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Post by mercian on Oct 14, 2022 16:33:50 GMT
Prof Danny Blanchflower telling Sky that he can't see Truss being in position by the end of next week. What a great footballer he was. Bill Nicholson's Spurs-John White, Jimmy Greaves, Bobby Smith. Cliff Jones. The majestic Blanchflower .   Those were the days. Terry Medwin, Peter? Baker etc. Of course Blanchflower was a Villa cast-off. He didn't make the grade. |
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Oct 14, 2022 16:42:37 GMT
What a great footballer he was. Bill Nicholson's Spurs-John White, Jimmy Greaves, Bobby Smith. Cliff Jones. The majestic Blanchflower . Those were the days. Terry Medwin, Peter? Baker etc. Of course Blanchflower was a Villa cast-off. He didn't make the grade. Just like Mr Beale. I wonder what happened to him? Current Championship Top 3 1. Sheff Utd Played 13, Goal diff. 11, 24pts 2 Norwich Played 13, Goal diff.7, 24pts 3 QPR Played 13, Goal diff. 6, 24pts |
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Post by peterbell on Oct 14, 2022 16:47:29 GMT
Prof Danny Blanchflower telling Sky that he can't see Truss being in position by the end of next week. What a great footballer he was. Bill Nicholson's Spurs-John White, Jimmy Greaves, Bobby Smith. Cliff Jones. The majestic Blanchflower . Those were the days. I originally just typed Danny Blanchflower but realising that there would probably be a footballing response, added the prof thinking that would avoid the football comments. I should have known better on this forum but I didn't expect the response to be from you colin. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2022 16:49:48 GMT
... as the image is still of incompetent Tories running around like headless chickens. This week has been dreadful from a comms perspective. The spin doctors say that when you're in a crisis you have to work out early on what the endpoint is, then take the shortest, cleanest route there. You move as quickly as possible to a position that you know will hold, rather than allowing yourself to be pushed there in stages. This govt has allowed itself to be dragged, slowly and painfully through a retreat and nobody thinks we've reached the endpoint yet. Truss hasn't been quick enough or ruthless enough to save her premiership; senior Tories sceptical about her leadership and her programme haven't been quick enough or ruthless enough to minimise the damage to their party. We've got govt by the bond markets and the media. |
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Post by pjw1961 on Oct 14, 2022 16:49:58 GMT
Given how many chaotic episodes there have been over the last seven years, today was one of those days where I had a wry smile to myself thinking about "chaos with Ed Miliband", so I was amused to see this from the man himself: I had a dream ... It is 2015 and the polls have been vindicated. Ed Miliband's Labour is victorious with the most seats but no majority. The Liberal Democrats have lost seats but managed to hang on to 24. They agree to support a minority Labour government in exchange for the introduction of AV without a referendum (the offer Gordon Brown made in 2010, but this time the parliamentary arithmetic is better). David Cameron resigns and George Osborne become Leader of the Opposition. Nigel Farage continues to bang-on about an EU referendum, but it isn't in the Labour manifesto and Nick Clegg quietly shelves his party's commitment to one saying Miliband can't be persuaded. Pro-Euope Osborne also tacitly agrees to ignore UKIP, who as a result continue to do well in European elections but otherwise get nowhere with their main campaign. No EU referendum takes place and the UK remains in the EU. Nor does the SNP, despite their 2015 success, have much of a hook on which to hang their demand for a repeat of the 2014 referendum this quickly. Corbyn never becomes leader of the Labour Party and May, Johnson and Truss never become leader of the Conservative Party. Governing quietly and uncontroversially the Labour government is neither especially popular nor unpopular but with relatively benign economic conditions the 2019 General Election under AV produces a broadly similar outcome to 2015. Osborne resigns and is replaced by Jeremy Hunt. Ed Miliband is now 3 years into his second term. And then I woke up ... |
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Post by domjg on Oct 14, 2022 16:51:42 GMT
I'll try not to take that too personally. Eh? I must have missed something, I thought it was Mr Bat11's attention I was evading. |
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Oct 14, 2022 16:55:32 GMT
Given how many chaotic episodes there have been over the last seven years, today was one of those days where I had a wry smile to myself thinking about "chaos with Ed Miliband", so I was amused to see this from the man himself: I had a dream ... It is 2015 and the polls have been vindicated. Ed Miliband's Labour is victorious with the most seats but no majority. The Liberal Democrats have lost seats but managed to hang on to 24. They agree to support a minority Labour government in exchange for the introduction of AV without a referendum (the offer Gordon Brown made in 2010, but this time the parliamentary arithmetic is better). David Cameron resigns and George Osborne become Leader of the Opposition. Nigel Farage continues to bang-on about an EU referendum, but it isn't in the Labour manifesto and Nick Clegg quietly shelves his party's commitment to one saying Miliband can't be persuaded. Pro-Euope Osborne also tacitly agrees to ignore UKIP, who as a result continue to do well in European elections but otherwise get nowhere with their main campaign. No EU referendum takes place and the UK remains in the EU. Nor does the SNP, despite their 2015 success, have much of a hook on which to hang their demand for a repeat of the 2014 referendum this quickly. Corbyn never becomes leader of the Labour Party and May, Johnson and Truss never become leader of the Conservative Party. Governing quietly and uncontroversially the Labour government is neither especially popular nor unpopular but with relatively benign economic conditions the 2019 General Election under AV produces a broadly similar outcome to 2015. Osborne resigns and is replaced by Jeremy Hunt. Ed Miliband is now 3 years into his second term. And then I woke up ... I'd take another sleeping pill. |
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Oct 14, 2022 16:57:56 GMT
Even the lady who who bred our bearded collie has posted a plea for a general election on her FB page. One of the most unpolitical people I know.
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Post by lululemonmustdobetter on Oct 14, 2022 17:01:24 GMT
I'll try not to take that too personally. Eh? I must have missed something, I thought it was Mr Bat11's attention I was evading. |
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Post by steamdrivenandy on Oct 14, 2022 17:04:38 GMT
Please give him the respect of his full title - Mr Xbatayeaye
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Post by steve on Oct 14, 2022 17:04:57 GMT
Only two more chancellors until Christmas.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2022 17:09:40 GMT
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Post by leftieliberal on Oct 14, 2022 17:11:11 GMT
Good man. Crossbat11 is one of my favourite posters too. Nothing wrong with marmite (unless you are an Aussie, when it is the alternative, Vegemite). |
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Post by neilj on Oct 14, 2022 17:11:39 GMT
Summary of recent polls
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Post by neilj on Oct 14, 2022 17:13:53 GMT
@lululemonmustdobetter
'Find him a bit marmite'
But does that mean you hate or love him 😀
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Post by alec on Oct 14, 2022 17:16:07 GMT
steamdrivenandy - "Even the lady who who bred our bearded collie has posted a plea for a general election on her FB page. One of the most unpolitical people I know." That's some weird lady.I've met a few women with odd sexual preferences, but never bearded collies.
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Post by lululemonmustdobetter on Oct 14, 2022 17:16:13 GMT
@lululemonmustdobetter 'Find him a bit marmite' But does that mean you hate or love him 😀 |
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Post by pjw1961 on Oct 14, 2022 17:20:45 GMT
Liz Truss tweats "I'm waiting for Kantar" |
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Post by leftieliberal on Oct 14, 2022 17:22:48 GMT
Ukraine war: Putin says no more massive strike - for now www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63255617What he cannot admit is that they have run out of missiles without nuclear warheads. Meanwhile Elon Musk is doing the Kremlin's dirty work for them by now warning he will cut off access to his Starlink internet satellites unless the US Government pays for it, this coming from the world's richest man. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2022 17:23:04 GMT
What a great footballer he was. Bill Nicholson's Spurs-John White, Jimmy Greaves, Bobby Smith. Cliff Jones. The majestic Blanchflower . Those were the days. I originally just typed Danny Blanchflower but realising that there would probably be a footballing response, added the prof thinking that would avoid the football comments. I should have known better on this forum but I didn't expect the response to be from you colin . You have been spending too much time on UKPR2 perhaps-getting into that stereotypical thinking ? ps I think "your"Danny Blanchflower is probably a better footballer than he is an economist.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2022 17:25:02 GMT
What a great footballer he was. Bill Nicholson's Spurs-John White, Jimmy Greaves, Bobby Smith. Cliff Jones. The majestic Blanchflower . Those were the days. Welcome to my world of gratuitous football references and metaphors, Colin. Belongs to you does it ? |
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Post by crossbat11 on Oct 14, 2022 17:26:19 GMT
Liz Truss tweats "I'm waiting for Kantar" Beckett's follow up work after Waiting for Godot. |
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Post by chrisaberavon on Oct 14, 2022 17:26:44 GMT
CROSSBAT11
Hello to you, my first 'team' was 'Tottingham Hotspur' as I used to listen to the games on the old wireless. (In Plymouth then in the very early 1960's)
Glory is indeed the aim. I too loved Blanchflower
Attlee was mentioned on here in terms of his methods of speaking.
1. After losing the 1951 Election a journalist asked him why Labour lost. He replied: 'Not enough votes'
2. When we got the bomb he got a party loyalist to ask in a written question if we had acquired the A bomb. Clem replied in writing 'Yes')
3 When Foot and Crossman protested (with Nye's tacit support) against Bevin's anti USSR policies he called 'Double Crossman' into the PM Office, rebuked him sharply and as Crossman left: 'Give my regards to your Mother' Clem knew that he did not get on with her.
When Labour won in 1945 (I think the date is correct), he said that it had been a very exciting day.. and of course the way he replied to Mr Churchill's warnings about the Gestapo, the way he replied was stunningly brilliant; my Mum's Dad would cry when he told me about it. I believe that he was one of the last men on the beach at Gallipoli.
Finally (!) the best story I have heard is about a time that young Labour activists, circa 1960, were knocking on the doors in his area and when they came to his door, harangued him about the need to join the Party... 'Already a member' he said and slammed the door on them.
Has the time come for another dull leader to win for the mad old party? (I love his bit of poetry about becoming knight of the garter!
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Post by bedknobsandboomstick on Oct 14, 2022 17:26:45 GMT
steamdrivenandy - "Even the lady who who bred our bearded collie has posted a plea for a general election on her FB page. One of the most unpolitical people I know." That's some weird lady.I've met a few women with odd sexual preferences, but never bearded collies. Did you hear about the kinky shepherd? He kept mount'in goats. |
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Post by hireton on Oct 14, 2022 17:28:36 GMT
Snap Savanta ComRes poll on today's events:
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Post by crossbat11 on Oct 14, 2022 17:29:43 GMT
Welcome to my world of gratuitous football references and metaphors, Colin. Belongs to you does it ? Well, it was a turn of phrase. It's a world I share with many, I hope. No, I don't own it. I was just having what I thought was a pleasant exchange of old memories. Hey, ho and away you go. |
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Post by neilj on Oct 14, 2022 17:34:13 GMT
@lululemonmustdobetter 'Find him a bit marmite' But does that mean you hate or love him 😀 I thought marmite was something you loved or hated, not something you liked one day and not the other. I hate it (marmite not batty) |
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Post by reggieside on Oct 14, 2022 17:34:15 GMT
Given how many chaotic episodes there have been over the last seven years, today was one of those days where I had a wry smile to myself thinking about "chaos with Ed Miliband", so I was amused to see this from the man himself: I had a dream ... It is 2015 and the polls have been vindicated. Ed Miliband's Labour is victorious with the most seats but no majority. The Liberal Democrats have lost seats but managed to hang on to 24. They agree to support a minority Labour government in exchange for the introduction of AV without a referendum (the offer Gordon Brown made in 2010, but this time the parliamentary arithmetic is better). David Cameron resigns and George Osborne become Leader of the Opposition. Nigel Farage continues to bang-on about an EU referendum, but it isn't in the Labour manifesto and Nick Clegg quietly shelves his party's commitment to one saying Miliband can't be persuaded. Pro-Euope Osborne also tacitly agrees to ignore UKIP, who as a result continue to do well in European elections but otherwise get nowhere with their main campaign. No EU referendum takes place and the UK remains in the EU. Nor does the SNP, despite their 2015 success, have much of a hook on which to hang their demand for a repeat of the 2014 referendum this quickly. Corbyn never becomes leader of the Labour Party and May, Johnson and Truss never become leader of the Conservative Party. Governing quietly and uncontroversially the Labour government is neither especially popular nor unpopular but with relatively benign economic conditions the 2019 General Election under AV produces a broadly similar outcome to 2015. Osborne resigns and is replaced by Jeremy Hunt. Ed Miliband is now 3 years into his second term. And then I woke up ... Well thank god we avoided that chaos .... imagine the state the country would be in. |
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Post by domjg on Oct 14, 2022 17:35:54 GMT
Eh? I must have missed something, I thought it was Mr Bat11's attention I was evading. Definitely not! I may not have accurately followed the messages correctly as on the go. Thought I was on the run from Mr Bat11's new found delinquency.. |
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Post by domjg on Oct 14, 2022 17:37:47 GMT
Sometimes one, sometimes the other. I thought marmite was something you loved or hated, not something you liked one day and not the other. I hate it (marmite not batty) Love marmite, to the total bewliderment of Germans I know. |
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