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Post by birdseye on Mar 9, 2022 9:00:06 GMT
And no, this isnt about current affairs but the quality of TV reporting. Why are we getting a continuous diet of essentailly the same thing - interviews by sympathetic female interviewers with distraught female refugees? Its like an agony aunt column but more to the point it doesnt tell you anything new after the first half dozen. Thats not to be hard hearted - clearly there are a lot of suffering people. But we know that having been told it countless times. So whats new. Where are the embedded reporters or has H&S triumphed.
This isnt news. Its olds.
Please keep any comments away from the events and focussed on the BBC reporting quality
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Post by lens on Mar 13, 2022 0:05:25 GMT
Interesting to hear you say that, because it's exactly what I'd been feeling myself. And I'm afraid that whilst in the past I would always look first to the BBC for news, I'm increasingly finding ITN to be far better, and that's certainly true about the Ukraine coverage.
I'm also increasingly finding I'm getting more news about what is really going on from newspapers than TV, possibly due to the latter having to devote their resources to filling screens with endless lives, rather than actually getting out and about to find out what's really going on. I'm reminded of the comments about "the view from a shell hole doesn't necessarily tell much about the battle" - here substitute live position for shellhole. The BBC has been particularly bad at lack of analysis of footage it's been getting from such as mobile phone etc - misidentifying the nationality of destroyed vehicles and aircraft in at least two cases to my knowledge. What's happened to all the ex-generals that were brought out to comment on overall strategy in previous conflicts? I agree with you - it's important to show the stories of people who have had to flee and their suffering, but such shouldn't be the only coverage.
Is it possible we've got used to fairly extensive briefings from allied commands in such as the Gulf wars, and now it's just a case of no equivalent coming from Ukraine or Russia?
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Post by birdseye on Mar 14, 2022 21:19:09 GMT
Your last sentence may well be a major part of the issue with the Russians not having embedded western journalists and the Ukranians fighting what is almost a guerilla war.
As usual, The BBC have also changed the English language name of the capital from Kiev to Keef. Will they next name Paris as Paree? But they havent changed Moscow to Moskva - I wonder why.
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Post by pjw1961 on Mar 14, 2022 22:53:48 GMT
Why the obsession with the BBC out of many TV stations?
And why the obsession with keeping the Russian pronunciation of Ukrainian place names?
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Post by lens on Mar 17, 2022 23:31:26 GMT
Why the obsession with the BBC out of many TV stations? I suppose in the UK, the BBC isn't just "a news outlet", but a huge collection. From Breakfast News in the morning, a 24 hour news channel, bulletins during the day, Newsnight...... and that's before even thinking about radio...... And it's probably a mistake to clump them all together, especially in coverage regarding the Ukraine situation. Newsnight seems to be doing well at reporting "the bigger picture", but I'm afraid even the main BBCTV bulletins seem to have fallen into the "reporting from a shellhole" trap. I remember the reporting of the last Gulf war, and BBC News (IMO) did a pretty good job of not just on the ground reports, but trying to give military analysis as well as broader analysis. Unfortunately, (Newsnight excepted) they don't seem to be able to do "big picture" in the same way nowadays - a sign the cutbacks are having an effect? Is it just down to present circumstance? (Not getting formal situation reports from either military side.) That doesn't help - but (again, IMO) for the main TV bulletins the BBC seemed superior during the last Gulf War, now I find the opposite. A friend was saying how he's now finding Sky better than the BBC News channel. All anecdotal, yes, but birdseye's original post chimes with my thoughts and those of a few other people I know. And why the obsession with keeping the Russian pronunciation of Ukrainian place names? Can't find the reference, but I seem to remember hearing something like "key-ev" was a Soviet version, "keeve" was seen as the independent name. So not just fashion - a case of a word making a political statement. Maybe think "Derry" or "Londonderry"? |
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