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Post by crossbat11 on Nov 24, 2022 23:44:21 GMT
There you go again; always bringing it back to sex and puerile double-entendres. I've threatened to block you once before, and unwisely desisted from doing so, but this really is the last straw. Goodbye. Blimey, I really thought you meant that at first (although pjw1961's subsequent post suggests that is not the case). I'd hate to play poker against you! Mind you, I'd hate to play poker against anyone, as I'm rubbish at card games (except rummy). I was playing my joker, isa. As for card games, I never really got much beyond Snap. Never had a poker face and the odd time I played three card brag I was either very unlucky or, more likely, bloody useless. |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 24, 2022 23:51:57 GMT
How about bringing back a Prices and Incomes Policy of which we had several examples under both main parties in the 1960s and 1970s? I didn't know much about that at the time, but having looked it up it appears that the 'Incomes' part of it was an effort to keep wages down, which is the opposite of what Danny was on about. This is an important part of the left-wing approach that doesn’t seem to get talked about so much: the critical need to bear down on prices of essentials, and the relationship to wages. In the post-war period, inflation was often an issue, because of the policy of full employment. You are more likely to get inflation as you near full employment. This was turbocharged in the Seventies with inflation due to the oil crisis. One way to try and bring inflation down is by limiting wage increases which is what they did with an incomes policy. This is actually in some respects a right wing approach, favouring capital by reducing its costs at the expense of the workers. (But in preserving jobs it might be preferable to policies that cut wages by getting rid of a lot of manufacturing and creating a load more unemployment to drive down wages). A more ideal way is to bring inflation down by reducing prices of essentials. You can do this with price controls but a more ideal way is by investing to actually lower costs of production. And where business isn’t doing this enough, the state can assist. This is a good idea anyway for additional reasons. One, is that if wages go up, business may simply put prices up to match, soaking up the wage gain. Alternatively, bearing down on prices means you get more for your wages. It also lowers costs for business making it more competitive. Investing in the counter-inflationary rarely gets talked about, but it’s critical. (Instead people talk about controlling inflation by cutting spending (often harming growth), or by bearing down on wages). And bringing down the price of some things - like energy, property etc. - can beneficially affect the price of many other things |
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Post by graham on Nov 24, 2022 23:52:51 GMT
I grew up in Pembrokeshire - aka 'Little England beyond Wales' - and have never felt the least bit culturally Welsh. I have always considered myself British. To me England, Wales & Scotland are no more separate nations than Bavaria, Saxony & Baden Wurtemberg are as component parts of Germany- or Brittany, Alsace Lorraine & Normandy are as component parts of France - or Tuscany, Umbria & Sardinia are as component parts of Italy. Having known people from Pembrokeshire I'm aware that it's effectively not Wales (the Landser line etc) You refer to it yourself as 'Little England beyond Wales' so I guess that's what it is. It's certainly what it felt like when visiting there, nothing at all like the South Wales or Ceredigion that I'm very familiar with. I have not permanently lived in Wales since leaving for university in 1973. I always agreed with Tam Dalyell on Devolution being 'a slippery slope to Independence ' and feel its effect on both Wales & Scotland to have been divisive and destructive. Re-Wales I always refer to the Welsh Assembly and deeply resent the Welsh speaking minority seeking to impose the Senedd on the non-Welsh speaking majority. |
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Post by ladyvalerie on Nov 24, 2022 23:55:33 GMT
Michael Gove reported as saying that the death of a child from mould in his home was unforgiveable. I hope he means that, because the reason people are living in such poor accommodation is mainly the conservative ban on housebuilding creating a shortage and very expensive homes, plus giving away the social housing stock to bribe voters, so that people end up living like this. Its his fault, he supported the policy. So what is he going to do having committed this unforgiveable act? Mould is the result of a poorly maintained home. The death of a child is a tragedy but I don't see how it's the government's fault. Why didn't the householder fix the mould problem? I don't know the precise details of the case, but either the resident if the homeowner, or landlord would be to blame, and primarily the resident even then. If I lived in a rented house with bad mould and the landlord wouldn't fix it, I'd either do it myself regardless of rules or move rather than let my child become ill and die. As you “don’t know the precise details of the case” I don’t why you feel the need to air your views or think that anyone would be interested. NOT banter. |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 25, 2022 0:04:23 GMT
Foreign students face ban from UK universities
Ministers explore plans for admissions to top institutions only in attempt to cut immigration
All foreign students will also have new restrictions on bringing family members with them after the number of dependants almost tripled in a year.
The prime minister said that “all options” were on the table after it emerged that total immigration had reached an estimated 1.1 million in the year to June. About 560,000 people emigrated, leaving net migration at a record 504,000, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
One of the ideas being considered is barring foreign students unless they have a place at an elite university. The universities that take the most foreign students at present include Manchester, Edinburgh, Leeds, Sheffield, University College London, King’s College London and Imperial.
A crackdown on low-quality degrees was promised by Nadhim Zahawi when he was education secretary. His measures, recently introduced by the Office for Students, will penalise universities with high drop-out rates and low graduate earnings.
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Post by mercian on Nov 25, 2022 0:04:39 GMT
ladyvalerieBecause mould is a common problem which can be fixed, and a responsible parent would have done so or moved away.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2022 0:12:10 GMT
Blimey, I really thought you meant that at first (although pjw1961 's subsequent post suggests that is not the case). I'd hate to play poker against you! Mind you, I'd hate to play poker against anyone, as I'm rubbish at card games (except rummy). I was playing my joker, isa. As for card games, I never really got much beyond Snap. Never had a poker face and the odd time I played three card brag I was either very unlucky or, more likely, bloody useless. Card games are inherently unrewarding territory for me, too. If I'm dealt a good hand, my fizzog invariably telegraphs this to my opponents, with all too predictable results. Monopoly is a different kettle of fish, though. There, I'm an inscrutable, ruthless and highly effective operator. Everyone has a superpower, and Monopoly is probably mine. |
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Post by ladyvalerie on Nov 25, 2022 0:21:12 GMT
I well remember UKPR1 back in 2014.
Inearly lost the will to live 💤💤💤
According to Hireton, not actively campaigning for the law to be changed to bring about another referendum on Scottish independence means I’m a British Nationalist.
It isn’t a priority for me. I’m more concerned about women’s rights
Respect my sex.
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Post by ladyvalerie on Nov 25, 2022 0:26:41 GMT
ladyvalerie Because mould is a common problem which can be fixed, and a responsible parent would have done so or moved away. You’ve no idea of the extent of the mould problem or where the family could have moved to. The coroner did and gave her verdict. |
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Post by joeboy on Nov 25, 2022 0:38:59 GMT
The whole point of a referendum is it is supposed to settle a controversial issue through a single issue vote. Having a referendum on the same issue once every parliament suggests you are settling nothing, just refusing to accept a result you don't like. So yes, I suspect if a border poll were held in Northern Ireland that resulted in a decision to stay in the union the political reality would be that another could not be held for another 15 or 20 years whatever the rules might theoretically say, and I detect absolutely no enthusiasm from any party for another EU referendum any time soon after the trauma of the last one (moves to tweak the relationship without a referendum are much more likely). I am pretty certain that the SNP leadership know this too. Unless the vote was ridiculously one sided, the next vote in Northern Ireland would be in seven years. To paraphrase McMillan, 'Demographics dear boy, demographics'. However, how we get the first go at a vote is unclear at present, but to be honest from a southern perspective the north is looking increasingly unstable and close to an implosion of some sort, that could lead to a border poll. I'm not comparing the two countries, just pointing out that there are very different factors and agreements in play regarding the constitutional question. |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 25, 2022 0:51:26 GMT
Boris Johnson and Liz Truss have joined a backbench rebellion over energy policy in their first major parliamentary interventions since leaving No 10.
“The two former prime ministers have signed an amendment to the government’s Levelling Up and Regeneration Bill in an effort to end a ban on new onshore wind farms.
While he was in office Johnson supported the ban, which has been in place since 2015, but he will now try to overturn it.
The amendment is being tabled by Simon Clarke, who served as levelling up secretary under Truss.
It is the latest in a string of challenges to Rishi Sunak’s authority from within his own party.”
ALSO…
Boris Johnson ‘almost served in Liz Truss’s Cabinet as foreign secretary’
“Ms Truss met the former prime minister twice during this summer’s leadership contest, the book by journalist Sebastian Payne reveals.
The pair also spoke on the telephone in the last week of July – when Mr Johnson was still prime minister, where they in effect discussed a job swap should she win the contest.
She suggested that he could return to the Foreign Office, where he had served from 2016 to 2018, to concentrate on the war in Ukraine.
But in the end, the pair decided such an arrangement would be too complicated, according to the book, The Fall of Boris Johnson.”
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Post by oldnat on Nov 25, 2022 1:05:38 GMT
I was responding to Hireton who does indeed seem to think an SNP victory in a Holyrood automatically triggers a right to another referendum. Pleased to see you agree with me.
I suspect you were misreading what he said. The continuous series of SNP victories in Holyrood and Westminster elections (whether or not indyef2 was in their manifesto) demonstrates wide support for independence (or at the very least, the transfer of significant sovereign powers to Holyrood). Had the Supreme Court ruled that Holyrood did have the right to legislate for indy referendums, then it would be theoretically possible for parties in favour of independence, if they were voted into power, to run such referendums every 4 years (assuming that the parties were daft enough to do so, and the electorate foolish enough to mandate that).
Westminster has the power to run referendums on EU membership every week - but it ain't going to happen. hireton made no such suggestion about an empowered Holyrood, so you are just tilting at windmills.
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Post by oldnat on Nov 25, 2022 1:22:36 GMT
I well remember UKPR1 back in 2014. Inearly lost the will to live 💤💤💤 According to Hireton, not actively campaigning for the law to be changed to bring about another referendum on Scottish independence means I’m a British Nationalist. It isn’t a priority for me. I’m more concerned about women’s rights Respect my sex.
It may well be that you are wholly unconcerned whether Scotland remains part of the UK Union or not. In that case, no one would be describing you as a "British Nationalist" since you wouldn't be bothered about the continuity of the British/UK state. |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Nov 25, 2022 1:33:40 GMT
AND… more Truss and Bojo!
Liz Truss ‘painted over’ Boris Johnson’s £840-a-roll No 10 gold wallpaper, says Jeremy Hunt
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“The Chancellor said he and his family "wanted to see the wallpaper" at Number 11 before moving into their new flat this weekend.
Mr Johnson and his wife Carrie reportedly put up £840-a-roll gold wallpaper as part of a £200,000 refurbishment.
In a speech at The Spectator's Parliamentarian awards, where he won survivor of the year, he continued: "The massive disappointment was to discover that that wallpaper had started to peel off of its own accord and had actually been painted over by Liz Truss.
"So I will be saying to my children: scratch over there, there’s gold in them walls'."
His comments sparked an unlikely row over the renovation, as supporters of Ms Truss told The Times she did not even get round to any decorations in Downing Street during her fateful 49 days in power.…”
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Post by oldnat on Nov 25, 2022 1:46:06 GMT
AND… more Truss and Bojo! Liz Truss ‘painted over’ Boris Johnson’s £840-a-roll No 10 gold wallpaper, says Jeremy Hunt… “ The Chancellor said he and his family "wanted to see the wallpaper" at Number 11 before moving into their new flat this weekend.
Mr Johnson and his wife Carrie reportedly put up £840-a-roll gold wallpaper as part of a £200,000 refurbishment.
In a speech at The Spectator's Parliamentarian awards, where he won survivor of the year, he continued: "The massive disappointment was to discover that that wallpaper had started to peel off of its own accord and had actually been painted over by Liz Truss.
"So I will be saying to my children: scratch over there, there’s gold in them walls'."
His comments sparked an unlikely row over the renovation, as supporters of Ms Truss told The Times she did not even get round to any decorations in Downing Street during her fateful 49 days in power.…”
The vision of Truss, in decorator's overalls, with a stepladder, brush and can of B&Q paint, busily splashing emulsion on the walls, is hard to imagine. |
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Post by eor on Nov 25, 2022 2:41:49 GMT
ladyvalerie Because mould is a common problem which can be fixed, and a responsible parent would have done so or moved away. A common problem that I suspect many people have no idea can be life-threatening, and that many people in cheaper rented accommodation are used to having in some degree as just a fact of life. Even if the family in this awful situation realised that it can be acutely dangerous to a vulnerable person, *and* realised their child for whatever reason was vulnerable to it, you then assume they had the economic means to move, basically the availability of somewhere to move to that was affordable, practical to their needs, viable for their employment, viable for any family-provided childcare and so on, *and* likely to have less mould than their current place. As for your earlier assertion you'd resolve it yourself regardless of the rules, that's fine for you but how many people do you imagine have the skills and tools to even replaster a wall they've stripped back looking for incoming damp, let alone the knowledge and wherewithal to diagnose and treat something as complicated as a mould buildup? Likewise if the issue were simply down to the landlord being negligent, it seems unlikely that would have escaped the coroner's attention in such an unusual and inevitably high-profile case. And even if that were the case, it would just reinforce the above - if you're renting from a landlord who is providing unfit conditions that is probably your expectation of your affordable alternatives too. But as even good landlords will tell you, mould and damp are a big problem in well-maintained homes too, because if there's no suitable outdoor space or if the tenants don't have room for or can't afford to run a tumble dryer they will inevitably dry clothes on the radiators which pumps a huge amount of moisture into the walls. (and believe me, when you have a small child, the volume of laundry you're doing increases exponentially!). And for most of the year, they're not going to ventilate that incredibly moist air, because firstly opening windows/doors would be p*ssing away the very expensive heating they're paying for, and secondly it's very hard to appreciate just how much water is involved until you see how much a condenser dryer actually traps. You like old money, so for us with a small child it's probably somewhere between several pints and a gallon each week? Just imagine spraying that much water every week onto the walls of a couple of rooms where you keep the windows shut to conserve heat, and not getting problems building up very quickly. |
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Post by eor on Nov 25, 2022 2:55:19 GMT
Mr Poppy - "The truth of the aviation industry's problems (for UK and everywhere else) is eluded to in their piece - the Covid pandemic." Do you never stop to wonder - just for a moment - that the people who run such businesses day in and day out might just have a little more insight as to what affects their industry than you do? I'm sure they do alec - and if I were to sit down and have a candid discussion with Willie Walsh or Michael O'Leary I'm sure I'd learn an enormous deal about the realities of their industries. But when we're talking about their public statements that have the primary purpose of trying to get rules and subsidies and whatever else adjusted in the direction of their profitability it's reasonable to be sceptical and assume they're saying whatever will keep them in a job and/or make them the most cash, rather than acting as neutral arbiters in your endless fight with the Trevs. Of course blaming Brexit is attractive, it's out of their control - what airline boss in the world is going to stand up and say "you know what, yes, when COVID hit I did fire a whole load of skilled and loyal people too callously whilst protecting my profit margin and my share price, I just wrongly assumed I could rehire them as easily as I needed to and now I look a total fool"? |
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Post by eor on Nov 25, 2022 3:02:19 GMT
Reminds me of my days in a Welsh comprehensive in the early unreconstructed 70s. The girls always played football or rounders and the boys played rugby union. The Welsh love of football more than rugby is a relative recent phenomenon, mind you with the current state of the WRU perhaps that's a good thing!  You had girls in your school! I went to Penlan Comp in the 1970's; boys only. Unreconstructed does not begin to describe the lack of civilisation amongst teenage boys, mainly from sink estates, without the moderating influence of females. Playing Rugby Union was about the only time that rules were (mainly) obeyed (for a given value of obeyed). To give just one example during my time there I had to dive out of the way as a boy with a clothesline bridle rode a Gower Pony, at at least a canter although it felt like a gallop, along the bottom corridor. As someone who grew up on the Uplands side of that boundary I'm glad to know that my perception of the (now long-defunct) Penlan school wasn't entirely based on social prejudice! I believe the site is used as a Welsh-language school now, one of a growing number as the children of those compelled to learn Welsh to 16 feed through the system. |
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Post by eor on Nov 25, 2022 3:06:05 GMT
Blimey, I really thought you meant that at first (although pjw1961 's subsequent post suggests that is not the case). I'd hate to play poker against you! Mind you, I'd hate to play poker against anyone, as I'm rubbish at card games (except rummy). I was playing my joker, isa. As for card games, I never really got much beyond Snap. Never had a poker face and the odd time I played three card brag I was either very unlucky or, more likely, bloody useless. - this is getting spooky. My aforementioned grandmother was also notoriously bad at Brag - with such a small hand she'd never get involved unless she was confident she was onto a winner, at which point she'd bet and be invariably dismayed when everyone else immediately folded. |
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Post by Danny on Nov 25, 2022 6:44:31 GMT
Ukraine calling for replacement power transformers....
Maybe we need to be packing pylons to send them too. Portable generators, the bigger the better. This is a re-run of the start of the war where we didnt sent weapons in case the russians won in a week and captured them all. Even if it takes a year to get electrical stuff manufactured, Ukraine is going to need it.
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Post by Danny on Nov 25, 2022 7:12:37 GMT
In the post-war period, inflation was often an issue, because of the policy of full employment. You are more likely to get inflation as you near full employment. This was turbocharged in the Seventies with inflation due to the oil crisis. One way to try and bring inflation down is by limiting wage increases which is what they did with an incomes policy. Going all the way back to ww2 is a bit beyond my memory, but presumably the post war period was rather like the post covid period in that there must have been massive shortages of goods and disruption of traditional trade patterns. So inflation would have been caused by real shortages of essential materials and indeed finished goods. I seem to recall UK rationing was extended not reduced, and there were decisions like deliberately diverting grain intended for the UK to India because of famines. Right now shortages of labour may be contributing to inflation, but most of it is because of demand for essential items. Post war there was also a massive surplus of labour so the entire female workforce was sent back to the kitchen. If there is a shortage of labour, then it makes a lot of sense to choose to get rid of poorly paying jobs and keep the well paying jobs, for everyone. The argument I see for imported cheap labour is that it allows a nation to do extra producing which would not be possible without that labour. We get the profits to share, the imported workers get bad wages by our standards but good by theirs. The disadvantage obviously is an ever expanding population, so its a question whether you want that or not. If you dont, then we have to live without cheap labour. The best you could say about government is it has always been two faced on immigration. It tells its supporters it doesnt like it, but has policies which require eternal growth and much of it can only be created by immigration. Ponzi scheme government. If you decide to scrap the bad jobs and just keep the good ones, then there has to be a period of adjustment within industry where wages rise sharply at the low end and those industries close or invest in mechanisation. That process has to take place, and intervening to keep down wages must be harmful to the economy because it is preventing it adapting. The NHS needs its labour costs to rise before it will adopt practices cutting out labour.
Obviously, if you have a policy of closing some industry, then national income will fall, and government has to explain that to the population. See them doing that now, do we?
Its said the Uk has a poor investment record. How much of that has been caused by government deliberately meeting demand for cheap labour? Would a more realistic Uk minimum wage have boosted industrial investment? Industry will never invest in machinery if people are cheaper! yeah...some con MPs seem to be doing the now tried and tested trick of usurping the role and indirectly voters attracted to the opposition by demanding changes to planning laws to make it easier to build wind turbines onshore in the UK.
Its a scandal that con deliberately created the energy crisis currently in the Uk by banning construction of wind turbines which would have been creating very cheap electricity for us right now.
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Post by moby on Nov 25, 2022 7:33:39 GMT
Not really. The German players just found a way to protest without being booked. The Welsh FA and Govmt fully supports the 🌈 protests. Laura McAllister totally backs the Welsh FA and Welsh Govmt on their stance. FIFA had warned both English an Welsh FAs players would be booked for wearing 🌈 armbands. The FA's were just expecting fines not on field sanctions as well. On field sanctions would have meant both the English and Welsh teams starting games with players on yellow cards. No FA would expect that of their team. So why didn't the English and Welsh teams do what the Germans did? And will Mark Drakeford and UK Ministers be wearing the One Love armband in the stadium as the Getman Minister did? |
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Post by somerjohn on Nov 25, 2022 7:38:32 GMT
Birdseye: "In the UK, Scotland has roughly 1 in every 10 MPs at Westminster. If Scotland were independant and joined the EU then it would have just 4 Euro MPs out of the 626 that there are."
I'm often surprised by the eagerness of people to expose their lack of basic knowledge on topics they are keen to take assertive positions on.
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1. The number of MEPs is 705, not 626. It was 751 before the UK withdrew.
2. While the number per country is based on population, the distribution is weighted to favour small nations. Thus even Malta (pop 464,000) has 6 MEPs; two more than you suggest Scotland would get.
3. Scotland's population lies between Ireland (13 MEPs) and Denmark (14 MEPs) so Scotland would get 13 or 14, depending on demographics in the interim.
4. New members will be allocated seats from a pool of 46 held in reserve following UK withdrawal.
The distribution of seats in the European Parliament is specifically designed to protect the interests of small nations.
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Post by alec on Nov 25, 2022 7:44:26 GMT
Times reporting that ministers are thinking about banning foreign students from UK universities in order to make the immigration figure look good.
That's one of the most stupid ideas possible to imaging, but let's see how that works;
1) Find an institution that is successful on a global scale, with a significantly dominant position in the market place and which earns the country billions in export revenues.
2) Identify what it is that makes them so successful.
3) Stop them doing it.
4) Job done!
An alternative approach might be;
1) Accept that students are not the same as economic migrants and so remove them from the immigration figures unless they stay of after their education.
2) Er, that's it.
We really are governed by a bunch of half wits.
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Post by steve on Nov 25, 2022 7:49:30 GMT
hireton"And does it rule out a referendum for the UK to rejoin the EU or Single Market before 2034 or later?" Not at all in fact the reverse, pjw1961 rightly said that the circumstances of Brexit justify an earlier second referendum on Scottish secession I agree I think it's entirely justified. Similarly the catalogue of lies told by the leave campaign and the fact that the outcome from leaving doesn't remotely resemble what was promised before departure justifies an opportunity to reverse this decision. The difference being that while the Scottish referendum decision is a decision that should be addressed by the residence of Scotland that of a rejoin referendum to the European union isn't simply within the remit of the UK population. While we can demonstrate that the public now clearly regard the decision to leave as fundamentally flawed and can express the wish to rejoin we do require European union agreement to make it so. The same of course applies to a separate Scotland seeking membership. What the UK , including Scotland can do now, without the need of any referenda is to move to closer economic and social links akin to that of eea countries. We don't need external consents for this, we all benefit significantly and it clearly makes rejoining easier either as the UK as currently constituted or as a secessionist Scotland.
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Post by Mr Poppy on Nov 25, 2022 7:55:11 GMT
Mr Poppy - "The truth of the aviation industry's problems (for UK and everywhere else) is eluded to in their piece - the Covid pandemic." Of course blaming Brexit is attractive, it's out of their control - what airline boss in the world is going to stand up and say "you know what, yes, when COVID hit I did fire a whole load of skilled and loyal people too callously whilst protecting my profit margin and my share price, I just wrongly assumed I could rehire them as easily as I needed to and now I look a total fool"? Indeed, something outside of their control is very easy to blame and whilst Covid did present huge challenges for the airline industry then 'bad management' was a factor (although IMO an excusable factor given the airline bosses didn't know when the next lockdown restrictions was coming and had very little lead time to adjust) Small point but the aviation industry didn't 'fire a whole load of skilled and loyal people', they put most of the workforce on furlough. So its a bit more complex with some people finding other jobs during furlough, retiring, etc (ie some people were not coming back) and then the issue of trying to train 2yrs worth of new recruits but without the capacity to train them as fast as they needed them (ie new workers couldn't be added fast enough when demand for flights cranked up again post Covid restrictions being lifted). Plenty of industry research that folks are very welcome to look into. I note from the Ipsos veracity polling (posted by colin yesterday) that 'journalists' score just 29% for trust - do certain people ever stop to think that newspapers might have a bias and do their own research to discover the truth? |
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Post by hireton on Nov 25, 2022 8:03:02 GMT
I well remember UKPR1 back in 2014. Inearly lost the will to live 💤💤💤 According to Hireton, not actively campaigning for the law to be changed to bring about another referendum on Scottish independence means I’m a British Nationalist. It isn’t a priority for me. I’m more concerned about women’s rights Respect my sex. No. I was responding to steve who (along with others) said that he agrees there should be a second referendum. I asked him whether he intended to do anything about his view such as trying to change his party's policy on that or writing to his MP. |
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Post by Mr Poppy on Nov 25, 2022 8:04:46 GMT
Foreign students face ban from UK universitiesMinisters explore plans for admissions to top institutions only in attempt to cut immigration All foreign students will also have new restrictions on bringing family members with them after the number of dependants almost tripled in a year.
The prime minister said that “all options” were on the table after it emerged that total immigration had reached an estimated 1.1 million in the year to June. About 560,000 people emigrated, leaving net migration at a record 504,000, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
One of the ideas being considered is barring foreign students unless they have a place at an elite university. The universities that take the most foreign students at present include Manchester, Edinburgh, Leeds, Sheffield, University College London, King’s College London and Imperial.
A crackdown on low-quality degrees was promised by Nadhim Zahawi when he was education secretary. His measures, recently introduced by the Office for Students, will penalise universities with high drop-out rates and low graduate earnings.
Times Rats in the sack (part1) As mentioned y'day (Immigration thread) then I'm very concerned about a 'knee-jerk' reaction to y'days data. IIRC then Zahawi's comments were not specifically aimed at foreign students (and IMO he made a valid point). However, I'm worried that in attempt to see overall numbers drop Rishi adopts stupid policies. IMO Rishi+CON HMG should explain the numbers had a lot of 'one-off' factors and ONS should be asked to present the data more clearly (eg with student numbers being stated separately below the (head)line) We'll now see Rishi+H.Sec fight HMT+Education with the risk of bad decisions being made  |
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Post by lululemonmustdobetter on Nov 25, 2022 8:10:46 GMT
My feeling is that Britain as an idea had long been declining and brexit was the death knell. . One of the reasons I voted for remain was a sincere belief that Brexit would lead to the break up of the UK. However, that does not mean that post Brexit one should not seek to prevent something occurring that has the potential to do even more economic/social damage than Brexit. We should not repeat the error.
On the EU, one of the SNP's current arguments in favour of indy is re-joining the EU. That would require the end of a single market on mainland Britain - the economic disruption that would cause would be immense - and there is no guarantee the EU would be favourable to Scotland joining, the Spanish in particular are likely to bloc it because of Catalonia.
For me one of the lessons of Brexit is that simple majority ref can be fundamentally flawed, risk one generation's prejudices condemning future generations to relative penury and our easily manipulated by powerful interests with an agenda that is not necessarily in the interests of the society impacted (such as Murdoch).
I sincerely believe we (as in the people of the UK) were better of within the EU, I also sincerely believe we are better of within the UK. I respect the views of those who are seeking Scottish indy (I have many friends who are) and do think in all probability it will happen in my lifetime and through democratic means. That does not mean I should accept SNP arguments concerning holding a ref now, nor that I should stay silent on an issue that I strongly believe will impact on the fate of my children. |
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Mr Poppy
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Post by Mr Poppy on Nov 25, 2022 8:12:30 GMT
Boris Johnson and Liz Truss have joined a backbench rebellion over energy policy in their first major parliamentary interventions since leaving No 10. “The two former prime ministers have signed an amendment to the government’s Levelling Up and Regeneration Bill in an effort to end a ban on new onshore wind farms.
While he was in office Johnson supported the ban, which has been in place since 2015, but he will now try to overturn it.
The amendment is being tabled by Simon Clarke, who served as levelling up secretary under Truss.
It is the latest in a string of challenges to Rishi Sunak’s authority from within his own party.” Rats in the sack (part2) Rishi is wrong about onshore wind farms and I'm sure there would be an overwhelming majority in HoC would back ending the 'ban' on new onshore wind farms. He was however right to maintain the 'ban' on fracking The broader issue of return of 'Rats in sack' is that some CON MPs/factions are trying to score petty vendettas whereas some are trying to ensure HoC pass legislation that is in the best interests of our country. For partisan reasons then PMs do not seek votes across the aisle but the result is either 'dither+delay' or 'bad policy'. GE'24 can't come soon enough. The 'Rats in the sack' might agree on a few things and Rishi will have to focus on those. Everything else is likely to be kicked into the long grass and be easy pickings for Sir Keir+co to put into LAB manifesto GE'24 and over-turn/implement as soon as they take over. |
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