had a Labour lead of 4%, so rather at the margins of moe I would have thought? Yes, Kantar's previous poll (Lab lead of 4 on 26 Sept) was a big outlier, 11 points below the prevailing polling average at that time which was a lead of about 15 points. So this time, they are 'only' about 7 points below the average of other pollsters. Looking back at Kantar's polls this year, it's: 23 Nov 15% Lab lead (v Av 22%) 26 Sept 4% Lab Lead (v Av 15%) 22 Aug 7% Lab Lead (v Av 11%) 18 July 4% Lab lead (v Av 10%) 23 May 6% Lab lead (v Av 7%) 11 Apr 3% Lab lead ( v Av 8%) 21 Mar 0% Lab lead (v Av 4%) |
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Post by James E on Nov 24, 2022 17:26:28 GMT
New Kantar poll Think their methodology is similar to Opinium? Looking back at the past 6 Kantar polls, they typically show Lab leads around 5 points lower than the prevailing average at the time. And they were the most recent company to show anything other than a Labour lead (with a Tie on 21 March). I'm not sure if this is due to them following Opinium's methodology, as their polls have been the most favourable to the Tories for several years. |
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Post by James E on Nov 21, 2022 23:38:06 GMT
@ Isa
I don't live the the South West, and can't claim to have much 'feel' for which seats are stronger Labour targets. I have actually aprproached the question of which seats might fall from the other end: Christchurch is the Tories' safest seat in the entire South West England region, and on the figures above from 30 Oct-20 Nov, Chope would hold it for them with only a 3-4% majority.
To give an example of the effects of the movements I have calculated: Devon West and Torridge would be:
Lab 40% (+23)
Con 36% (-26)
LD 16% (-2)
But, to be realistic, the real Labour targets need to be places which are within a swing of up to 15%. So this would certainly include both Bournemouth seats, and beyond that ones such as Kingswood, Somerset NE, Somerset N, Plymouth Moor View, Swindon North, and St Austel and Newquay.
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Post by James E on Nov 21, 2022 21:44:36 GMT
It's been more than a month since I have looked at the regional cross-breaks for South-West and South-East England, but with R&W having done 7 polls since 30th October, it seemed a good time to look again at their detailed figures. By way of background: I noted earlier this year that both YouGov and R&W's figures were showing higher than average swings in the South of England samples. In particular, R&W have been showing some exceptional figures for Labour in SW England for the past 6 months.
The 7 recent R&W polls in question show a steady average of a 21-point Labour lead (23,17,21,21,24,21,21) which would be around a 17-point swing from GE2019. And, as ever with cross-breaks, these are small samples of around 150-220 people, and are not internally weighted.
The 7-poll averages, with changes from GE2019, are:
SE England
Lab 43% (+21)
Con 34% (-20)
LibDem 13% (-5)
SW England
Lab 46% (+23)
Con 27% (-26)
LD 16% (-2)
So swings of roughly 20% in SE England and 24% in the South-West - the latter being some 7 points more than the overall GB 17% average of the same polls.
[For some more context to this: I did the same exercise on 10 Oct, using the 9 most recent polls then . At that time the R&W average for their South-West sub samples was a 26 point swing in the context of a GB swing of 17%.]
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Post by James E on Nov 21, 2022 21:08:48 GMT
Indeed ! Well done Wales.
A draw against a country which has 106 times their population, 297 times their GDP and 463 times their territory.
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Post by James E on Nov 21, 2022 19:05:42 GMT
Lots of interesting stuff like this from this guy: The Tim Traveller: The World's Only Country-Swapping Island
I'm a big fan of Tim Traveller. This is one where he explains what happens when the border between two countries is a River which subsequently changes course. www.youtube.com/watch?v=372ROi0nbyc |
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Post by James E on Nov 21, 2022 11:20:20 GMT
I doubt it, more likely they will make clear they will vote against anything that they see as going against the 'purity' of their form of Brexit Just the threat will be enough fir Sunak to cave in, which seems to have happened already Should create clear blue water for Labour and I think the public are generally in favour with closer relations with the EU even if not rejoining. Every single poll over the past 6 months shows a majority for 'Rejoin'. That's thirty polls by six different pollsters. whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/should-the-united-kingdom-join-the-european-union-or-stay-out-of-the-european-union/?removed |
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Post by James E on Nov 20, 2022 17:16:15 GMT
On whether the Tories are dead and buried, I do recommend the link I posted the other day benansell.substack.com/p/are-the-conservatives-in-a-death?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2 Among other things, the author points out that if those who voted conservative last time but are now D/K all return to the Tory ranks the difference is about 10 percent and this is obviously bridgeable. That's stretching the point a bit re 'Don't Knows'. And it must be borne in mind that there are 2019 Labour Don't Knows, who are worth 3% if they all revert. It would be totally unprecedented for all DKs to revert, and a more sensible adjustment is for about half to go back to the party they voted for last time. Looking at recent polls, this would typically cut Labour's lead over the Tories by about 4% - although with some pollsters such as Opinium this is effectively already factored in. |
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Post by James E on Nov 19, 2022 11:58:09 GMT
There has been little mention of Brexit and its effects. Suddenly this week it has been mentioned a lot. It was even brought up on Question Time Thursday night, The BBC wont be happy as it was not one of the set questions. I suspect a lot those on the Right who supported it are now questioning its value. They wanted the So called "Singapore on Thames" type Brexit. With low tax and regulation. This vision they had is now gone, after the disaster of Trussonomics. For example in the Daily Mail Today Andrew Neil writes "The week Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt killed the dream of any Brexit dividend stone dead" www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11445479/The-week-Rishi-Sunak-Jeremy-Hunt-killed-dream-Brexit-dividend-stone-dead.html I don't know if anyone else here is familiar with the "A Different Bias" channel on YouTube, but Phil deserves credit for spotting the change in reporting from the BBC fully a week ago. "12 Nov 2022 For over two years after leaving the EU, the BBC deliberately edited out all mention of brexit from many of their reports on the economy, and the government pursued a path of divergence for the sake of divergence. Now, with public opinion changing significantly since the mini budget, the government are promoting more pragmatic brexit policies, and the BBC are at last reporting on the economy realities of brexit." www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lZhKFMQ2JE |
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