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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 13:43:55 GMT
We've got super Pat Vieira..!
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Post by leftieliberal on Mar 24, 2022 18:47:11 GMT
England 114-8 (having been 90-8). I knew that England's batting in the last two tests was too good to be true. And all this happened before tea on Day 1.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2022 21:46:53 GMT
Italy out of World Cup.
England amazingly got over 200 in cricket
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Mar 24, 2022 22:14:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2022 22:28:42 GMT
Last minute goal by North Macedonia. Tee hee |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Mar 24, 2022 22:54:28 GMT
Last minute goal by North Macedonia. Tee hee ah, so it won’t be coming to Rome then? youtu.be/bFsmElePrOc |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Mar 24, 2022 22:55:27 GMT
England 114-8 (having been 90-8). I knew that England's batting in the last two tests was too good to be true. And all this happened before tea on Day 1. i turned the radio off at 77-7. Didn’t realise we’d got past 200 till I saw Nick’s post. |
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Post by leftieliberal on Mar 25, 2022 14:12:26 GMT
England 114-8 (having been 90-8). I knew that England's batting in the last two tests was too good to be true. And all this happened before tea on Day 1. i turned the radio off at 77-7. Didn’t realise we’d got past 200 till I saw Nick’s post. When I used to play cricket socially and our match finished early, we used to play a "beer match". The rules were that the batting order was reversed and every outfielder had to bowl one over (so a 10-over game). I think that judging by the last-wicket partnership, that England might benefit by playing a Test under "beer match" rules.  |
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Post by leftieliberal on Mar 27, 2022 19:12:36 GMT
With batting collapses in both innings England outdid themselves. Should I start a poll on who should be the next England captain? My preference is for Ben Stokes; Root has been the worst England captain since I have been following cricket (over 60 years).
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Post by pjw1961 on Mar 28, 2022 18:06:37 GMT
With batting collapses in both innings England outdid themselves. Should I start a poll on who should be the next England captain? My preference is for Ben Stokes; Root has been the worst England captain since I have been following cricket (over 60 years). I came here to suggest the same idea for a poll. I suppose potential candidates (not all realistic) are: Root, Stokes, Broad, Bairstow, Eoin Morgan on the back of white ball, or someone from the county circuit - James Vince, Tom Abell? I would go for a couple of years of Broad, but Bairstow could be an interesting choice. Stokes, I think, has enough to do already. I suspect Root will plod on, but a weak side needs a much better captain in order to compete. |
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Post by mercian on Mar 28, 2022 23:17:36 GMT
I agree with those who think that Root is a poor captain. Nice chap, means well, but little tactical acumen. Also Stokes already does too much and previous all-rounder captains (Botham, Flintoff) have not done well, probably because of the tremendous workload. The best England captains that I can remember are Close, Illingworth, Brearley and Vaughan. Of those, only Vaughan would have been a first choice in the team as a player. So I agree with pjw1961 that we need to look outside the current squad. Morgan would be a short-term possibility, with a proven international track record, but also why not ask around the counties to see who is considered the best First Class county captain? I don't follow it closely enough to name candidates, but anyone captaining a county side should be able to make some sort of contribution as a player as well as being captain. He couldn't do much worse than the current batch anyway! Clearly it couldn't possibly be Bairstow since he gives every appearance of being working class.  |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Mar 29, 2022 10:18:26 GMT
i turned the radio off at 77-7. Didn’t realise we’d got past 200 till I saw Nick’s post. When I used to play cricket socially and our match finished early, we used to play a "beer match". The rules were that the batting order was reversed and every outfielder had to bowl one over (so a 10-over game). I think that judging by the last-wicket partnership, that England might benefit by playing a Test under "beer match" rules.  it might indeed benefit the team leftie, however on reflection 10 overs might be asking a bit much of our team at the moment! |
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Post by c-a-r-f-r-e-w on Mar 29, 2022 12:27:10 GMT
Article in the Telegraph mulling over which of Anderson or Broad should return to the Test team.
“But, rather than Broad and Anderson in tandem, it seems likelier that the new coach will prefer to field only one of them – thereby trying to best balance the twin demands of winning now with developing a bowling attack for the future, empowering Mahmood and Robinson. Broad, as he likes to stress, is four years younger than Anderson. And yet increasingly it is possible to think that Anderson, now in his 40th year, will endure for longer.
Since the start of 2021, Anderson has taken 40 wickets at 23 apiece in his 13 Tests; Broad has taken 23 at an average of 31 in nine.”
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Post by pjw1961 on Mar 29, 2022 14:39:56 GMT
Clearly it couldn't possibly be Bairstow since he gives every appearance of being working class.  I know you're only joking, but just to note that Bairstow was educated at St Peter's School, York "a co-educational independent boarding and day school (also referred to as a public school), in the English City of York, with extensive grounds on the banks of the River Ouse. Founded by St Paulinus of York in AD 627, it is the third oldest school in the world. It is part of the York Boarding Schools Group. The school accepts pupils aged two to eighteen." So not really a horny handed son of toil, although, as I guess most will be aware, his childhood was touched by tragedy. |
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Post by mercian on Mar 29, 2022 14:55:23 GMT
I apologise to Mr (as I must now call him) Bairstow. I don't think he has much, if any captaincy experience though and that's essential.
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Post by pjw1961 on Mar 29, 2022 15:18:53 GMT
I apologise to Mr (as I must now call him) Bairstow. I don't think he has much, if any captaincy experience though and that's essential. He captained Welsh Fire in the hundred (for what that's worth). My view that he might make an interesting captain is based more on my perception of character. Joe Root is a charming man, but his 'little boy lost' demeanor in the field is not helpful, although not as bad as his tactical ineptitude. Bairstow seems to be a bit more traditionally 'Yorkshire' in outlook. One caveat - if Bairstow captains then he must not keep wicket as well. |
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Post by leftieliberal on Mar 30, 2022 20:08:18 GMT
I think that the whole point of requiring trans-women to get their testerone below 5 nmol/l for 12 months is fundamentally wrong. it's like performance-enhancing doping but in reverse. As your articles and this one in New Statesman show, the whole approach is flawed. Either we go down the Paralympic route and have multiple categories not just two, or we just simply say that trans-women compete with the men and trans-men with the women, but get separate changing facilites that respect their genders. Nobody should have to take drugs to be able to compete. www.newstatesman.com/comment/2022/03/theres-got-to-be-a-better-way-to-include-transgender-women-in-sportOf course there is still the problem of people who are intersex (like Caster Semenya), what is usually referred to as DSD, but these are rare conditions. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 20:19:56 GMT
I think that the whole point of requiring trans-women to get their testerone below 5 nmol/l for 12 months is fundamentally wrong. it's like performance-enhancing doping but in reverse. As your articles and this one in New Statesman show, the whole approach is flawed. Either we go down the Paralympic route and have multiple categories not just two, or we just simply say that trans-women compete with the men and trans-men with the women, but get separate changing facilites that respect their genders. Nobody should have to take drugs to be able to compete. www.newstatesman.com/comment/2022/03/theres-got-to-be-a-better-way-to-include-transgender-women-in-sportOf course there is still the problem of people who are intersex (like Caster Semenya), what is usually referred to as DSD, but these are rare conditions. UCI has decreed Bridges cannot compete with women in the Omnium on saturday.. The testosterone test is totally inadequate to produce a fair competition. |
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Post by neilj on Apr 1, 2022 17:28:10 GMT
Draw for the World Cup
Group B: England, Iran, USA, and one of the following-Scotland/Wales/Ukraine
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2022 8:22:11 GMT
"Silence was also imposed on British elite female cyclists, who in the national omnium championships tomorrow were due to race the trans woman Emily Bridges, 21, a junior champion who until just weeks ago raced as a man. British Cycling demands that members “must accept all participants in the gender they present” or face sanctions. The panel creating these rules includes the trans woman Philippa York, who in The Times accused Thomas’s female teammates of lying about their changing room distress.
No cyclist, not even Dame Laura Kenny, our greatest woman Olympian, dared speak out. Only when team rage quietly boiled into a threatened boycott did UCI, cycling’s international governing body, intervene. Bridges was dropped on a technicality from the omnium yet may still race as a woman at the Commonwealth Games. British Cycling’s statement regretted Bridges’s disappointment, noted the imperative of trans inclusion, but said not a word about female justice.
Thomas and Bridges had merely followed the rules: reduce your testosterone below 5nmol/L (over twice the female top limit) for a year or so and you’re a woman. This not only fails to diminish the myriad advantages bestowed by male puberty, from greater lung capacity to narrower hips which make for more powerful pedalling, it is also a grotesque misogynist slur.
Women are not just hobbled men, smaller men, lesser men, men who have popped pills. We are not helpmeets for men, created from Adam’s rib. Women are our own selves. Our bodies are extraordinary: with their monthly cycles, pelvises tilted to bear children, lactating breasts. I once interviewed Paula Radcliffe and, chatting to her husband/coach beforehand, asked how her last race went: “Not bad, given it was her period,” he said frankly. (No male can “identity” into that.)
It is a joy to watch Serena or Laura or Paula prove what the female body, pushed to its limits, can do. How can these bodies be expected to compete fairly against those designed by nature to hunt or fight?
Both the UCI and FINA, the international water sports body, hear the rumble of female rage and are now suggesting that maybe a woman is not just a chemically impaired male. Elite sportswomen are starting to speak up: the threatened cycling boycott will echo across the world."
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"Women will never accept sports being rigged"
"Transgender cyclist Emily Bridges says she has been "harassed and demonised" after being told she cannot compete in the National Omnium Championships."
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Post by mercian on Apr 3, 2022 20:30:33 GMT
It would be an interesting exercise to find out what the proportion of trans women athletes is compared to the proportion of trans women in the general population. If it is higher that might suggest that some male athletes are becoming trans just to be more successful at sport.
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Post by pjw1961 on Apr 14, 2022 21:26:50 GMT
Congrats to West Ham for a remarkable 0-3 win at Lyon.
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Post by mercian on Apr 28, 2022 12:03:42 GMT
alecReplying to your post about England cricket captaincy on this thread. I agree that Stokes seems a dubious choice. He's a great player, but previous great all-rounders (Flintoff, Botham) have not been successful captains. I think the main danger is that he will try to do it all himself. I heard Agnew this morning on the radio saying that because he is now a bit injury-prone the choice of vice-captain will be important. There was a time when the usual practice for England was to pick the best county captain and then build the team around him, even if he wasn't necessarily first choice as a player. Apart from Brearley, Illingworth and Close were good examples of this. I don't follow the county scene closely enough to know who the best captain is, though Agnew suggested Vince who apparently captains Hampshire well. He's had a couple of goes at Test cricket without quite establishing his place, but he's not far off.
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Post by pjw1961 on Apr 28, 2022 14:31:50 GMT
Just to agree with alec and mercian, I'm not happy about the Stokes appointment, although I expected it. Batting, bowling, fielding slip and captaining - it too much for one player.
I will say though that the Australians have always had a different view on this. They pick their best eleven and then select the captain from that group, and it seems to have worked pretty well for them (Bradman, Benaud, Simpson, Ian Chappell, Border, Mark Taylor, Waugh, Ponting, to name just a few). However Warne should definitely have been allowed a go.
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Post by alec on Apr 28, 2022 15:29:38 GMT
pjw1961 - I agree about Australia, but the difference is that their captains were good at captaincy. Apart from Ponting wanting to bowl first at Edgbaston, 2005.
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Post by birdseye on Apr 28, 2022 19:42:25 GMT
With batting collapses in both innings England outdid themselves. Should I start a poll on who should be the next England captain? My preference is for Ben Stokes; Root has been the worst England captain since I have been following cricket (over 60 years). Why would the captain be responsible for the rest of the team being unable to bat? |
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Post by mercian on Apr 28, 2022 22:19:53 GMT
birdseye He's not of course, but he is responsible for bowling changes, field placings, timing of declarations and so on. Root was poor at all that. leftieliberalRoot wasn't good, but there have been others who were arguably worse - Flintoff, Botham and Emburey for instance.
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Post by leftieliberal on Apr 29, 2022 10:41:06 GMT
birdseye He's not of course, but he is responsible for bowling changes, field placings, timing of declarations and so on. Root was poor at all that. leftieliberal Root wasn't good, but there have been others who were arguably worse - Flintoff, Botham and Emburey for instance. Yes, Root is a world-class batter, but that doesn't make him even an adequate captain. Some of the best captains England have had, have been very average in their specialism: Mike Brearley and Ray Illingworth, for example. I think that Stokes will be a better captain. |
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Post by pjw1961 on Apr 29, 2022 21:13:36 GMT
birdseye He's not of course, but he is responsible for bowling changes, field placings, timing of declarations and so on. Root was poor at all that. leftieliberal Root wasn't good, but there have been others who were arguably worse - Flintoff, Botham and Emburey for instance. Yes, Root is a world-class batter, but that doesn't make him even an adequate captain. Some of the best captains England have had, have been very average in their specialism: Mike Brearley and Ray Illingworth, for example. I think that Stokes will be a better captain. Little harsh on Illingworth; 122 wickets at 31.20, plus 1,836 runs at 23.24 and 45 catches in 61 tests is a decent record. I believe that as captain he batted better but bowled worse than his overall record. |
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